Woman drags kid through store.

[natty bumppo 297]

I'm a firm believer of corporal punishment. How about someone her own size put her on a leash and drag her on asphalt instead, like a piece of ###### too.

how about that someone be you?

[caybee 21]

Back in the day when I was a child, leashes were quite common . I remember the neighbour hooking her boy on a leash and attaching him to the clothes line while she was doing the gardening.

mine kept hooking my leash to passing cars.

My mom had one for us too. No seat belt or car seat laws then -- she'd attach it to something in the back seat and we'd crawl around back there. It was a black harness with a lead that was the same material seat belts were made of, not a fuzzy animal backpack thing like they have now, and she said it was controversial then too.

I don't have a problem with someone using one to give a kid a little freedom to roam but still protect them from running off and hurting themselves or breaking something, and if our son turns out to be naturally active, I think it would be kinder to him to give him some limited freedom to use his muscles and explore rather than strapping him into a stroller or gripping him by the hand. I would have a problem with a parent screaming at their kid while jerking back on the lead (unless the kid was inches away from harm). It all depends on how it's used. In this case, not knowing the details and just based on body language, it could be that the kid wanted to be dragged just like some kids like to be swung around by the arms or legs. I can remember being at an age where being dragged across a slick floor would have been fun And maybe the adult was tired and just gave in and dragged the kid, knowing it was what the kid wanted anyway. But the adult should have realized how it would look, especially on video with no sound or context. And the adult wasn't watching behind, so the kid could have been pulled into something and injured. Regardless of whether the kid liked it or not, the adult used bad judgment.

Edited August 13, 2009 by caybee

[Sandrila 1]

You know with cameras EVERYWHERE I am still shocked by the stupidity

of people who do things and get caught thru surveillance.

I have gotten very agitated and embarassed by my children in the past when we were out in public.

I can understand the feeling of "losing it" or needing to "nip it in the bud" but seeing that child dragged around

that way just isn't going to sit well with viewers.

Remember the lady that lost it when here girls were fighting in the back of their mini van and she dumped them off ??

It wasn't that long ago.

[_Simpson_ 250]

IMO as far as the leash goes I think there is situations where it might be justified but 9 out of 10 times I see a unruly kid that seems to have had very little discipline and the leash is just used to make the parents life easier, simply wrong. I have seen well behaved kids that don't need these leashes. I think it says a lot about there parenting and I personally would be embarrassed to use these on my kids.

[sara..... 371]

i have sisters and a brother that only have two years or in one case ten months between their ages all of them wore the thing that looked like a fanny pack with the leash for their own protection so that they could have freedom but also were under control of a parent when i have a child i also will use this, i saw a child dart out away from his parent in California some time ago and got hit by a car the child was dead before he even hit the ground, safety for a child should always be the first concern

i cant say that i agree with her dragging the child on the floor like that but could be was something they do at home and the child enjoys it dont seem that the child was in pain of upset by it, however the germs that are on peoples feet should really worry the parent, people go to markets around here with out bothering to change their boots after being in a barn so not the cleanest thing in the world.

just my opinion

sara

[_Simpson_ 250]

I dont want to make this personal but dont you think the leash says just a little bit about parenting skills. I would think that if you didnt let your kid get away with tantrums and what not this wouldnt be necessary. As far as security, hold your childs hand and make sure you know where your child is at all times. Theres is that chance the child could bolt away right as a car is going bye but when near a street you should at all times have a hold of your childs hand.

[Nagishkaw 510]

Why do you hate leashes?

[_Simpson_ 250]

Well mostly because I think that its unnecessary and just points out that you have a kid you cant control. I get tired of seeing these parents that have there unruly kids on a leash. What a leash prevents for most of these parents is to keep them from running around and grabbing things off shelves ect. That is just not the way to behave in a public place and having a child that does this speaks volumes about there parenting.

My sisters kids are this way and it drives me crazy, I know where the problem begins, she spoils them and never wants to tell them no. Its not because there kids just being kids, its because she spoils them. I often find that these are the type of kids you see on a leash.

Edited August 13, 2009 by looking_up

[Nagishkaw 510]

Leashes! We don't need no stinkin' leashes.

[_Simpson_ 250]

Well dam if I knew I was going to get that sort of answer from you I would not of spent the time and energy to point out where I am coming from on this issue.

Edited August 13, 2009 by looking_up

[Peikko 1,575]

Well mostly because I think that its unnecessary and just points out that you have a kid you cant control. I get tired of seeing these parents that have there unruly kids on a leash. What a leash prevents for most of these parents is to keep them from running around and grabbing things off shelves ect. That is just not the way to behave in a public place and having a child that does this speaks volumes about there parenting.

My sisters kids are this way and it drives me crazy, I know where the problem begins, she spoils them and never wants to tell them no. Its not because there kids just being kids, its because she spoils them. I often find that these are the type of kids you see on a leash.

Do you have kids?

I think you are talking out your ####### is why I ask. Every parent has moments when their children are 'uncontrollable' and it has nothing to do with whether you are spoiling them or not. What it has to do with is a child learning to understand boundaries and discovering that the world does not center around them. It's a tricky business, child rearing and there are no honest parents out there who have never, ever had a '####### do I' do now moment.

