proof of ongoing relationship??

[EZ3145 0]

sorry folks if I keep coming back with more questions. I Just can't do it without your help folks.

here's a simple one I think.

Do I really need to include a proof of ongoing relationship when I'm mailing the I-129f

I just currently don't have that since I've been communicating with my fiancee using a prepaid calling card I buy from www.ctacard.com

Also:

Do I really need to attach a separate sheet of paper explaining how I met my fiancee within the last two years?

I just think there's enough space on the I-129f. I just returned last month from Ghana were we're both from.

How do I need a separate sheet of paper to explain how we met. Just a bit confused there. please help.

[Zee Bee 61]

sorry folks if I keep coming back with more questions. I Just can't do it without your help folks.

here's a simple one I think.

Do I really need to include a proof of ongoing relationship when I'm mailing the I-129f

I just currently don't have that since I've been communicating with my fiancee using a prepaid calling card I buy from www.ctacard.com We included a few e-mails and call logs. We saved the bulk of it for the interview.

Also:

Do I really need to attach a separate sheet of paper explaining how I met my fiancee within the last two years?

I just think there's enough space on the I-129f. I just returned last month from Ghana were we're both from.

How do I need a separate sheet of paper to explain how we met. Just a bit confused there. please help. Ours was just a few lines that fit into the space on the I-129F. When, where, how we met and who introduced us. No love story.

[EZ3145 0]

sorry folks if I keep coming back with more questions. I Just can't do it without your help folks.

here's a simple one I think.

Do I really need to include a proof of ongoing relationship when I'm mailing the I-129f

I just currently don't have that since I've been communicating with my fiancee using a prepaid calling card I buy from www.ctacard.com

Also:

Do I really need to attach a separate sheet of paper explaining how I met my fiancee within the last two years?

I just think there's enough space on the I-129f. I just returned last month from Ghana were we're both from.

How do I need a separate sheet of paper to explain how we met. Just a bit confused there. please help.

I do appreciate your response Zee Bee. Thanks!

I call my fiancee with a prepaid calling card I buy online. I really have no idea how to get call logs from those calls. Any thoughts??

[Zee Bee 61]

Proof of an ongoing relationship is not required for the petition so I would not worry about getting the call logs now.

I'm not sure how you can get call logs for your calling card. You may want to call their customer service number and see what they can do. I use www.pingo.com and I can print my call logs at any time.

[tallcoolone 102]

How do I need a separate sheet of paper to explain how we met. Just a bit confused there. please help.

As Zee Bee said.

Just state the facts and don't do a love story.

Mine was short and to the point and was able to fit into the box on the application.

[TBoneTX 47,085]

I respectfully differ. Because Ghana is known as an EXTREMELY high-fraud country, I would front-load your I-129F application with an amount of "proof of relationship" information that would convince a reasonable person of the validity of your relationship. This is because some consulates (or consular officials) will refuse to look at such evidence when it is brought to the interview. If the evidence is in the package that the consulate receives from USCIS, the consuls cannot ignore it or say that it does not exist. The extra information will not matter to USCIS, and you can freshen the evidence and add to it when the interview occurs. Also, plan and budget now to attend the interview with your fiance(e).

None of the above is to contradict the wise Zee, but it is prudent to consider.

[Dakine 26]

I respectfully differ. Because Ghana is known as an EXTREMELY high-fraud country, I would front-load your I-129F application with an amount of "proof of relationship" information that would convince a reasonable person of the validity of your relationship. This is because some consulates (or consular officials) will refuse to look at such evidence when it is brought to the interview. If the evidence is in the package that the consulate receives from USCIS, the consuls cannot ignore it or say that it does not exist. The extra information will not matter to USCIS, and you can freshen the evidence and add to it when the interview occurs. Also, plan and budget now to attend the interview with your fiance(e).

None of the above is to contradict the wise Zee, but it is prudent to consider.

I agree with Tbone! Different embassy's require different "attacks". In this case 'more ammo the better".

OP should also use a communication system he can have a GOOD record of. It's worth the dough to get a long distance carrier like AT+T. Use them for daily short calls and cards for the long ones.

