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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Canada
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I've heard a lot of dicussion on using "None" versus "N/A" on different parts of the forms needed for your petition. Would it be possible to start a thread that lists what ocassions "None" is appropriate and which "N/A" is appropriate?

For example: Q9 of the I-129f "Names of Prior Spouses"

Do I put "N/A" because I've never had any spouses?

Or do I put "None" because these spouses I've never had obviously don't have any names?

I'm just so worried about getting the packet returned to me for a stupid reason.

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K-1

Service Center: California (transferred from Nebraska)

Consulate: Vancouver, Canada (transferred from Montreal)

06.17.2006 — Engagement!

08.23.2006 — NOA1

11.01.2006 — NOA2

01.25.2007 — Interview—APPPROOOVVEEEDD!!

02.12.2007 — Entry date!

03.01.2007 — Applied for SSN.

03.08.2007 — Social Security Card arrives! :)

03.17.2007 — Wedding day! Happy St. Patty's Day! YAY! :D

AOS/EAD

04.30.2007 — AOS/EAD Mailed off (No AP)

05.02.2007 — Arrives in Chicago.

05.08.2007 — NOA1 for AOS/EAD

06.01.2007 — Biometrics (and EAD Touch)

06.14.2007 — AOS Touch

06.17.2007 — AOS Transferred to CSC

06.19.2007 — AOS Touch

06.20.2007 — AOS Touch

06.21.2007 — AOS Touch (They must be doing something!)

07.25.2007 — EA Card Arrives. YAY! :)

09.03.2007 — AOS Touch, something finally!

09.05.2007 — AOS Touch

09.07.2007 — AOS Touch

09.09.2007 — AOS Touch

09.10.2007 — AOS Touch

09.11.2007 — AOS Approval without interview

09.17.2007 — Welcome to America! Letter arrives

09.29.2007 — Green card arrives! WOOO! No more USCIS until 06/09.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Taiwan
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Cass the Sticky thread RFE Master List does have some pointers on where N/a and None go .. I think it is stupid.. but yeah it does matter and in that thread I did see some people that got RFE's for putting N/A instead of None..

May 1, 2006 - Submitted I-129F (Overnight) NSC

May 2, 2006 - NOA1

June 1, 2006 - Transferred to CSC

June 14, 2006 - Notice from CSC it was transferred

June 30, 2006 - Received IMBRA RFE (CSC)

July 5, 2006 - Touched (RFE Received)

July 31, 2006 - APPROVED

August 5, 2006 Physical NOA2

August 15, 2006 NVC Received and Sent

August 22, 2006 AIT sent Packet 3

August 22, 2006 Packet 3 got lost in the mail... sending another.. :( :( :(

October 27, 2006 Interview

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Canada
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I looked through there, and saw some mention of it (hence why I'm worried). But I just wanted to get more specific answers. As in which answers are appropriate for which questions?

Bah! Picky those government types. :devil:

Cass the Sticky thread RFE Master List does have some pointers on where N/a and None go .. I think it is stupid.. but yeah it does matter and in that thread I did see some people that got RFE's for putting N/A instead of None..

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K-1

Service Center: California (transferred from Nebraska)

Consulate: Vancouver, Canada (transferred from Montreal)

06.17.2006 — Engagement!

08.23.2006 — NOA1

11.01.2006 — NOA2

01.25.2007 — Interview—APPPROOOVVEEEDD!!

02.12.2007 — Entry date!

03.01.2007 — Applied for SSN.

03.08.2007 — Social Security Card arrives! :)

03.17.2007 — Wedding day! Happy St. Patty's Day! YAY! :D

AOS/EAD

04.30.2007 — AOS/EAD Mailed off (No AP)

05.02.2007 — Arrives in Chicago.

05.08.2007 — NOA1 for AOS/EAD

06.01.2007 — Biometrics (and EAD Touch)

06.14.2007 — AOS Touch

06.17.2007 — AOS Transferred to CSC

06.19.2007 — AOS Touch

06.20.2007 — AOS Touch

06.21.2007 — AOS Touch (They must be doing something!)

07.25.2007 — EA Card Arrives. YAY! :)

09.03.2007 — AOS Touch, something finally!

