Socialist America Sinking

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,532920,00.html

Who's Paying for your Free Lunch?

Can't afford health care? We'll get health care for you.

Can't afford your home? We'll find a way to keep you in your home.

Can't pay your tuition tab? Let us pick up the tab.

Bit by bit, if you're down and out, the government happy to bail you out. And you don't really have to pay a thing — someone else will.

Now, who wouldn't want a deal like that? Nothing beats a free lunch. Especially, as I said, when you're not picking up the tab. Rich folks are — just them — the whole tab.

So, dig in! They're the ones forking it out — not you. So mangia.

Yet only in America can we eat up all these goodies, then ###### about the very folks paying for them. It'd be like complaining to the guy who took you out for dinner, because he didn't leave a big enough tip.

Well, here's a tip: don't.

But we do. We not only bite the very hand that feeds us, but start snapping at their other hand as well. Suddenly the free eats aren't good enough. What about our rent? Our mortgage? Our doctors' bills? Surely you don't expect us to handle that?

So we don't. They do.

We get. They give.

We get more. They give more.

We ###### more. They get socked more.

Suddenly paying a third of what they make to Uncle Sam isn't good enough. So, make it 40 percent. And tack on another 5 percent to pay our doctors' bills and make it 45 percent. Then stick them with that 3 percent Medicare tax and make it 48 percent.

And, by the way, while we're at it, help us with our damn state taxes... raise the top state rate to 10 percent — no make it 11 percent — and make their combined top rate 58 percent, no 60 percent.

Hey, they've got it. We want it. And now we have a White House and Congress all but saying: Have at it.

All that's missing are the torches my friends. Have the rich pay for them too. Then kill them. And leave every last cent to us. After all, we're due. And they're dead.

I know it's Fox News...I know it's commentary by Neil Cavuto--but all that aside for a second, he has a point here......What happens when the folks actually paying into all this dwindle out? Who pays for it all then?

But no matter coz we all gonna be rich and Obama's gonna pay the mortgage and gas.

[Peikko 1,575]

I am not a fan of stimulus by any means - but it's hard to imagine that McCain, had he been elected, would have done anything differently. After all, he was the one who 'rushed to the White house in an effort to get such things moving when the crisis broke out originally.

As for health care - there are perfectly reasonable models that could be used by the US to provide efficient and comprehensive health care for everyone. No one is however prepared to risk the wrath of the health care lobbyists though, not McCain (where he to have been elected) and not Obama. It seems to me that the US system of government favours waste and inefficiency regardless of which stripe is in power. As a result it may well be that a patchwork bill will be proposed and it may well be that it will prove expensive. There is in fact no excuse for that at all but I rather fear that is what we will be handed down.

[peejay 327]

I am not a fan of stimulus by any means - but it's hard to imagine that McCain, had he been elected, would have done anything differently. After all, he was the one who 'rushed to the White house in an effort to get such things moving when the crisis broke out originally.

As for health care - there are perfectly reasonable models that could be used by the US to provide efficient and comprehensive health care for everyone. No one is however prepared to risk the wrath of the health care lobbyists though, not McCain (where he to have been elected) and not Obama. It seems to me that the US system of government favours waste and inefficiency regardless of which stripe is in power. As a result it may well be that a patchwork bill will be proposed and it may well be that it will prove expensive. There is in fact no excuse for that at all but I rather fear that is what we will be handed down.

I was never a fan nor a cheerleader for McCain. No fan of Obama either. They're just flip sides of the same worthless plug nickle.

[Peikko 1,575]

I don't think the blame is simply at the door of the politicians though. It can be laid at the doors of those who employ divisive labels (which is done largely to distract the public), the apathy of the general public in ensuring politicians do in fact keep electoral promises. It lays at the door of the media, not because it's liberal and sympathetic to left wing policies, but because it does not effectively monitor all of politics, nor does it provide enough impartial information to the general population. It can be laid at the door of the lobby system, the bill system were unrelated bills are tacked onto reasonable legislation which bogs it down and creates ridiculous situations where nothing can be done - in short there are a lot of things that could be improved where there a genuine will to address these problems instead of accusing 'the other side' of being responsible for all ills.

