PETA killed 95% of the animals it rescued in 2008

[Ban Hammer 14,573]

PETA is political organization first and a animal rights group second. They figured saving animals held very little political benefit.

animals don't vote

[britty 1]

Bill,

I decided to do a little searching and found some interesting things. One - this group that is behind these 'truthing out' revelations of PETA, is funding by the food industry, which has been a target of PETA. Not exactly a group that has a stellar record on the ethical treatment of animals. Second, according to one source I found, PETA's objective in taking animals from some shelters is because those shelters gas the animals or shoot them vs. lethal injection, which PETA believes to be a more humane way to put an animal down. Also, according to that report - PETA is only taking animals from the shelter who are scheduled to be euthanized.

Again, I really don't have an opinion either way about the group. The only time I really here about them is when they are target of scrutiny, which seems to happen often. Certainly, if they are breaking any laws, they should be prosecuted. If they are doing anything unethical, we should consider changing the laws to stop them or anyone involved in unethical practices regarding the treatment of animals. However, the idea that a group wishes to be an advocate for the ethical treatment of animals, whether they call themselves PETA or Bill - Friend of All Creatures, Great and Small, is a noble one, IMO.

This is probably the only time you will read these words from me...... I am with Mr Pants on this.

[Mags 112]

Personally, I never understood why it is such a big thing to take animals off the streets and euthanize them. Yes, I understand some are taken from bad homes or are a danger to other humans, but some animals are fine and healthy with no reason to not be allowed to live free. Many other countries do not euthanize their street animals and have no problem. I don't think anyone has the right to decide if a perfectly harmless, healthy animal should live or die just because it isn't locked in someone's home.

If they are feral you can catch them, neuter them and release. It keeps the population down and eventually the population will lower and vanish. A county near us caught over 400 feral cats a few months ago and just killed them. I cried. Why catch them just to kill them? They are wild animals, most are supported by a local "feeder". Simply neuter them and release them.

I absolutely HATE any shelter that euthanizes for the sake of it. Most shelters euthanize cats and dogs they see as unhomeable. This can be from coming in with a flea allergy and having bald patches (easily treated by using a flea treatment) to the animal simply being nervous. What animal wouldn't be nervous coming into a shelter?

Cats over the age of 7 are regularly euthanized due to their age. 8 is not old - but people want kittens, so shelters, rather than giving the older cats a chance, just kill them instead.

I am so lucky in that the shelter I volunteer at does NOT kill. Last year we took over 45 cats from our local Humane Society shelter that were due to be euthanized. Some were scared and frightened but, over the last few months, we have managed to get them to be loving and happy animals. They aren't quite there yet - but, they will be.

If they had been left in the shelter they'd be dead.

And for the record, our cats are free roaming in a huge warehouse - not stuck in cages.

I HATE Peta and everything it stands for. They are the biggest bunch of hypocritical b@stards ever.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Personally, I never understood why it is such a big thing to take animals off the streets and euthanize them. Yes, I understand some are taken from bad homes or are a danger to other humans, but some animals are fine and healthy with no reason to not be allowed to live free. Many other countries do not euthanize their street animals and have no problem. I don't think anyone has the right to decide if a perfectly harmless, healthy animal should live or die just because it isn't locked in someone's home.

If they are feral you can catch them, neuter them and release. It keeps the population down and eventually the population will lower and vanish. A county near us caught over 400 feral cats a few months ago and just killed them. I cried. Why catch them just to kill them? They are wild animals, most are supported by a local "feeder". Simply neuter them and release them.

I absolutely HATE any shelter that euthanizes for the sake of it. Most shelters euthanize cats and dogs they see as unhomeable. This can be from coming in with a flea allergy and having bald patches (easily treated by using a flea treatment) to the animal simply being nervous. What animal wouldn't be nervous coming into a shelter?

Cats over the age of 7 are regularly euthanized due to their age. 8 is not old - but people want kittens, so shelters, rather than giving the older cats a chance, just kill them instead.

I am so lucky in that the shelter I volunteer at does NOT kill. Last year we took over 45 cats from our local Humane Society shelter that were due to be euthanized. Some were scared and frightened but, over the last few months, we have managed to get them to be loving and happy animals. They aren't quite there yet - but, they will be.

If they had been left in the shelter they'd be dead.

And for the record, our cats are free roaming in a huge warehouse - not stuck in cages.

I HATE Peta and everything it stands for. They are the biggest bunch of hypocritical b@stards ever.

Thanks, Mags for that information. Given that you work directly with animal shelters, I value your opinion.

[Mags 112]

Thanks, Mags for that information. Given that you work directly with animal shelters, I value your opinion.

It's something I feel very passionately about, Steven! I'd save them all if I could.

[Ban Hammer 14,573]

Thanks, Mags for that information. Given that you work directly with animal shelters, I value your opinion.