09.05.2007 — AOS Touch

09.07.2007 — AOS Touch

09.09.2007 — AOS Touch

09.10.2007 — AOS Touch

09.11.2007 — AOS Approval without interview

09.17.2007 — Welcome to America! Letter arrives

09.29.2007 — Green card arrives! WOOO! No more USCIS until 06/09.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Canada
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n/a means not applicable. Since the question is applicable, I would put none.

*January 24 2006 - mailed in I129-F petition

*January 25 2006 - I129-F received at CSC

*January 30 2006 - packet returned.....arggggggggg we forgot one signature!!

*January 31 2006 - sent I129-F back to the CSC, hope we did not forget anything else

*February 1 2006 - I129-F received at CSC again

*February 3 2006 - NOA1

*April 20 2006 - NOA2!!!!!

*April 24 2006 - Touched!

*May 15 2006 - NVC received petition today!

*May 17 2006 - Case left NVC today!!

*May 30 2006 - Received Packet 3 from Vancouver!

*May 30 2006 - Faxed back Packet 3!!

*June 6 2006 - Received packet 4!

*June 20 2006 - Medical in Saskatoon

*June 28 2006 - Interview in Vancouver!!

*June 28 2006 - GOT THE VISA!!!*June 30 2006 - Moving day!

*July 3 2006 - Home at last!!

*July 28 2006 - married!

*September 13 2006 - Mailed AOS/EAD package

*September 25 2006 - Received NOA for AOS/EAD

*October 6 2006 - Biometrics appointments

*October 10 2006 - Touched!

*October 19 2006 - Transferred to CSC!

*October 26 2006 - Received by CSC

*October 27 2006 - Touched

*October 28 2006 - Touched again

*October 31 2006 - Touched again

*November 2 2006 - Touched again

*November 3 2006- and another touch

*November 7 2006- touched

*November 7 2006 - My case approved, still waiting for kids!

*November 8 2006 - Touched my case again

*November 13 2006 - Greencard arrived...yeah I can work!

*November 14 2006 - Touched my case again

*January 2007 - RFE for kids Greencard.

*February 2007 - kids medical and sent in RFE

*February 2007 - Received kids greencards

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Brazil
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Only in rare cases you put N/A, when it's really not applicable to your case, all the others are NONE, if you have trouble, follow the example forms. ;)

(Puerto Rico) Luis & Laura (Brazil) K1 JOURNEY
04/11/2006 - Filed I-129F.
09/29/2006 - Visa in hand!

10/15/2006 - POE San Juan
11/15/2006 - MARRIAGE

AOS JOURNEY
01/05/2007 - AOS sent to Chicago.
03/26/2007 - Green Card in hand!

REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS JOURNEY
01/26/2009 - Filed I-751.
06/22/2009 - Green Card in hand!

NATURALIZATION JOURNEY
06/26/2014 - N-400 sent to Nebraska
07/02/2014 - NOA
07/24/2014 - Biometrics
10/24/2014 - Interview (approved)

01/16/2015 - Oath Ceremony


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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Canada
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I think that's what I'm going to put, that's what's on the sample forms. But it's just so second-guessy on every question. :blink:

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K-1

Service Center: California (transferred from Nebraska)

Consulate: Vancouver, Canada (transferred from Montreal)

06.17.2006 — Engagement!

08.23.2006 — NOA1

11.01.2006 — NOA2

01.25.2007 — Interview—APPPROOOVVEEEDD!!

02.12.2007 — Entry date!

03.01.2007 — Applied for SSN.

03.08.2007 — Social Security Card arrives! :)

03.17.2007 — Wedding day! Happy St. Patty's Day! YAY! :D

AOS/EAD

04.30.2007 — AOS/EAD Mailed off (No AP)

05.02.2007 — Arrives in Chicago.

05.08.2007 — NOA1 for AOS/EAD

06.01.2007 — Biometrics (and EAD Touch)

06.14.2007 — AOS Touch

06.17.2007 — AOS Transferred to CSC

06.19.2007 — AOS Touch

06.20.2007 — AOS Touch

06.21.2007 — AOS Touch (They must be doing something!)

