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Filed: Country: India
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I was reading the other topic related to this and I know each circumstance is somewhat unique, though somewhat the same. Reading the other topic just got me curious. I know no one on here will have a definitive answer, but I am seeking opinions on this. I will be starting our K-1 process in a few months and I like to have as much information as I can before I start anything major, and this is by far the most major thing I've ever been involved in. So I do really appreciate and value insight and opinions on this matter, especially from those of you who have been through this part already. I'm concerned about how much evidence to send in. Currently, this is what I have:

4-9 hours of phone calls each and every day for 8 months all logged and traced by a third party service

Consistent emails between us dating back over a year

Online instant messaging archives and recorded sound files to accompany them

Snail mail letters from me to him and some to his family members as well as mail from him to me and some of my family members

Gifts from me to him and family members as well as from him to me

Proof of involvement with my family members including a business he is starting with my brother before he gets here (not enough to qual. for that kind of visa though).

I am visiting next month and I will be spending time with his immediate and extended family. We will be staying at several relatives houses throughout the visit and we will be visiting several destinations. We will also have our ring ceremony (he's Hindu). That visit will add the following to the proof I send in:

pictures of us

pictures of me and his family

receipt for the ring

Is there anything else I could get as proof now or while on the trip? And are those kinds of proof from before my trip even valuable to the filing process? I talk to his parents also (in their native language) but I have no real way of proving that because I've either talked to them on his phone, or when I call their phones the conversations are brief. I do have records of the calls though. Does the exchange of gifts now between myself and his family members bear any weight? Another question is whether or not video files we share now (sending over email) are worth anything? I have video and sound files of him professing his love to me in his native language and though they are very personal, I would gladly send them if I thought they would help. And my last question, do personal references as proof of the relationship matter? What I mean is can we obtain letters from friends and/or family who have been aware of our relationship and know about us and send that to or would it be a waste of time?

Thank you all so much in advance!

January 2009 - K-1 Denied by the consulate

January 2011 - Moved to India - Yikes!

October 2011 - DCF filing rejected by overzealous employee at the embassy

December 2011 - Tourist visa denied (not surprising)

March 2012 - CR1/IR1 process started

May 1, 2012 - RFE and some of our information was entered into the computer wrong by the CSC

Read about all the shenanigans of my relationship at American Punjaban PI

Filed: Other Country: China
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I was reading the other topic related to this and I know each circumstance is somewhat unique, though somewhat the same. Reading the other topic just got me curious. I know no one on here will have a definitive answer, but I am seeking opinions on this. I will be starting our K-1 process in a few months and I like to have as much information as I can before I start anything major, and this is by far the most major thing I've ever been involved in. So I do really appreciate and value insight and opinions on this matter, especially from those of you who have been through this part already. I'm concerned about how much evidence to send in. Currently, this is what I have:

4-9 hours of phone calls each and every day for 8 months all logged and traced by a third party service

Consistent emails between us dating back over a year

Online instant messaging archives and recorded sound files to accompany them

Snail mail letters from me to him and some to his family members as well as mail from him to me and some of my family members

Gifts from me to him and family members as well as from him to me

Proof of involvement with my family members including a business he is starting with my brother before he gets here (not enough to qual. for that kind of visa though).

I am visiting next month and I will be spending time with his immediate and extended family. We will be staying at several relatives houses throughout the visit and we will be visiting several destinations. We will also have our ring ceremony (he's Hindu). That visit will add the following to the proof I send in:

pictures of us

pictures of me and his family

receipt for the ring

Is there anything else I could get as proof now or while on the trip? And are those kinds of proof from before my trip even valuable to the filing process? I talk to his parents also (in their native language) but I have no real way of proving that because I've either talked to them on his phone, or when I call their phones the conversations are brief. I do have records of the calls though. Does the exchange of gifts now between myself and his family members bear any weight? Another question is whether or not video files we share now (sending over email) are worth anything? I have video and sound files of him professing his love to me in his native language and though they are very personal, I would gladly send them if I thought they would help. And my last question, do personal references as proof of the relationship matter? What I mean is can we obtain letters from friends and/or family who have been aware of our relationship and know about us and send that to or would it be a waste of time?

