Dems Fear Town Hall Meetings

[Heracles 417]

Is that why Medicare and SS have a combined unfunded liabilty of over 100 Trillion dollars? Is that your definition of working?

Who is responsible for that? Who went into two major wars and didn't even bother funding them? Actually decided to pass tax cuts when they should have increased taxes to pay for the wars.

I highly recommend everyone watch the following. It should be screened to every politician and American.

Edited August 10, 2009 by haza

[GaryC 7]

Is that why Medicare and SS have a combined unfunded liabilty of over 100 Trillion dollars? Is that your definition of working?

Who is responsible for that? Who went into two major wars and didn't even bother funding them? Actually decided to pass tax cuts when they should have increased taxes to pay for the wars.

If you had a clue you would know that SS and Medicare are paid for by seperate taxes and have nothing to do with wars or the funding. But you don't have a clue so I will let you slide on that.

[Heracles 417]

If you had a clue you would know that SS and Medicare are paid for by seperate taxes and have nothing to do with wars or the funding. But you don't have a clue so I will let you slide on that.

So how did your buddies pay for the two wars?

Stick to listening to Limbaugh and you'll end up just as smart as him.

Edited August 10, 2009 by haza

[The Dude 206]

Ummmmm.... thats why i asked where YOU got those numbers from. I did a search for it and the numbers I found were all significantly lower.

http://www.ncpa.org/pdfs/ba616.pdf

Well, that explains the discrepency in numbers.

I'm not dismissing it out of hand, but you are quoting a very conservative organization. I'd wager that the true number is somewhere in between.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

I don't mom will care if the shoe fits or not.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

I don't understand why followers like Steven, who beg to be dependent on the government, need to involve those like myself who don't want to be dependent on government in their hand out scams. Why can't you helpless and hapless folks just go hat in hand into individual dependency on your own rather than causing such a ruckus by trying to force everyone in the country into your personal misery against their will?

There you go again with your truth into taffy trick.

Social programs in this country can and do work. Government alone isn't the answer and neither is the private sector. It requires a balance of both, but extremists like you cannot see beyond polarized opposites. I'm for what Teddy Roosevelt was for among many other great leaders and individuals in this country. If you could take those ideological blinders off for long enough, you'd begin to find common ground with reasonable solutions that involve both public and private involvement. It's not an 'us vs. them' fight to begin with. That's your trouble.

Steven, you have posted long enough for anyone to know there is nothing balanced in your thinking. That you think otherwise is your problem.

I can always tell when you're stuck because you resort to making personal rather than actually responding to my argument.

Taffy brain

If you had a coherent argument, I'd be happy to respond to it. I asked why you insist on "solutions" that amount to collectivism rather than allowing for choice. If I don't want the government in my health choices, I should be able to keep them out. You, on the other hand, want them in, but not only for you, but for everyone. What kind of balance do you find in that?

[Danno 1,228]

But don't you See, if it weren't for the Fed Govt trying to force everyone to do it their way, we wouldn't have this problem.

Danno, did you feel Bush forced you as a citizen to abide by his policies and rules or did he just ask you to in a kinder and gentler way?

I'm having trouble thinking of anything the "too kind and too gentle" Bush forced me to do.

Can you think of a few?

[Kathryn41 3,205]

Personal insults are a violation of TOS and have been removed. They also add nothing to the discussion.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

If you had a clue you would know that SS and Medicare are paid for by seperate taxes and have nothing to do with wars or the funding. But you don't have a clue so I will let you slide on that.

So how did your buddies pay for the two wars?

Stick to listening to Limbaugh and you'll end up just as smart as him.

Did Barry end two wars? Did I miss something? The man can't even get Gitmo closed.

Edited August 11, 2009 by Sofiyya

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I don't understand why followers like Steven, who beg to be dependent on the government, need to involve those like myself who don't want to be dependent on government in their hand out scams. Why can't you helpless and hapless folks just go hat in hand into individual dependency on your own rather than causing such a ruckus by trying to force everyone in the country into your personal misery against their will?

There you go again with your truth into taffy trick.

Social programs in this country can and do work. Government alone isn't the answer and neither is the private sector. It requires a balance of both, but extremists like you cannot see beyond polarized opposites. I'm for what Teddy Roosevelt was for among many other great leaders and individuals in this country. If you could take those ideological blinders off for long enough, you'd begin to find common ground with reasonable solutions that involve both public and private involvement. It's not an 'us vs. them' fight to begin with. That's your trouble.

Steven, you have posted long enough for anyone to know there is nothing balanced in your thinking. That you think otherwise is your problem.

I can always tell when you're stuck because you resort to making personal rather than actually responding to my argument.

Taffy brain

If you had a coherent argument, I'd be happy to respond to it. I asked why you insist on "solutions" that amount to collectivism rather than allowing for choice. If I don't want the government in my health choices, I should be able to keep them out. You, on the other hand, want them in, but not only for you, but for everyone. What kind of balance do you find in that?

So if a bill finally comes forward in Congress that includes a public option, but makes clear that private insurance will always be an individual option for Americans, you'd consider it?

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

All troops have been withdrawn from urban areas of Iraq. It's a start.

Oh and he never said he'd end Afghanistan.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

But don't you See, if it weren't for the Fed Govt trying to force everyone to do it their way, we wouldn't have this problem.

Danno, did you feel Bush forced you as a citizen to abide by his policies and rules or did he just ask you to in a kinder and gentler way?

I'm having trouble thinking of anything the "too kind and too gentle" Bush forced me to do.

Can you think of a few?

Did you feel that Bush was forcing you to abide by his policies and rules when he was in office? And if so, did you also resent it then?

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

pickup

You really are a moron aren't you?

It's misinformed small town clowns like you that have ... screwed up the US.

You and Gary are gonna get this thread locked

[Heracles 417]

Gary means well but unfortunately when it comes to health care, he doesn't know what he is talking about.

Edited August 11, 2009 by haza

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Everyone means well. Even Danno.