It's something I feel very passionately about, Steven! I'd save them all if I could.

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[one...two...tree 2,762]

Thanks, Mags for that information. Given that you work directly with animal shelters, I value your opinion.

It's something I feel very passionately about, Steven! I'd save them all if I could.

I believe it....Larry's vented about it plenty.

I'm wondering how, why and when PETA became just a shadow of what they say they stand for? I think any organization should have some kind of preamble or mission statement and then be structured so that should any rogue individuals within such an organization decide to steer them in a different direction, they can be removed to prevent damaging that group.

[natty bumppo 297]

Thanks, Mags for that information. Given that you work directly with animal shelters, I value your opinion.

It's something I feel very passionately about, Steven! I'd save them all if I could.

I believe it....Larry's vented about it plenty.

I'm wondering how, why and when PETA became just a shadow of what they say they stand for? I think any organization should have some kind of preamble or mission statement and then be structured so that should any rogue individuals within such an organization decide to steer them in a different direction, they can be removed to prevent damaging that group.

Yet you also disagree with your own above statement ...

Your thread ....

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Thanks, Mags for that information. Given that you work directly with animal shelters, I value your opinion.

It's something I feel very passionately about, Steven! I'd save them all if I could.

I believe it....Larry's vented about it plenty.

I'm wondering how, why and when PETA became just a shadow of what they say they stand for? I think any organization should have some kind of preamble or mission statement and then be structured so that should any rogue individuals within such an organization decide to steer them in a different direction, they can be removed to prevent damaging that group.

Yet you also disagree with your own above statement ...

Your thread ....

Oh my God...Nat...you're really grabbing for straws. Oh my...

[Mags 112]

Thanks, Mags for that information. Given that you work directly with animal shelters, I value your opinion.

It's something I feel very passionately about, Steven! I'd save them all if I could.

I believe it....Larry's vented about it plenty.

I'm wondering how, why and when PETA became just a shadow of what they say they stand for? I think any organization should have some kind of preamble or mission statement and then be structured so that should any rogue individuals within such an organization decide to steer them in a different direction, they can be removed to prevent damaging that group.

Well, to be honest, they are very similar to a lot of shelter managers. They start off with good intentions and then something happens along the way.

Politics takes precedence over saving lives.

I'd love to run my own private shelter one day, problem is I'd never let any of them go!

[natty bumppo 297]

Thanks, Mags for that information. Given that you work directly with animal shelters, I value your opinion.

It's something I feel very passionately about, Steven! I'd save them all if I could.

I believe it....Larry's vented about it plenty.

I'm wondering how, why and when PETA became just a shadow of what they say they stand for? I think any organization should have some kind of preamble or mission statement and then be structured so that should any rogue individuals within such an organization decide to steer them in a different direction, they can be removed to prevent damaging that group.

Yet you also disagree with your own above statement ...

Your thread ....

Oh my God...Nat...you're really grabbing for straws. Oh my...

Typed above ... "rogue" individuals can be steered in a different direction ... removed.

Your thread ... condemns a group that removed a "rogue" individual ...

So ... what do you support?

[Ban Hammer 14,573]

Thanks, Mags for that information. Given that you work directly with animal shelters, I value your opinion.

It's something I feel very passionately about, Steven! I'd save them all if I could.

I believe it....Larry's vented about it plenty.

I'm wondering how, why and when PETA became just a shadow of what they say they stand for? I think any organization should have some kind of preamble or mission statement and then be structured so that should any rogue individuals within such an organization decide to steer them in a different direction, they can be removed to prevent damaging that group.

Well, to be honest, they are very similar to a lot of shelter managers. They start off with good intentions and then something happens along the way.

Politics takes precedence over saving lives.

I'd love to run my own private shelter one day, problem is I'd never let any of them go!

see my link on post 36. tell platy it's gonna be a garage.

[pedroh 21]

Thanks, Mags for that information. Given that you work directly with animal shelters, I value your opinion.

It's something I feel very passionately about, Steven! I'd save them all if I could.

I believe it....Larry's vented about it plenty.

I'm wondering how, why and when PETA became just a shadow of what they say they stand for? I think any organization should have some kind of preamble or mission statement and then be structured so that should any rogue individuals within such an organization decide to steer them in a different direction, they can be removed to prevent damaging that group.

Well, to be honest, they are very similar to a lot of shelter managers. They start off with good intentions and then something happens along the way.

Politics takes precedence over saving lives.

I'd love to run my own private shelter one day, problem is I'd never let any of them go!

can I haz a kitty cat?

[baron555 934]

To us in the purebred dog business, PETA's secret objective has been very clear all along.

They would kill all pets that you and I own so that all animals can be returned to their natural state.

They are pure evil and totally political.

[GaryC 7]

PETA is more of a political organization than anything. If you want to support the ethical treatment of animals then donate to the ASPCA. They have my support and they deserve yours.