Girlfriend has a multiple entry visa - can she visit and marry me instead of doing a k1?

[sjr09 155]

Maybe she's fat 4ft tall and hairy all over

damn it... do i really have to explain to my statement.... fine here it goes

but lonely bald guy is the sterotypical used for a situation like this... at least thats what I think...

oh well...

Ahh I see your the sterotypical kind.

everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It's just that yours is stupid

well, i guess yours is stupid also.. can we move on with our lives now?

Ahh...ahh...ahh.. CHOOO

[CA dreamer 3]

it looks confusing,so what if she visited him,in usa then he made her a k1?

what if they got married in usa and applied i130 from her country?

what if they got married in usa and made her aos and that stuff?

although my husband's friends did it and it was ok.

it looks confusing for k1 visas,shall the usc go to the beneficiaries country? also marriage? uscis and usem's are using the k and cr1 stuff to annoy us and that's the truth.

[CA dreamer 3]

but to be safe,get married in her country and apply for the i130.just to have a timeline and feel the horrible waiting like folks here:) and it will make your love much stronger believe me

[msu17 0]

Keep in mind that if you did decide to have her come and stay (which is illegal how you are suggesting it) you would have to prove that she didn't enter the US with intention to stay AND that you have a bonified marriage, which will be very dificult considering you hadn't met before. Look at the picture from the interviewing officer's eyes. Girl from PI comes on a tourist visa, stays and gets married to a man she has never met in person AND she has family here. Not saying you guys aren't on the up and up, but there are a LOT of people who enter into a situation like you are suggesting to get a relative here for friends. PI is a high fraud country, so you guys need to have lots of evidence that you are legit. Not having met isn't going to do that.

[Steve Finley 0]

Thanks for your input everyone. I didn't mean to cause any trouble here - I didn't realize that my post was an often seen and annoying question. Please forgive me as I am indeed ignorant of all this - which is why I came here, although I didn't expect the negativity from some, as I'm just a nice guy trying to figure things out, not make people mad. I should have read the Guides through, but I honestly never would have thought that marrying my girl while she visits would be considered fraud. And I'm not trying to be a jerk and bypass what you have to go through, John and Camie, and jundp. I was just asking if it could be done, not knowing it was a problem.

Actually, we were talking about doing the normal K1 route anyway, and it was my idea, not hers, to ask if we could just marry while she visits. Of course we had no intent to commit any fraud, I guess we just weren't aware of all the legalities. We didn't want to illegally sneak around any legal process, I was just wondering if there was a way to legally keep her here if she marries while visiting me. I see that she'd have to return to the Philippines anyway and it really wouldn't be much easier, and I agree a visit in person first is a good thing also, so we will just do the k1. And with any luck, our k1 process will go quicker like yours Blue Rose. Who knows? And while we are anxious, I understand it's worth the wait.

To Helloworld08, you said "How in the world can you be certain you want to marry this person without actually seen this person in real life... what if this person is really a fat hairy bald 50 years old 5ft guy that has nothing better to do then to mess with you?"

It is not possible for me to explain how we know we are right for each other in a way you'll understand, you can only trust me on that. Although I'm kinda surprised you didn't know you were going to marry your girl during all of your communications, until after you met in person. You really didn't know? Now, after reading all this, and continuing my research, I will just go and visit, and do the k1. And BTW, if she were actually a different person than her pictures, phone calls to me, emails, and forthcoming videos reveal, then I wouldn't marry her, plain and simple. But this also surprises me, that after getting your own girl from overseas you do the "what if she's a fat bald guy" thing that all the skeptics here in the states do who assume all overseas people are fake. Hey, if we all assumed these girls were not who they say they are, would we all be hopping on planes to go see them? Of course not. We see them because we believe them to be real after numerous communications. And just because a person is overseas and online doesn't mean they are faking who they are - afterall, I myself am overseas to her - and for all I know her friends are telling her I'm not who I appear to be! They could be saying I'm a fat lazy slob posting fake pictures, lol. I mean, really. We earn trust through contined and varied means of communication. You know that. So yes, I know she is who she says she is, and I know she's the one for me. Nobody else has to understand that in order for it to be true.

