Rep. Jenkins To Working Mother Unable To Afford Insurance: "Go Be A Grown Up"

[alienlovechild 75]

If she qualified, she could get housing assistance (Sec 8). She may also qualify for food stamps, as well as childcare assistance. However, she said she wasn't looking for a hand out....just affordable health insurance.

Subsidized healthcare is a subsidy which is a partial handout but still a handout.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

If she qualified, she could get housing assistance (Sec 8). She may also qualify for food stamps, as well as childcare assistance. However, she said she wasn't looking for a hand out....just affordable health insurance.

Subsidized healthcare is a subsidy which is a partial handout but still a handout.

There you go. Lots of subsidies out there that most people don't realize. That's how things work in this country...except for healthcare for those under 65.

[natty bumppo 297]

If any of you need help calculating those costs for somebody making minimum wage, just let me know. I'd like to see some of you try to make that work, especially the ones who have small children.

Don't forget to buy her a house, a car, insurance, college tuition, child daycare, retirement funds, clothes . .. that stuff isn't cheap ya know. Add those up on a minimum wage.

I'm a compassionate guy so I'm asking you to send her the money.

If she qualified, she could get housing assistance (Sec 8). She may also qualify for food stamps, as well as childcare assistance. However, she said she wasn't looking for a hand out....just affordable free health insurance.

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what else can she afford?

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

If any of you need help calculating those costs for somebody making minimum wage, just let me know. I'd like to see some of you try to make that work, especially the ones who have small children.

Don't forget to buy her a house, a car, insurance, college tuition, child daycare, retirement funds, clothes . .. that stuff isn't cheap ya know. Add those up on a minimum wage.

I'm a compassionate guy so I'm asking you to send her the money.

If she qualified, she could get housing assistance (Sec 8). She may also qualify for food stamps, as well as childcare assistance. However, she said she wasn't looking for a hand out....just affordable free health insurance.

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what else can she afford?

Must be a bandwidth problem!

[Danno 1,228]

a full-time waitress with two young kids. Smith's employer doesn't provide insurance, and she can't afford private coverage. Smith's not looking for a handout; she's looking for an affordable choice.

"I want an option that I can pay for," Smith told her representative. "I work. I pay my bills. I'm not a burden on the state. I pay my taxes. So why can't I get an affordable option? Why are you against that?"

How can one take this example serious when the poor lady does not even have the facts about insurance or even her life understood.

She says.."She's not looking for a hand-out, just an Option she can afford"

*That means someone will be picking up the tab for the remainder (it's called a hand-out) and with her supporting two kids (who may or may not have a father around), I doubt she is expecting or able to "contribute" all that much. I wonder if she even went to her family for help first or was the townhall meeting Plan A.

She tells us she also "pays taxes".

*Is she talking about sales tax?

Nearly half the people DONT PAY ANY FEDERAL TAXES...

and I am betting with two kids she is in fact getting more money back on April 15th than she ever paid in (via -earned income tax rebate).

So this is the part of this whole thing that is so sad, this woman is asking for a hand-out and does not even know it.

And so it is with all of us, we want cheap insurance and we want to imagine that us paying less doesn't mean someone is paying for it.

Soon we will actually be at the tipping point where enough people will... without shame or hesitation, expect others to carry their load in life, soon after ..."self-Government" will no longer be possible because there will be no end to the "expectation level" and no consideration to the "contribution level."

As long as it's not you asking for the handout, why don't you just shut up and mind your own business?

Whats the matter did I hit a nerve>?

and now you want me to shut-up.

PS; Taking other people's money... "is" their business.

[Danno 1,228]

If any of you need help calculating those costs for somebody making minimum wage, just let me know. I'd like to see some of you try to make that work, especially the ones who have small children.

Don't forget to buy her a house, a car, insurance, college tuition, child daycare, retirement funds, clothes . .. that stuff isn't cheap ya know. Add those up on a minimum wage.

I'm a compassionate guy so I'm asking you to send her the money.

If she qualified, she could get housing assistance (Sec 8). She may also qualify for food stamps, as well as childcare assistance. However, she said she wasn't looking for a hand out....just affordable health insurance.

And you just know she is getting free-lunch at school for the kids.

It's an automatic approval if you are on Food stamps anyway.

In fact I have the form right here in front of me..... in my area a family of 3 earning $33,874. qualifies.

family of 4 can earn over 40 grand and get other people to feed their kids at school.

You know talk about "double coverage". How is it someone on food stamps can also get free lunch at school?

If food stamps aren't enough to cover these kids lunches... what are they eating during the summer when school is out?

A year or so ago they started verifying some of the free lunch claims in Charlotte, they were finding 62% did not qualify.

Remember the Number of students getting free lunch triggers all kinds of additional funds to a school.

http://charlotte.rhinotimes.com/Articles-i...s_On_Audit.html

If any of you need help calculating those costs for somebody making minimum wage, just let me know. I'd like to see some of you try to make that work, especially the ones who have small children.

Don't forget to buy her a house, a car, insurance, college tuition, child daycare, retirement funds, clothes . .. that stuff isn't cheap ya know. Add those up on a minimum wage.

I'm a compassionate guy so I'm asking you to send her the money.

If she qualified, she could get housing assistance (Sec 8). She may also qualify for food stamps, as well as childcare assistance. However, she said she wasn't looking for a hand out....just affordable free health insurance.

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what else can she afford?

Bet you she has cable tv and one of those Sweet cell phones.

[rika60607 215]

what a horrible plan indeed!

one has to spend $150 + 12*$56 = $822 (add co-pays to this) and then be able to get $2000 back.

It's like you are paying 50% of the total of your insurance. How would you like paying $10K a year to insure your new $20K car?

ANYWAY: the problem (and the cost of) the current health insurance is largely due to (1) unreasonably high cost of medical services (2) inefficient and complex paperwork that needlessly raises the insurance cost (3) right of insurance companies to decline payments (many times you will find out that they chose not to pay the claim *after* the pre-approved service was rendered. What a mess.

Costs as of March 2009

Basic for the employee only costs less than $56 per month. For the employee plus 1 the cost is just over $117 per month, and for the employee plus family the cost is under $180 per month.

http://www.mcmontana.com/3059/1370/McCrew-...alth-Insurance/

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If any of you need help calculating those costs for somebody making minimum wage, just let me know. I'd like to see some of you try to make that work, especially the ones who have small children.

[Otto 83]

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Edited September 2, 2009 by Otto und Karin

[Heracles 417]

A read a case today where a lady was in a car accident and taken to a out of network hospital.

Her insurance refused to pay and she is now out of pocket $75K.

[Peikko 1,575]

Clearly if she had been a 'grown up' she would have ordered the ambulance to take her to the right hospital.

[Ban Hammer 14,668]

Clearly if she had been a 'grown up' she would have ordered the ambulance to take her to the right hospital.

nonsense, she coulda walked.