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

When did a journalist became a historian? That is what I like to know.

And that's another topic I could talk volumes on but haven't yet. The other side of that question is when did historian's become journalists and where is the line between them defined? On 9/11 historians were out in the street documenting what they were witnessing and taking quotes just as journalists would do. And journalists have written books going into great depth the history of situations. Here's a link by a journalist talking on the relationship between historians and journalists though not as in depth as I have had to go with the subject but it will touch on somethings: http://www.nieman.harvard.edu/reportsitem.aspx?id=101498

[alienlovechild 75]

It lays at the door of the media, not because it's liberal and sympathetic to left wing policies, but because it does not effectively monitor all of politics, nor does it provide enough impartial information to the general population.

I'm not the biggest defender of the media but there are far more sources for info now than ever before. No one monitors all politics but there local sources.

It can be laid at the door of the lobby system, the bill system were unrelated bills are tacked onto reasonable legislation which bogs it down and creates ridiculous situations where nothing can be done - in short there are a lot of things that could be improved where there a genuine will to address these problems instead of accusing 'the other side' of being responsible for all ills.

“America will always do the right thing,

… but only after everything else fails.”

Churchill

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Socialist America Sinking

by Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted 07/17/2009 ET

Comes now national health insurance from Nancy Pelosi's House. A surtax that runs to 5.4 percent of all earnings of the top 1 percent of Americans, who already pay 40 percent of all federal income taxes, has been sent to the Senate. Included also is an 8 percent tax on the entire payroll of small businesses that fail to provide health insurance for employees.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?pri...es&id=32749

Yeah, well they might be only 1% of the population, but they have over 40% of the financial wealth in this country.

Seems like proportionate taxation to me.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Socialist America Sinking

by Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted 07/17/2009 ET

Comes now national health insurance from Nancy Pelosi's House. A surtax that runs to 5.4 percent of all earnings of the top 1 percent of Americans, who already pay 40 percent of all federal income taxes, has been sent to the Senate. Included also is an 8 percent tax on the entire payroll of small businesses that fail to provide health insurance for employees.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?pri...es&id=32749

Yeah, well they might be only 1% of the population, but they have over 40% of the financial wealth in this country.

Seems like proportionate taxation to me.

Don't inject factual elements into the thread, please. It's devastating to the case they're trying to make.

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brazil is looking better and better, the socialists won't be happy until america is broke.

Punish success and reward failure. How can it not fail? People are stupid.

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brazil is looking better and better, the socialists won't be happy until america is broke.

Punish success and reward failure. How can it not fail? People are stupid.

Oh ffs.

People are stupid if they think that wealth concentration in a tiny fraction of the population equates with 'success'.

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Not everyone is equally deserving of wealth. That tiny fraction is worth it, our free and fair system makes sure they get it.

Obama's system will take from the worthy and give it out to their lessers. Lesser human beings need to be improved or eliminated, not rewarded.

It's a travesty!

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Not everyone is equally deserving of wealth. That tiny fraction is worth it, our free and fair system makes sure they get it.

Obama's system will take from the worthy and give it out to their lessers. Lesser human beings need to be improved or eliminated, not rewarded.

It's a travesty!

Oh that's right. I forgot.

We can use those second amendment rights to just go out and eliminate all those who are lesser deserving.

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When you have a cancer, you destroy it. You don't feed it free health care.

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When you have a cancer, you destroy it. You don't feed it free health care.

That's right. After all if they are sick, then they can't fight back.

Of course if they are sick, they can't work either.

Then the top 1% would have to do the work themselves.

That'd be interesting.

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That's right. After all if they are sick, then they can't fight back.

They can fight back as long as they're young. Natural immune systems still do work and are the best form of universal health care out there. It's a gift from God, nothing better.

What universal health care will do is prolong the existence of lesser worthy people once they're past their prime. There's no reason to do that. They are no longer productive at that point in time (who needs an arthritic landscaper?) anyway.