But that wasn't even the issue. I only meant to ask about marriage on a multiple entry visa, for which I got some good answers. I appreciate the information everyone. Looks like a k1 is the way to go - which is what I needed to know. Thanks again!

[msu17 0]

Steve, we just get a lot of people here who are legitimately trying to get around legal requirements. They know better but just think their relationship is apparently much more important than everyone else trying to bring a loved one here. I'm sure you can see how that hits peoples nerves, so we all kinda jump on people when they ask that, regardless of if they didn't know or are just jerks. Dont be scared off though, VJ is a great resource for those last minute stupid questions and for support in what seems like the never ending wait. Good luck on all this and make sure to read the guides, they are a awesome.

[shashar 0]

I hate these posts so much. You're basically asking all of us who have paid and are waiting if it's okay for you to take a shortcut. Please be fair and lawful and consider filing K-1, or have her return to her country post-wedding while you file K-3. It's not easy, but it's the right thing to do.

WELL SAID!!! I couldn't agree more. Why does everyone always have this major rush to get married? So what, you wait 6 months ,10 months a year and a half... you're getting married to spend the rest of your lives together. I know it's not nice being apart (I'm in that situation too) but the way I see it... all that waiting will makes it much more worthwhile in the end.

Exactly,you need to spend time with her in person,in my opinion atleast before You have no idea what her reaction is like to certain things,for example is she quick to anger,is she long minded?And she too needs to know this about you too.

It takes more than telephone conversations to enter into marriage.

Its your decision in the end,goodluck which ever one you make.

S

[Cherry&Ed 4]

I hate these posts so much. You're basically asking all of us who have paid and are waiting if it's okay for you to take a shortcut. Please be fair and lawful and consider filing K-1, or have her return to her country post-wedding while you file K-3. It's not easy, but it's the right thing to do.

I agree with you.

[pushbrk 14,450]

I would also suggest to meet each other in person before deciding to get married.

Entering the US on a visitors visa with the intent of getting married and not leaving is visa fraud. Do not do that! Instead I would take the K-1 route and also go visit her before you get that started.

meeting in person within 2 years is a requirement so this needs to be done with no exception, well actually there is an exception but you would really really i mean really need a good reason..

This is an immigration forum, not a relationship advice forum. Please stay on topic. A lot of our members, including this one, married their spouse on their first visit and a lot more became engaged on the first visit. Please keep your judgmental comments out of this forum.

[pushbrk 14,450]

... but I honestly never would have thought that marrying my girl while she visits would be considered fraud.

It isn't considered fraud. Staying to adjust status after the marriage is where the fraud comes in. You got the correct, on-topic answer to your question in the first couple of posts. I suggest you ignore all the other BS that came after.

[CA dreamer 3]

perpendicular line is the shortest one so go directly to the right path and do k visas or cr1 read the guides on the top of the page then decide and good luck

[Abiding 0]

I hate these posts so much. You're basically asking all of us who have paid and are waiting if it's okay for you to take a shortcut. Please be fair and lawful and consider filing K-1, or have her return to her country post-wedding while you file K-3. It's not easy, but it's the right thing to do.

I say do it! There's nothing unfair or unlawful about this situation. Would you not take advantage of this if it was your case? The tourist visa obviously wasn't obtained with the intention of entering and marrying, therefore it's not fraud.

[tulum 0]

I hate these posts so much. You're basically asking all of us who have paid and are waiting if it's okay for you to take a shortcut. Please be fair and lawful and consider filing K-1, or have her return to her country post-wedding while you file K-3. It's not easy, but it's the right thing to do.

