Feinstein: Keep solar/wind energy facilities out of Mojave Desert

[Peikko 1,575]

I'm not certain, but I was under the impression that all that was being asked was that a portion of the desert was allowed to remain unsullied by human presence (always disruptive of wildlife) so that the desert fauna and flora have a chance to survive, diversity of species and all that. Seems sensible to me, and even more sensible to leave the portion of the desert that was donated for that purpose to be used for that purpose. Lot's a fuss over nothing, which even reading the article tells you

[Danno 1,228]

There seems to be a clash among the "Greens" on wind-power.

While in principle they are all for it, in practice not.

As it so happens, one cannot just place the "wind farms" just anywhere they are only suited to certain places, too often those places are located where Green folks do not want them.

For example how many people along the shore line would want hundreds of these things in front of there beach home or in the bay>

Along the Apalach. Mountains some "environmentalists" fought tooth and nail to prevent these eye sores from destroying the mountain top View.

Even the Soon expired Sen. Kennedy stood in the way of some in his neck of the woods too.

[HAL 9000 96]

what about the desert birds/

#### the desert birds. If they can't fly away they deserve to be mincemeat. J/K

I wish turbines this big could be shielded by a giant screen or something without cutting down on the turbine's efficiency. Save the birdies too.

[Peikko 1,575]

There seems to be a clash among the "Greens" on wind-power.

While in principle they are all for it, in practice not.

As it so happens, one cannot just place the "wind farms" just anywhere they are only suited to certain places, too often those places are located where Green folks do not want them.

For example how many people along the shore line would want hundreds of these things in front of there beach home or in the bay>

Along the Apalach. Mountains some "environmentalists" fought tooth and nail to prevent these eye sores from destroying the mountain top View.

Even the Soon expired Sen. Kennedy stood in the way of some in his neck of the woods too.

That's what comes with lumping everyone together as 'green' or 'environmentalist', you find the world doesn't make sense. Who knew?

Here's a helpful pointer, lumping everyone who doesn't agree with your point of view as 'librul' causes similar dysfunction.

Edited March 23, 2009 by Madame Cleo

[HAL 9000 96]

Just show them the price tag difference between traditional energy costs vs more green energy costs once the systems are matured beyond startup. Enough said.

[Ban Hammer 14,269]

what about the desert birds/

#### the desert birds. If they can't fly away they deserve to be mincemeat. J/K

I wish turbines this big could be shielded by a giant screen or something without cutting down on the turbine's efficiency. Save the birdies too.

those solar cells can also provide shade for the turtles

[HAL 9000 96]

what about the desert birds/

#### the desert birds. If they can't fly away they deserve to be mincemeat. J/K

I wish turbines this big could be shielded by a giant screen or something without cutting down on the turbine's efficiency. Save the birdies too.

those solar cells can also provide shade for the turtles

Turtles FTW.

[almaty 19]

and desert birds...

[NickD 203]

what about the desert birds/

#### the desert birds. If they can't fly away they deserve to be mincemeat. J/K

I wish turbines this big could be shielded by a giant screen or something without cutting down on the turbine's efficiency. Save the birdies too.

Should also outlaw windows, seem to have a couple of birds or more per year try to fly though my closed patio doors or through the front picture window. But yet many birds are aware of the presence. Maybe only the dumb birds are killing themselves, or the old ones going blind. Vehicles are yet another hazard to birds, should outlaw those too.

[HAL 9000 96]

what about the desert birds/

#### the desert birds. If they can't fly away they deserve to be mincemeat. J/K

I wish turbines this big could be shielded by a giant screen or something without cutting down on the turbine's efficiency. Save the birdies too.

Should also outlaw windows, seem to have a couple of birds or more per year try to fly though my closed patio doors or through the front picture window. But yet many birds are aware of the presence. Maybe only the dumb birds are killing themselves, or the old ones going blind. Vehicles are yet another hazard to birds, should outlaw those too.

What about that rain-x stuff that makes your car glass seem absent? Poor birdies.

To be honest maybe we can engineer more flexible, absorbent window material that would not kill birdies flying at full speed at glass. Maybe just stun them a bit.

[Peikko 1,575]

Marilyn posted something regarding birdproofing glass, I am sure of it. I don't remember the details now, but it was an excellent idea, it seemed at the time anyway

[HAL 9000 96]

Marilyn posted something regarding birdproofing glass, I am sure of it. I don't remember the details now, but it was an excellent idea, it seemed at the time anyway

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

I see Steven avoided this thread.

[Peikko 1,575]

Marilyn posted something regarding birdproofing glass, I am sure of it. I don't remember the details now, but it was an excellent idea, it seemed at the time anyway

That's really cute

[almaty 19]

what about the desert birds/

#### the desert birds. If they can't fly away they deserve to be mincemeat. J/K

I wish turbines this big could be shielded by a giant screen or something without cutting down on the turbine's efficiency. Save the birdies too.

Should also outlaw windows, seem to have a couple of birds or more per year try to fly though my closed patio doors or through the front picture window. But yet many birds are aware of the presence. Maybe only the dumb birds are killing themselves, or the old ones going blind. Vehicles are yet another hazard to birds, should outlaw those too.

yes to all..