listing arrest on the DS230

[Queeny 0]

Hi VJ family,

let me start by saying how grateful I am to have this site to aid in the visa journey. I have a question/concern that maybe you can help me with. My hubby was arrested back in Dec 08 in Senegal. According to him he bought some stolen parts from someone. He did not know the merchandise was stolen. He was arrested along with the person he bought the merchandise from. He was put in jail for about 10 days. According to him the Court said he should not have bought the merchandise. Also he said that the arrest is not showing on his police certificate becasue it was not a formal arrest/conviction. I'm concerned that when he is fingerprinted at his interview that this will show up. So I guess my question is

1. should this be listed on the DS230

2. what documents would he need if this does not show up on his police cert

thanks for your help

[loukhouss 0]

Hi VJ family,

let me start by saying how grateful I am to have this site to aid in the visa journey. I have a question/concern that maybe you can help me with. My hubby was arrested back in Dec 08 in Senegal. According to him he bought some stolen parts from someone. He did not know the merchandise was stolen. He was arrested along with the person he bought the merchandise from. He was put in jail for about 10 days. According to him the Court said he should not have bought the merchandise. Also he said that the arrest is not showing on his police certificate becasue it was not a formal arrest/conviction. I'm concerned that when he is fingerprinted at his interview that this will show up. So I guess my question is

1. should this be listed on the DS230

2. what documents would he need if this does not show up on his police cert

thanks for your help

Senegal is not like the USA, this wil not show from anywhere, there is no communication between the embassy and the court or recird system. do not put that on the DS230, they won't know, there is no way they can.

[loukhouss 0]

Senegal is not like the USA, this will not show from anywhere, there is no communication between the embassy and the court or record system. Do not put that on the DS230, they won't know, there is no way they can.. in the US USCIS can pull and find your record at any date and time, In africa the embassy sees only what you give them, So do not give them a reason to deny your petition.

[Queeny 0]

Senegal is not like the USA, this will not show from anywhere, there is no communication between the embassy and the court or record system. Do not put that on the DS230, they won't know, there is no way they can.. in the US USCIS can pull and find your record at any date and time, In africa the embassy sees only what you give them, So do not give them a reason to deny your petition.

thank you so much for this info. My hubby also said it would not show, but I wanted to make sure just in case when the embassy run his fingerprints for the visa it would show he was arrested. Sounds like you are familiar with Senegal?

[loukhouss 0]

I was Born and raised in senegal. The fingerprints they take at the embassy will only pull prior records the applicant had with the embassy, for example prior visas application and if any info recorded from those apps. Your husband is right, it can't and won't show, I am 100000% positive.

Hope this helps.

[WhidbeyGirl 1]

Lying on a government form is illegal. No one here should be recommending it I believe it is against TOS.

[Queeny 0]

I was Born and raised in senegal. The fingerprints they take at the embassy will only pull prior records the applicant had with the embassy, for example prior visas application and if any info recorded from those apps. Your husband is right, it can't and won't show, I am 100000% positive.

Hope this helps.

yes, this is very helpful info and thanks again. We will act accordingly - that is legally. I haven't seen anyone on this site from Senegal and I'm curious to know what advice you may have for my husbby adjusting to life in the US? you can send the info via my contact if needed. thanks again for your help.

[Ban Hammer 13,395]

Lying on a government form is illegal. No one here should be recommending it I believe it is against TOS.

correct!

By way of example, and not as a limitation, you agree that when using the Service, you will not:

• Condone or instruct, either directly or indirectly, others on how to commit fraudulent or illegal immigration activities in any way, shape, manner or method.

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for the op - you may be setting yourself up for a denial if you omit that information.

[loukhouss 0]

Lying on a government form is illegal. No one here should be recommending it I believe it is against TOS.

I am not advising anyone to lie. Every country has it's realities and I just explained the Senegalese system compared to the US. I said what is true and what I would do.

Good luck!!!!

[Ban Hammer 13,395]

Lying on a government form is illegal. No one here should be recommending it I believe it is against TOS.