[tenderheartusa79 14]

I respectfully differ. Because Ghana is known as an EXTREMELY high-fraud country, I would front-load your I-129F application with an amount of "proof of relationship" information that would convince a reasonable person of the validity of your relationship. This is because some consulates (or consular officials) will refuse to look at such evidence when it is brought to the interview. If the evidence is in the package that the consulate receives from USCIS, the consuls cannot ignore it or say that it does not exist. The extra information will not matter to USCIS, and you can freshen the evidence and add to it when the interview occurs. Also, plan and budget now to attend the interview with your fiance(e).

None of the above is to contradict the wise Zee, but it is prudent to consider.

i agree

[Zee Bee 61]

I respectfully differ. Because Ghana is known as an EXTREMELY high-fraud country, I would front-load your I-129F application with an amount of "proof of relationship" information that would convince a reasonable person of the validity of your relationship. This is because some consulates (or consular officials) will refuse to look at such evidence when it is brought to the interview. If the evidence is in the package that the consulate receives from USCIS, the consuls cannot ignore it or say that it does not exist. The extra information will not matter to USCIS, and you can freshen the evidence and add to it when the interview occurs. Also, plan and budget now to attend the interview with your fiance(e).

None of the above is to contradict the wise Zee, but it is prudent to consider.

The history of the Ghana embassy actually proves otherwise. Unlike other places they do spend time scrutinizing evidence that is brought to the interview and it seems that no matter how much evidence is brought to the interview they want more. When we went we were told that we were told that we had an "overwhelming" amount of evidence, but they still wanted more.

IMHO, from what I have read, and what others have gone through, I would save all the evidence for the interview.

[TBoneTX 47,085]

The history of the Ghana embassy actually proves otherwise. [...]

This is why I was hesitant to suggest anything to contradict the excellent Zee's first-hand knowledge. I gently suggest considering the inclusion of some relationship-proof evidence in the I-129F filing, if for no other reasons than these: Doing so will show (to the embassy) some initiative on the filer's part; and policies & personnel at embassies can change without notice, in which case the filer may be very glad that he included the evidence at first. Including some evidence now may not matter at all, in the end, but it cannot hurt and could help.

[Zee Bee 61]

The history of the Ghana embassy actually proves otherwise. [...]

This is why I was hesitant to suggest anything to contradict the excellent Zee's first-hand knowledge. I gently suggest considering the inclusion of some relationship-proof evidence in the I-129F filing, if for no other reasons than these: Doing so will show (to the embassy) some initiative on the filer's part; and policies & personnel at embassies can change without notice, in which case the filer may be very glad that he included the evidence at first. Including some evidence now may not matter at all, in the end, but it cannot hurt and could help.

Its true that adding the proof of relationship cannot hurt. I just think that the OP needs to think about what proof they can provide and make sure that the bulk of it is kept for the interview. Sometimes Ghana embassy can be with relationship proof.

[TBoneTX 47,085]

I just think that the OP needs to think about what proof they can provide and make sure that the bulk of it is kept for the interview. Sometimes Ghana embassy can be with relationship proof.

And insights like this are exactly why the wise Zee should be listened to, si man! Also, not sure if the OP received an answer about how to capture the phone records; if someone here knows, cool; if not, maybe the information can be learned from the website or tech-support department of the company that provides the phone cards.

[FCH 1]

my fiance filled out the I-129F's "how you met" with just a few sentences. and sent some reasonable amount of photos to back that up. but they mailed us an RFE saying they needed more. and that RFE gave us a dreadful 2 months delay, missing our christmas plans together.

so as the other poster said over here - the more ammo, the better.

we sent back tons of pics. tons of photocopies of anything and everything about our relationship. and sure enough we got the approval in days.

when i got to the interview, i had about the same stack of evidence to present them. the officer at the embassy compared from folder to folder - the copies we sent USCIS and the copies i had on hand at the embassy interview.

it is a case to case basis though, the philippines being high fraud too. who knows, you just might breeze through the NOA2.

but then again, the more ammo, the better. no wants an RFE.

and those are my two cents on this.

uhm make that four. good luck!

Edited January 14, 2009 by PrettyFlower