07.25.2007 — EA Card Arrives. YAY! :)

09.03.2007 — AOS Touch, something finally!

09.05.2007 — AOS Touch

09.07.2007 — AOS Touch

09.09.2007 — AOS Touch

09.10.2007 — AOS Touch

09.11.2007 — AOS Approval without interview

09.17.2007 — Welcome to America! Letter arrives

09.29.2007 — Green card arrives! WOOO! No more USCIS until 06/09.

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Filed: Country: United Kingdom
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cass, there is also nothing wrong with simply answering with the correct information.

"Names of Prior Spouses"

"None/never married"

N/A in that case is not correct; the question DOES apply to you.

Now That You Are A Permanent Resident

How Do I Remove The Conditions On Permanent Residence Based On Marriage?

Welcome to the United States: A Guide For New Immigrants

Yes, even this last one.. stuff in there that not even your USC knows.....

Here are more links that I love:

Arriving in America, The POE Drill

Dual Citizenship FAQ

Other Fora I Post To:

alt.visa.us.marriage-based http://britishexpats.com/ and www.***removed***.com

censored link = *family based immigration* website

Inertia. Is that the Greek god of 'can't be bothered'?

Met, married, immigrated, naturalized.

I-130 filed Aug02

USC Jul06

No Deje Piedras Sobre El Pavimento!

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Argentina
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I sent my I-129F before I found this wonderful site, and common sense told me to use N/A to answer most of the questions. The only places where I used "none" was for the File Number on form G-325A and when they told me to put none (like spouse's name). Looking back, I wish I had found this before I sent it, but we shall see what happens :huh:

AOS

01-29-07 - marriage

02-07-07 - AOS package mailed to Chicago

02-09-07 - AOS package delivered

02-13-07 - NOA1 date

02-21-07 - Biometrics letter

02-24-07 - NOA1 received

03-01-07 - Biometrics taken

03-15-07 - Transferred to The Sucky/Slow Center (TSC)... to "speed up" processing.

03-17-07 - Transferred notice e-mail

03-20-07 - Received TSC transfer letter

03-21-07 - application pending at TSC e-mail.

05-14-07 - Misinfopass appt. COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME.

06-05-07 - I-131 e-filed

06-11-07 - AP NOA1

07-09-07 - Received weird looking letter for AP, but online status hasn't changed

Last Touch - AOS 3/24, AP 7/03

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cass,

N/A is one of the most mis-used acronyms ever. Worse than that, even when used appropriately it can be ambiguous and begs the response 'why is the question not applicable?'.

There is always a better answer than N/A. In your example, 'no prior spouse' leaves no doubt what your marital history is.

I've heard a lot of dicussion on using "None" versus "N/A" on different parts of the forms needed for your petition. Would it be possible to start a thread that lists what ocassions "None" is appropriate and which "N/A" is appropriate?

For example: Q9 of the I-129f "Names of Prior Spouses"

Do I put "N/A" because I've never had any spouses?

Or do I put "None" because these spouses I've never had obviously don't have any names?

I'm just so worried about getting the packet returned to me for a stupid reason.

Eliminate 'N/A' from your vocabulary and second-guessing from your mentality - answer every question as asked with a meaningful answer.

I think that's what I'm going to put, that's what's on the sample forms. But it's just so second-guessy on every question.

Yodrak

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Canada
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Good call. I'll just not use N/A at all. You're right, there is always a better answer.

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K-1

Service Center: California (transferred from Nebraska)

Consulate: Vancouver, Canada (transferred from Montreal)

06.17.2006 — Engagement!

08.23.2006 — NOA1

11.01.2006 — NOA2

01.25.2007 — Interview—APPPROOOVVEEEDD!!

02.12.2007 — Entry date!

03.01.2007 — Applied for SSN.

03.08.2007 — Social Security Card arrives! :)

03.17.2007 — Wedding day! Happy St. Patty's Day! YAY! :D

AOS/EAD

04.30.2007 — AOS/EAD Mailed off (No AP)

05.02.2007 — Arrives in Chicago.

05.08.2007 — NOA1 for AOS/EAD

06.01.2007 — Biometrics (and EAD Touch)

06.14.2007 — AOS Touch

06.17.2007 — AOS Transferred to CSC

06.19.2007 — AOS Touch

06.20.2007 — AOS Touch

06.21.2007 — AOS Touch (They must be doing something!)