Lol. Im surprised you havent been getting more hostile posts coming your way. People here on VJ dont take too lightly to people [ newbies ] coming on here and asking for a shortcut. it really isnt fair to the people who have waited the 6 months or more to be with their loved ones. and like its been mentioned b4- it is fraud and there are serious penalties- if they can prove you had prior intentions of getting married.

[tulum 0]

Thanks for your input everyone. I didn't mean to cause any trouble here - I didn't realize that my post was an often seen and annoying question. Please forgive me as I am indeed ignorant of all this - which is why I came here, although I didn't expect the negativity from some, as I'm just a nice guy trying to figure things out, not make people mad. I should have read the Guides through, but I honestly never would have thought that marrying my girl while she visits would be considered fraud. And I'm not trying to be a jerk and bypass what you have to go through, John and Camie, and jundp. I was just asking if it could be done, not knowing it was a problem.

Actually, we were talking about doing the normal K1 route anyway, and it was my idea, not hers, to ask if we could just marry while she visits. Of course we had no intent to commit any fraud, I guess we just weren't aware of all the legalities. We didn't want to illegally sneak around any legal process, I was just wondering if there was a way to legally keep her here if she marries while visiting me. I see that she'd have to return to the Philippines anyway and it really wouldn't be much easier, and I agree a visit in person first is a good thing also, so we will just do the k1. And with any luck, our k1 process will go quicker like yours Blue Rose. Who knows? And while we are anxious, I understand it's worth the wait.

To Helloworld08, you said "How in the world can you be certain you want to marry this person without actually seen this person in real life... what if this person is really a fat hairy bald 50 years old 5ft guy that has nothing better to do then to mess with you?"

It is not possible for me to explain how we know we are right for each other in a way you'll understand, you can only trust me on that. Although I'm kinda surprised you didn't know you were going to marry your girl during all of your communications, until after you met in person. You really didn't know? Now, after reading all this, and continuing my research, I will just go and visit, and do the k1. And BTW, if she were actually a different person than her pictures, phone calls to me, emails, and forthcoming videos reveal, then I wouldn't marry her, plain and simple. But this also surprises me, that after getting your own girl from overseas you do the "what if she's a fat bald guy" thing that all the skeptics here in the states do who assume all overseas people are fake. Hey, if we all assumed these girls were not who they say they are, would we all be hopping on planes to go see them? Of course not. We see them because we believe them to be real after numerous communications. And just because a person is overseas and online doesn't mean they are faking who they are - afterall, I myself am overseas to her - and for all I know her friends are telling her I'm not who I appear to be! They could be saying I'm a fat lazy slob posting fake pictures, lol. I mean, really. We earn trust through contined and varied means of communication. You know that. So yes, I know she is who she says she is, and I know she's the one for me. Nobody else has to understand that in order for it to be true.

But that wasn't even the issue. I only meant to ask about marriage on a multiple entry visa, for which I got some good answers. I appreciate the information everyone. Looks like a k1 is the way to go - which is what I needed to know. Thanks again!

Dont feel bad though..i think any one of us would want to be with our loved one sooner if there was a way to do it without stepping outside the law. You didnt know and thats why you asked. K 1 actually seems to be the quickest route [ from what i know of others cases ] for example, i know a guy the married a girl while he was working in Costa Rica. They had a child [ born there with dual citizenship/ US passport ] and they still got denied for the K-3. He finally got her here on a B-2 and they are adjusting her status. Another guy married his girl while she was here visiting [ like what you were asking about ] and she had to go back after her visitor visa expired...they have been apart a year now. Do your research and find the best way for you. Good Luck

BTW -it is a good idea to go meet her- pictures, phone calls and emails are one thing but there is no substitute for looking into someone's eyes

[Steve Finley 0]

Thanks again for your replies everyone, I will certainly go for a K1. I honestly had no idea of what I was asking. I didn't mean to say I deserve a shortcut when everyone else had to go through a long legal process. But now I know better, which is why I came here. I especially appreciate the kind and supportive responses MSU17, Longdistancelove.