Thank you all so much in advance!

In most cases (unless there are obvious red flags to address) you can save your evidence of bona fides for the interview. At the petition stage you provide evidence you met in person during two years preceding the filing.

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Understanding the big picture is priceless. Anonymous

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: China
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I was reading the other topic related to this and I know each circumstance is somewhat unique, though somewhat the same. Reading the other topic just got me curious. I know no one on here will have a definitive answer, but I am seeking opinions on this. I will be starting our K-1 process in a few months and I like to have as much information as I can before I start anything major, and this is by far the most major thing I've ever been involved in. So I do really appreciate and value insight and opinions on this matter, especially from those of you who have been through this part already. I'm concerned about how much evidence to send in. Currently, this is what I have:

4-9 hours of phone calls each and every day for 8 months all logged and traced by a third party service

Consistent emails between us dating back over a year

Online instant messaging archives and recorded sound files to accompany them

Snail mail letters from me to him and some to his family members as well as mail from him to me and some of my family members

Gifts from me to him and family members as well as from him to me

Proof of involvement with my family members including a business he is starting with my brother before he gets here (not enough to qual. for that kind of visa though).

I am visiting next month and I will be spending time with his immediate and extended family. We will be staying at several relatives houses throughout the visit and we will be visiting several destinations. We will also have our ring ceremony (he's Hindu). That visit will add the following to the proof I send in:

pictures of us

pictures of me and his family

receipt for the ring

Is there anything else I could get as proof now or while on the trip? And are those kinds of proof from before my trip even valuable to the filing process? I talk to his parents also (in their native language) but I have no real way of proving that because I've either talked to them on his phone, or when I call their phones the conversations are brief. I do have records of the calls though. Does the exchange of gifts now between myself and his family members bear any weight? Another question is whether or not video files we share now (sending over email) are worth anything? I have video and sound files of him professing his love to me in his native language and though they are very personal, I would gladly send them if I thought they would help. And my last question, do personal references as proof of the relationship matter? What I mean is can we obtain letters from friends and/or family who have been aware of our relationship and know about us and send that to or would it be a waste of time?

Thank you all so much in advance!

Here is my take on a bonafide relation, I would think if you go for your interview and you do not know the name or country of your petitioner , that might be cause for a non-bonafide relation, anything else is a shell game by the Consulates no matter how many pictures, phone calls, emails, trips that are made that you provide. If you do receive a non-bonafide white slip citing INA Section 5A for a non-bonafie relationship try and find Section 5A of the INA.

Time goes by..

Filed: Other Country: China
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I was reading the other topic related to this and I know each circumstance is somewhat unique, though somewhat the same. Reading the other topic just got me curious. I know no one on here will have a definitive answer, but I am seeking opinions on this. I will be starting our K-1 process in a few months and I like to have as much information as I can before I start anything major, and this is by far the most major thing I've ever been involved in. So I do really appreciate and value insight and opinions on this matter, especially from those of you who have been through this part already. I'm concerned about how much evidence to send in. Currently, this is what I have:

4-9 hours of phone calls each and every day for 8 months all logged and traced by a third party service

Consistent emails between us dating back over a year

Online instant messaging archives and recorded sound files to accompany them

Snail mail letters from me to him and some to his family members as well as mail from him to me and some of my family members

Gifts from me to him and family members as well as from him to me

Proof of involvement with my family members including a business he is starting with my brother before he gets here (not enough to qual. for that kind of visa though).

I am visiting next month and I will be spending time with his immediate and extended family. We will be staying at several relatives houses throughout the visit and we will be visiting several destinations. We will also have our ring ceremony (he's Hindu). That visit will add the following to the proof I send in:

pictures of us

pictures of me and his family

receipt for the ring

Is there anything else I could get as proof now or while on the trip? And are those kinds of proof from before my trip even valuable to the filing process? I talk to his parents also (in their native language) but I have no real way of proving that because I've either talked to them on his phone, or when I call their phones the conversations are brief. I do have records of the calls though. Does the exchange of gifts now between myself and his family members bear any weight? Another question is whether or not video files we share now (sending over email) are worth anything? I have video and sound files of him professing his love to me in his native language and though they are very personal, I would gladly send them if I thought they would help. And my last question, do personal references as proof of the relationship matter? What I mean is can we obtain letters from friends and/or family who have been aware of our relationship and know about us and send that to or would it be a waste of time?