[sara..... 371]

Well mostly because I think that its unnecessary and just points out that you have a kid you cant control. I get tired of seeing these parents that have there unruly kids on a leash. What a leash prevents for most of these parents is to keep them from running around and grabbing things off shelves ect. That is just not the way to behave in a public place and having a child that does this speaks volumes about there parenting.

My sisters kids are this way and it drives me crazy, I know where the problem begins, she spoils them and never wants to tell them no. Its not because there kids just being kids, its because she spoils them. I often find that these are the type of kids you see on a leash.

my mom has some of the best behaved kids u will ever see but a child is a child and its better to be safe than crying over a child that something has happened to that didnt need to.

we could never have traveled like we did if her children were not well behaved, i personally think it has nothing to do with parenting skills but a way to

(1) insure ur child is not taken while u turn ur attention to another child in need or darts here or there because they saw something pretty putting them self in danger

there are many people that feel the way u do an that is every parents right to feel what they feel is best for their child including using a leash if they feel that is the best way.

how ever i do not agree with dragging ur child across a public floor like that.

sara

Edited August 13, 2009 by estadia

[_Simpson_ 250]

Well mostly because I think that its unnecessary and just points out that you have a kid you cant control. I get tired of seeing these parents that have there unruly kids on a leash. What a leash prevents for most of these parents is to keep them from running around and grabbing things off shelves ect. That is just not the way to behave in a public place and having a child that does this speaks volumes about there parenting.

My sisters kids are this way and it drives me crazy, I know where the problem begins, she spoils them and never wants to tell them no. Its not because there kids just being kids, its because she spoils them. I often find that these are the type of kids you see on a leash.

Do you have kids?

I think you are talking out your ####### is why I ask. Every parent has moments when their children are 'uncontrollable' and it has nothing to do with whether you are spoiling them or not. What it has to do with is a child learning to understand boundaries and discovering that the world does not center around them. It's a tricky business, child rearing and there are no honest parents out there who have never, ever had a '####### do I' do now moment.

No I dont have kids. So does that mean I cant understand these issues??? I do have parenting skills though, not my children but nevertheless common sense is applicable in this topic.

They have those moment yes regardless to parenting but with a disciplined child these moments are far few and in between and doesn't warrant having there kids on a leash. I have a question for you though, in your experience have you found that these kids(on leashes) tend to be spoiled brats and not kids of parents who are afraid of that ####### moment?

Edited August 13, 2009 by looking_up

[_Simpson_ 250]

Well mostly because I think that its unnecessary and just points out that you have a kid you cant control. I get tired of seeing these parents that have there unruly kids on a leash. What a leash prevents for most of these parents is to keep them from running around and grabbing things off shelves ect. That is just not the way to behave in a public place and having a child that does this speaks volumes about there parenting.

My sisters kids are this way and it drives me crazy, I know where the problem begins, she spoils them and never wants to tell them no. Its not because there kids just being kids, its because she spoils them. I often find that these are the type of kids you see on a leash.

my mom has some of the best behaved kids u will ever see but a child is a child and its better to be safe than crying over a child that something has happened to that didnt need to.

we could never have traveled like we did if her children were not well behaved, i personally think it has nothing to do with parenting skills but a way to

(1) insure ur child is not taken while u turn ur attention to another child in need or darts here or there because they saw something pretty putting them self in danger

there are many people that feel the way u do an that is every parents right to feel what they feel is best for their child including using a leash if they feel that is the best way.

how ever i do not agree with dragging ur child across a public floor like that.

sara

Ok fair enough. I do agree with you on the last sentence, she should picked that child up and carried her out of the store.

Edited August 13, 2009 by looking_up

[Peikko 1,575]

Well mostly because I think that its unnecessary and just points out that you have a kid you cant control. I get tired of seeing these parents that have there unruly kids on a leash. What a leash prevents for most of these parents is to keep them from running around and grabbing things off shelves ect. That is just not the way to behave in a public place and having a child that does this speaks volumes about there parenting.

My sisters kids are this way and it drives me crazy, I know where the problem begins, she spoils them and never wants to tell them no. Its not because there kids just being kids, its because she spoils them. I often find that these are the type of kids you see on a leash.

Do you have kids?

I think you are talking out your ####### is why I ask. Every parent has moments when their children are 'uncontrollable' and it has nothing to do with whether you are spoiling them or not. What it has to do with is a child learning to understand boundaries and discovering that the world does not center around them. It's a tricky business, child rearing and there are no honest parents out there who have never, ever had a '####### do I' do now moment.

No I dont have kids. So does that mean I cant understand these issues??? I do have parenting skills though, not my children but nevertheless common sense is applicable in this topic.

They have those moment yes regardless to parenting but with a disciplined child these moments are far few and in between and doesn't warrant having there kids on a leash. I have a question for you though, in your experience have you found that these kids(on leashes) tend to be spoiled brats and not kids of parents who are afraid of that ####### moment?

I have no idea, I have no statistical data to answer your question - or are you suggesting that any anecdotal evidence I might have is 'proof positive' to one view or another? Do you also have any proof that the incident on the video was a common occurrence as apposed to one of those '#######' moments or are you basing that assumption merely on the fact that the child in the video was on said leash?

As for your childless state, of course that does not preclude you from having an opinion but my point was, without such experience, making negative comments about your sister's handling of her kids is to say the least gauche.