I 134 questions, one for me, one for co-sponsor?

[Bill+Maria 0]

We have been waiting a long time and still have not received our NOA2, but i want to be ready when we do get it. I have filled out the I 134 but i dont make quite enough money on the books right now, and do not have enough tax records to be able to do it with out a co-sponsor. My folks are willing to do it, they have money in the bank i think, a business, and a LOT of money in their land (~400acres) so it should not be a problem for them. They had just asked me if they get "added on" to my I134 or if they submit their own. If they do their own, how should they list their relationship to her? future daughter in law? family friend? what evidence will they need to submit in regards to their property assets? it is all paid for, so their is no mortgage documentation to submit. their financial assets? do stocks count? how do they show proof?

sorry for all the questions, i just want to be prepared for when these documents need to be sent off to the embassy in Madrid. We have been waiting so long, i would like to have everything ready so it can go as quickly as possible after we get the NOA2

thanks!!

bill

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[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

We have been waiting a long time and still have not received our NOA2, but i want to be ready when we do get it. I have filled out the I 134 but i dont make quite enough money on the books right now, and do not have enough tax records to be able to do it with out a co-sponsor. My folks are willing to do it, they have money in the bank i think, a business, and a LOT of money in their land (~400acres) so it should not be a problem for them. They had just asked me if they get "added on" to my I134 or if they submit their own. If they do their own, how should they list their relationship to her? future daughter in law? family friend? what evidence will they need to submit in regards to their property assets? it is all paid for, so their is no mortgage documentation to submit. their financial assets? do stocks count? how do they show proof?

sorry for all the questions, i just want to be prepared for when these documents need to be sent off to the embassy in Madrid. We have been waiting so long, i would like to have everything ready so it can go as quickly as possible after we get the NOA2

thanks!!

bill

I'll take a shot at this...

One of your parents will have to assume the co-sponsor role. It can't be both of them. The co-sponsor will have to fill their own I-134 according to their own circumstances, and provide their own evidence. In other words, their I-134 will state the number of dependents they have (including your fiancee), their income, their tax forms, and their assets. For relationship to sponsor, I would think "father/mother of fiance" would suffice.

If your parents have enough income to qualify without assets, then they don't need to list any assets. If they are short on income, then they'll need to list assets to qualify. Note that there are no rules for what is needed to qualify with the I-134. This means that the consulate has wide latitude in what they are willing to accept as assurance that the beneficiary won't become a public charge. Most consulates use all or part of the I-864 requirements, so that's usually a good place to start when trying to determine qualifications. The I-864 allows YOU, the primary sponsor, to make up any shortfall in income with assets that are 3X the value of the shortfall. However, your parents are not sponsoring a spouse or minor child, so the consulate may require their assets to be valued at 5X the value of their own shortfall, since this would be the case with the I-864 form. This is a consulate specific issue. Some consulates are also reluctant to accept a co-sponsor that requires assets to qualify, since this is essentially declaring that neither the primary sponsor nor the co-sponsor have enough cash income to support the beneficiary.

Any credible proof that they own an asset should be acceptable. For land, a copy of the deed should suffice. For stocks, a recent statement from their broker.

A recent professional appraisal is usually required to declare the value of a home, but I would think a tax assessment would be sufficient for declaring the value of land. It might also be helpful if they can obtain statement from a Title Company that the property is free of liens (i.e., they own it outright). I doubt a consular officer is going to want to look up the ticker symbol for each stock they own, so a statement from the broker stating the value of their portfolio on a given day should work. A bank statement will do for cash assets.

Check the regional forum or send an email to the consulate in Madrid and ask about their requirements for co-sponsors.

[Bill+Maria 0]

I'll take a shot at this...

One of your parents will have to assume the co-sponsor role. It can't be both of them. The co-sponsor will have to fill their own I-134 according to their own circumstances, and provide their own evidence. In other words, their I-134 will state the number of dependents they have (including your fiancee), their income, their tax forms, and their assets. For relationship to sponsor, I would think "father/mother of fiance" would suffice.

If your parents have enough income to qualify without assets, then they don't need to list any assets. If they are short on income, then they'll need to list assets to qualify. Note that there are no rules for what is needed to qualify with the I-134. This means that the consulate has wide latitude in what they are willing to accept as assurance that the beneficiary won't become a public charge. Most consulates use all or part of the I-864 requirements, so that's usually a good place to start when trying to determine qualifications. The I-864 allows YOU, the primary sponsor, to make up any shortfall in income with assets that are 3X the value of the shortfall. However, your parents are not sponsoring a spouse or minor child, so the consulate may require their assets to be valued at 5X the value of their own shortfall, since this would be the case with the I-864 form. This is a consulate specific issue. Some consulates are also reluctant to accept a co-sponsor that requires assets to qualify, since this is essentially declaring that neither the primary sponsor nor the co-sponsor have enough cash income to support the beneficiary.

Any credible proof that they own an asset should be acceptable. For land, a copy of the deed should suffice. For stocks, a recent statement from their broker.

A recent professional appraisal is usually required to declare the value of a home, but I would think a tax assessment would be sufficient for declaring the value of land. It might also be helpful if they can obtain statement from a Title Company that the property is free of liens (i.e., they own it outright). I doubt a consular officer is going to want to look up the ticker symbol for each stock they own, so a statement from the broker stating the value of their portfolio on a given day should work. A bank statement will do for cash assets.

Check the regional forum or send an email to the consulate in Madrid and ask about their requirements for co-sponsors.

OK, its been a while now, we have the NOA2 and the new case # from the NVC. I have a couple more questions, I currently have 2 jobs, but on the 134 form there is only space for 1? do i fill out 2? my mom signed up on here and asked a question about their 134, and i think she is ok, but with my 2 jobs, it should show that i make more than enough to meet the poverty requirements, the problem comes that the past few years i have made nowhere near enough $$ to show support, thus i will continue to use the 134 support of my dad (he is the one that will fill out the 134)

another question, does she need to fill out a 134? i was reading

http://www.visajourney.com/consulates/inde...&cty=Madrid

and it seems like the person that wrote it did.... as it talks about "copy of a letter I sent to the company who administer my income, directing them to send the money to my new bank in the US" does Maria need to submit a 134 as well?