Thank you all so much in advance!

Here is my take on a bonafide relation, I would think if you go for your interview and you do not know the name or country of your petitioner , that might be cause for a non-bonafide relation, anything else is a shell game by the Consulates no matter how many pictures, phone calls, emails, trips that are made that you provide. If you do receive a non-bonafide white slip citing INA Section 5A for a non-bonafie relationship try and find Section 5A of the INA.

I find that for the immigration process, dwelling on or debating what "should be" is a waste of effort, since success or failure will be determined by how things actually are. I understand your bitterness but until you are ready to see things as they are, you won't be of any help to yourself or anybody else.

Facts are cheap...knowing how to use them is precious...
Understanding the big picture is priceless. Anonymous

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ukraine
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I was reading the other topic related to this and I know each circumstance is somewhat unique, though somewhat the same. Reading the other topic just got me curious. I know no one on here will have a definitive answer, but I am seeking opinions on this. I will be starting our K-1 process in a few months and I like to have as much information as I can before I start anything major, and this is by far the most major thing I've ever been involved in. So I do really appreciate and value insight and opinions on this matter, especially from those of you who have been through this part already. I'm concerned about how much evidence to send in. Currently, this is what I have:

4-9 hours of phone calls each and every day for 8 months all logged and traced by a third party service

Consistent emails between us dating back over a year

Online instant messaging archives and recorded sound files to accompany them

Snail mail letters from me to him and some to his family members as well as mail from him to me and some of my family members

Gifts from me to him and family members as well as from him to me

Proof of involvement with my family members including a business he is starting with my brother before he gets here (not enough to qual. for that kind of visa though).

I am visiting next month and I will be spending time with his immediate and extended family. We will be staying at several relatives houses throughout the visit and we will be visiting several destinations. We will also have our ring ceremony (he's Hindu). That visit will add the following to the proof I send in:

pictures of us

pictures of me and his family

receipt for the ring

Is there anything else I could get as proof now or while on the trip? And are those kinds of proof from before my trip even valuable to the filing process? I talk to his parents also (in their native language) but I have no real way of proving that because I've either talked to them on his phone, or when I call their phones the conversations are brief. I do have records of the calls though. Does the exchange of gifts now between myself and his family members bear any weight? Another question is whether or not video files we share now (sending over email) are worth anything? I have video and sound files of him professing his love to me in his native language and though they are very personal, I would gladly send them if I thought they would help. And my last question, do personal references as proof of the relationship matter? What I mean is can we obtain letters from friends and/or family who have been aware of our relationship and know about us and send that to or would it be a waste of time?

Thank you all so much in advance!

Here is my take on a bonafide relation, I would think if you go for your interview and you do not know the name or country of your petitioner , that might be cause for a non-bonafide relation, anything else is a shell game by the Consulates no matter how many pictures, phone calls, emails, trips that are made that you provide. If you do receive a non-bonafide white slip citing INA Section 5A for a non-bonafie relationship try and find Section 5A of the INA.

Different consulates treat this in different ways, specific to the country they operate in and the requirements of that country or the number of "problems" the US consulate has had with applications, I do not know how to explain it better. We went through the consulate in Kiev and it was VERY simple. All of what you have is good, except the part about forming a business which doesn't matter a whit and doesn't prove anything.

To the interview I brought email logs, sample emails, phone bills, travel documentation and receipts, western union receipts, gift receipts, you name it. They asked to look at exactly FOUR photos and that is all. Best to "have enough gun" as they say and I do not regret shlepping all the documents to Kiev but it wasn't needed.

You don't need any of this for the I-129. For the petition (I-129) just some proof you have a met with a description and even one photo together and you are good to go. The rest can be saved for the interview. By the way, it doesn't matter where the photo was taken, it matters that you were together within the last two years. My wife is from Ukraine but I sent a photo of us together in Prague for the "proof of meeting" and there was really nothing in the photo that would identify WHERE it was taken. Our visa was approved without RFEs in 61 days.

