What Stimulated the Gun and Ammo Market?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

The gun is useless without bullets.

You can kill a man with its butt.

And I'm sure you can kill a man by putting his head through a car window.

This doesn't exactly prove anything.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

You don't have to think about it very hard to realise what a terrible, impractical murder weapon a car would be.

Cars have been used by suicide bombers quite a few times.

I'm sure. But the car on its own is an inherently impractical weapon.

A gun on its own can't kill anyone either. You gotta have bullets in it. And you have to point it at a deserving douchebag.

A car, similarly, must be rigged with explosives and then driven into something.

That's a faulty comparison IMO.

The gun is useless without bullets.

The car is useless without gasoline, a battery or keys.

So keys are as deadly as a bullet.

[justashooter 430]

"I don't have sympathy but PM me anyway to talk about it"

Are you for real?

an analytical perspective is indication that the psyche has recovered from the damage inflicted by the trauma. maybe someday you'll get there. hal appears unready, as well.

Perhaps. Or its an indication that you're a sociopath.

after expressing a genuine concern and willingness to help another? after revealing a difficult experience in my past for the benefit of another? that was an unwarranted cheap shot.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

"I don't have sympathy but PM me anyway to talk about it"

Are you for real?

an analytical perspective is indication that the psyche has recovered from the damage inflicted by the trauma. maybe someday you'll get there. hal appears unready, as well.

Perhaps. Or its an indication that you're a sociopath.

after expressing a genuine concern and willingness to help another? after revealing a difficult experience in my past for the benefit of another? that was an unwarranted cheap shot.

If you like.

[HAL 9000 96]

while it may have what you may want to term a "strong base" that does not, nor should not, translate into remove or rewrite the 2nd amendment. people die in car wrecks too, yet i don't see a huge outcry over stricter licensing procedures and more tests and so on.

no, methinks the problem isn't about comprehension on my end, it's more like emotion on yours.

Sure and you're talking about wild tangents now?

How many cars are used to kill people purposely? Great question!

You know what they say about emotion- even though you're highly mistaken about me- it does work quite a lot when you lose loved ones when their loss is at best, unnecessary. Nobody is talking about culling Macho-Man's right to bear arms, as you are trying to make it. We're talking about removing the possibility that the killers out there don't have real access to high-power weaponry. Big difference there that you could go in circles all week long with semantics just to evade simple logic.

cars make good weapons too, i'm sure you're aware of that. but no, cars aren't on your agenda, are they, so it's easy to discount any reference to them!

no one has mentioned macho man prior to your post. maybe it's about you trying to portray it that way, instead of the rest of us. and it's quaint that you think removing a killers access to high powered rifles or pistols will solve the problem - again, look at mexico. gun bans, highly restrictive ownership, and what could possibly be the problem now down there?

simple logic indeed, yet it evades you like morality does a crack ho.

Like I implied-

When gang-bangers start using their wheels to ram into people drive-by style, then we'll talk about your example making some sense.

Also like I told you- México has it gun problem directly related to their cartels being able to buy weapons up here.

Funny you mention morality, using emotive excuses to FAIL at rationalizing a right to bear arms against a non-existent government and social plot to take all of your guns away while ignoring the criminals having access to the same weaponry you might have at home. Morality indeed.

you carry on about gang bangers doing drive bys like it happens every hour. is chicago obamaland that bad, really?

need i add that a car can take out more people quicker on the street than some yoyo with a pistol?

mexico may get it's guns from the usa, but if you'd read matt's link, you'd see who the real culprit is.

just keep on with your fail this and fail that. it's apparently what you've majored in when it comes to the topic of guns. while you may not mind abdicating your constitutional rights, some of us do mind because we see the slippery slope it will lead to. too bad you're blind, oblivious, or both to that.

Your demise (FAIL) comes from oversimplifying the issue to one 'culprit.'

You're also skipping out on my posts where I quite clearly say that not all guns need to be banned. So try again.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

"I don't have sympathy but PM me anyway to talk about it"

Are you for real?

an analytical perspective is indication that the psyche has recovered from the damage inflicted by the trauma. maybe someday you'll get there. hal appears unready, as well.