I am not advising anyone to lie. Every country has it's realities and I just explained the Senegalese system compared to the US. I said what is true and what I would do.

Good luck!!!!

the form does not allow any wiggle room, further interpretation, or a wild guess by anyone filling out the form.

you suggested in your post

Senegal is not like the USA, this wil not show from anywhere, there is no communication between the embassy and the court or recird system. do not put that on the DS230, they won't know, there is no way they can.

"Have you ever been charged, arrested or convicted of any offense or crime?"

your own bolded words advocate the op commit a lie by omission. please cease with this type of advice.

[loukhouss 0]

Lying on a government form is illegal. No one here should be recommending it I believe it is against TOS.

I am not advising anyone to lie. Every country has it's realities and I just explained the Senegalese system compared to the US. I said what is true and what I would do.

Good luck!!!!

the form does not allow any wiggle room, further interpretation, or a wild guess by anyone filling out the form.

you suggested in your post

Senegal is not like the USA, this wil not show from anywhere, there is no communication between the embassy and the court or recird system. do not put that on the DS230, they won't know, there is no way they can.

"Have you ever been charged, arrested or convicted of any offense or crime?"

your own bolded words advocate the op commit a lie by omission. please cease with this type of advice.

This is not about me or you referring to my opinion as "Bolded words", I do not advocate lies, nor do I complete your forms. I said what I would do. just say what you think you would do and stop being hypocritical. I know enough about Senegal to provide a clear answer to WHAT I WOULD DO for myself or for my relative in this situation.

Just answer "Quenny" question. What would you do? just answer the question and do not refer to me as I already gave my answer. help us out, answer the question.

Thanks for your kindness. Peace & Love.

[loukhouss 0]

In addition,

I Do not support any lies, misrepresentation or transformation of the truth.

I am just a bricklayer, I have no knowledge about immigration laws or procedures.

[Ban Hammer 13,395]

Lying on a government form is illegal. No one here should be recommending it I believe it is against TOS.

I am not advising anyone to lie. Every country has it's realities and I just explained the Senegalese system compared to the US. I said what is true and what I would do.

Good luck!!!!

the form does not allow any wiggle room, further interpretation, or a wild guess by anyone filling out the form.

you suggested in your post

Senegal is not like the USA, this wil not show from anywhere, there is no communication between the embassy and the court or recird system. do not put that on the DS230, they won't know, there is no way they can.

"Have you ever been charged, arrested or convicted of any offense or crime?"

your own bolded words advocate the op commit a lie by omission. please cease with this type of advice.

This is not about me or you referring to my opinion as "Bolded words", I do not advocate lies, nor do I complete your forms. I said what I would do. just say what you think you would do and stop being hypocritical. I know enough about Senegal to provide a clear answer to WHAT I WOULD DO for myself or for my relative in this situation.

Just answer "Quenny" question. What would you do? just answer the question and do not refer to me as I already gave my answer. help us out, answer the question.

Thanks for your kindness. Peace & Love.

you did not state what you would do in your reply which i quoted, you advised the op to leave that information off of the form, which is incorrect advice and as i pointed out (post #8) that advising someone as you did is a potential terms of service (tos) violation. please read the tos at vj terms of service

you claim to have no knowledge of immigration laws or procedures. that should cause a prudent person to refrain from offering advice.

[William33 110]

A note from VJ Moderation:

Do not advocate or suggest methods of circumvention to the immigration policies of the United States, as this is not only against the law; But a violation of the VJ Terms of Service (TOS).

Further violations will result in account action against the offender.

Regards,

VJ Moderation.

[William33 110]

You may be surprised, as the indices of several US Government organizations are compiled for the record. Local police are most assuredly contacted.

Senegal is not like the USA, this will not show from anywhere, there is no communication between the embassy and the court or record system. Do not put that on the DS230, they won't know, there is no way they can.. in the US USCIS can pull and find your record at any date and time, In africa the embassy sees only what you give them, So do not give them a reason to deny your petition.