07.25.2007 — EA Card Arrives. YAY! :)

09.03.2007 — AOS Touch, something finally!

09.05.2007 — AOS Touch

09.07.2007 — AOS Touch

09.09.2007 — AOS Touch

09.10.2007 — AOS Touch

09.11.2007 — AOS Approval without interview

09.17.2007 — Welcome to America! Letter arrives

09.29.2007 — Green card arrives! WOOO! No more USCIS until 06/09.

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Argentina
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Other k1 help websites tell you to use N/A though

AOS

01-29-07 - marriage

02-07-07 - AOS package mailed to Chicago

02-09-07 - AOS package delivered

02-13-07 - NOA1 date

02-21-07 - Biometrics letter

02-24-07 - NOA1 received

03-01-07 - Biometrics taken

03-15-07 - Transferred to The Sucky/Slow Center (TSC)... to "speed up" processing.

03-17-07 - Transferred notice e-mail

03-20-07 - Received TSC transfer letter

03-21-07 - application pending at TSC e-mail.

05-14-07 - Misinfopass appt. COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME.

06-05-07 - I-131 e-filed

06-11-07 - AP NOA1

07-09-07 - Received weird looking letter for AP, but online status hasn't changed

Last Touch - AOS 3/24, AP 7/03

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Argentina
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grismar,

And other K1 petitioners have received RFEs for doing so. Yet it's so easy to avoid the risk.

Yodrak

Other k1 help websites tell you to use N/A though

I want to kick myself right now for not finding this site sooner. I looked at a million other K1 sites before sending my application and most of them, if not all, said to put N/A. I never truly learned how to use N/A accurately. Maybe they'll forgive me since English is my third language. :ot2: Good luck Cass!

AOS

01-29-07 - marriage

02-07-07 - AOS package mailed to Chicago

02-09-07 - AOS package delivered

02-13-07 - NOA1 date

02-21-07 - Biometrics letter

02-24-07 - NOA1 received

03-01-07 - Biometrics taken

03-15-07 - Transferred to The Sucky/Slow Center (TSC)... to "speed up" processing.

03-17-07 - Transferred notice e-mail

03-20-07 - Received TSC transfer letter

03-21-07 - application pending at TSC e-mail.

05-14-07 - Misinfopass appt. COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME.

06-05-07 - I-131 e-filed

06-11-07 - AP NOA1

07-09-07 - Received weird looking letter for AP, but online status hasn't changed

Last Touch - AOS 3/24, AP 7/03

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: China
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grismar,

And other K1 petitioners have received RFEs for doing so. Yet it's so easy to avoid the risk.

Yodrak

Other k1 help websites tell you to use N/A though

Not only other websites tell you to use N/A, but Item 2C of the official filing instructions from USCIS for form I-129F tells you to use N/A and when to use it.

10-10-2006 Met in internet

12-09-2006 Personal meeting in Dalian

April, May More meetings in Shanghai

05-05-2007 Engaged in Shanghai

05-12-2007 Mailed I-129F from China, EMS

05-16-2007 Received in Nebraska Service Center

05-??-2007 Forwarded to California Service Center

06-04-2007 NOA1 allegedly mailed by California Service Center

06-06-2007 Check cashed

06-07-2007 touched

08-28-2007 touched

09-04-2007 NOA1 received that CSC mailed three months earlier

10-03-2007 NOA2 sent from CSC

10-31-2007 emailed NVC, asked if they had gotten our petition

11-07-2007 NVC said they had it (didn't say when they got it) and had assigned it the case number OH2.

I can't believe we have a case number this short. They must have reached ten million and are

starting over at zero.

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Xu & Rick,

The problem being that many people often think (incorrectly) that an applicable question isn't.

Yodrak

grismar,

And other K1 petitioners have received RFEs for doing so. Yet it's so easy to avoid the risk.

Yodrak

Other k1 help websites tell you to use N/A though

Not only other websites tell you to use N/A, but Item 2C of the official filing instructions from USCIS for form I-129F tells you to use N/A and when to use it.

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