Perhaps. Or its an indication that you're a sociopath.

after expressing a genuine concern and willingness to help another? after revealing a difficult experience in my past for the benefit of another? that was an unwarranted cheap shot.

I think it was the "I don't have sympathy" part.

One can be analytical and yet feel sorry for someone elses loss.

For example, doctors.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

You don't have to think about it very hard to realise what a terrible, impractical murder weapon a car would be.

Cars have been used by suicide bombers quite a few times.

I'm sure. But the car on its own is an inherently impractical weapon.

A gun on its own can't kill anyone either. You gotta have bullets in it. And you have to point it at a deserving douchebag.

A car, similarly, must be rigged with explosives and then driven into something.

That's a faulty comparison IMO.

The gun is useless without bullets.

The car is useless without gasoline, a battery or keys.

So keys are as deadly as a bullet.

No not at all. Trying to relativise a car as being as dangerous a weapon as a gun is kinda silly.

[Danno 1,228]

It's interesting and telling.... the long list of ills , the AWB is supposed to solve.

High caliber

Suicide

Crime

Domestic murder

And ya wanna know why we don't trust that you only are focused on "military-style" rifles.

We have seen the play-book before.

[HAL 9000 96]

You don't have to think about it very hard to realise what a terrible, impractical murder weapon a car would be.

Cars have been used by suicide bombers quite a few times.

I'm sure. But the car on its own is an inherently impractical weapon.

A gun on its own can't kill anyone either. You gotta have bullets in it. And you have to point it at a deserving douchebag.

A car, similarly, must be rigged with explosives and then driven into something.

That's a faulty comparison IMO.

The gun is useless without bullets.

The car is useless without gasoline, a battery or keys.

So keys are as deadly as a bullet.

No not at all. Trying to relativise a car as being as dangerous a weapon as a gun is kinda silly.

And a logic slope that is laughably slippery.

It's interesting and telling.... the long list of ills , the AWB is supposed to solve.

High caliber

Suicide

Crime

Domestic murder

And ya wanna know why we don't trust that you only are focused on "military-style" rifles.

We have seen the play-book before.

No, you're seeing what you want to see.

What IS the AWB supposed to solve? Its a tool to reduce gun violence. That's all. Move on.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

You don't have to think about it very hard to realise what a terrible, impractical murder weapon a car would be.

Cars have been used by suicide bombers quite a few times.

I'm sure. But the car on its own is an inherently impractical weapon.

A gun on its own can't kill anyone either. You gotta have bullets in it. And you have to point it at a deserving douchebag.

A car, similarly, must be rigged with explosives and then driven into something.

That's a faulty comparison IMO.

The gun is useless without bullets.

The car is useless without gasoline, a battery or keys.

So keys are as deadly as a bullet.

No not at all. Trying to relativise a car as being as dangerous a weapon as a gun is kinda silly.

I was being sarcastic.

[*Robert* 2]

I was being sarcastic.

How dare you!!! There's no sarcasm allowed when talking about gun control!!!

[HAL 9000 96]

That's it. How many are in with me? Weekend running over deer and other game?

[justashooter 430]

I think it was the "I don't have sympathy" part.

One can be analytical and yet feel sorry for someone elses loss.

For example, doctors.

one can also be analytical in sympathy, rather than merely sympathetic. the difference is that the analytical approach identifies the axis 3 presentation and allows the root issue to be addressed. sympathy just pushes the pig deeper into the wallow.

[*Robert* 2]

That's it. How many are in with me? Weekend running over deer and other game?

I'll go!!!

I just love fresh road kill!!!

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

That's it. How many are in with me? Weekend running over deer and other game?

It seems to work well on Grand Theft Auto 4. But then again - the cops in that are spectacularly inept, and the main character can survive a shotgun blast a close range without a vest.

If I didn't know better I'd say it isn't exactly realistic

I think it was the "I don't have sympathy" part.

One can be analytical and yet feel sorry for someone elses loss.

For example, doctors.

one can also be analytical in sympathy, rather than merely sympathetic. the difference is that the analytical approach identifies the axis 3 presentation and allows the root issue to be addressed. sympathy just pushes the pig deeper into the wallow.

Do you seriously talk like this in real life?