Gary

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Filed: Other Country: China
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I was reading the other topic related to this and I know each circumstance is somewhat unique, though somewhat the same. Reading the other topic just got me curious. I know no one on here will have a definitive answer, but I am seeking opinions on this. I will be starting our K-1 process in a few months and I like to have as much information as I can before I start anything major, and this is by far the most major thing I've ever been involved in. So I do really appreciate and value insight and opinions on this matter, especially from those of you who have been through this part already. I'm concerned about how much evidence to send in. Currently, this is what I have:

4-9 hours of phone calls each and every day for 8 months all logged and traced by a third party service

Consistent emails between us dating back over a year

Online instant messaging archives and recorded sound files to accompany them

Snail mail letters from me to him and some to his family members as well as mail from him to me and some of my family members

Gifts from me to him and family members as well as from him to me

Proof of involvement with my family members including a business he is starting with my brother before he gets here (not enough to qual. for that kind of visa though).

I am visiting next month and I will be spending time with his immediate and extended family. We will be staying at several relatives houses throughout the visit and we will be visiting several destinations. We will also have our ring ceremony (he's Hindu). That visit will add the following to the proof I send in:

pictures of us

pictures of me and his family

receipt for the ring

Is there anything else I could get as proof now or while on the trip? And are those kinds of proof from before my trip even valuable to the filing process? I talk to his parents also (in their native language) but I have no real way of proving that because I've either talked to them on his phone, or when I call their phones the conversations are brief. I do have records of the calls though. Does the exchange of gifts now between myself and his family members bear any weight? Another question is whether or not video files we share now (sending over email) are worth anything? I have video and sound files of him professing his love to me in his native language and though they are very personal, I would gladly send them if I thought they would help. And my last question, do personal references as proof of the relationship matter? What I mean is can we obtain letters from friends and/or family who have been aware of our relationship and know about us and send that to or would it be a waste of time?

Thank you all so much in advance!

Here is my take on a bonafide relation, I would think if you go for your interview and you do not know the name or country of your petitioner , that might be cause for a non-bonafide relation, anything else is a shell game by the Consulates no matter how many pictures, phone calls, emails, trips that are made that you provide. If you do receive a non-bonafide white slip citing INA Section 5A for a non-bonafie relationship try and find Section 5A of the INA.

Different consulates treat this in different ways, specific to the country they operate in and the requirements of that country or the number of "problems" the US consulate has had with applications, I do not know how to explain it better. We went through the consulate in Kiev and it was VERY simple. All of what you have is good, except the part about forming a business which doesn't matter a whit and doesn't prove anything.

To the interview I brought email logs, sample emails, phone bills, travel documentation and receipts, western union receipts, gift receipts, you name it. They asked to look at exactly FOUR photos and that is all. Best to "have enough gun" as they say and I do not regret shlepping all the documents to Kiev but it wasn't needed.

You don't need any of this for the I-129. For the petition (I-129) just some proof you have a met with a description and even one photo together and you are good to go. The rest can be saved for the interview. By the way, it doesn't matter where the photo was taken, it matters that you were together within the last two years. My wife is from Ukraine but I sent a photo of us together in Prague for the "proof of meeting" and there was really nothing in the photo that would identify WHERE it was taken. Our visa was approved without RFEs in 61 days.

Gary

Just a couple key corrections. It's an I-129F petition, not I-129. Your timeline indicates it was nearly 5 months from petition filing to visa, not 61 days. All reports from Kiev seem to indicate it's one of the easiest Consulates, right on a par with London.

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (pnd) Country: India
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Please spend a little time looking at what has happened to petitioners going thru the Indian Consulates.

There may be an arguement to front load the petition with as much relationship evidence as possible. If you look in the Administrative Processing forum, you'll see current cases thru New Delhi that are having issues currently with proof of relationship issues. Additionally, there have recently been issues in Mumbai Consulate - COs looking for receipts of receptions that haven't even occured yet [you may want to search in the embassy forum - I stink at adding links otherwise I would].

Finally, one of the members who went thru Chennai [i believe] had a CO that believed his engagement ceremony was in fact a wedding even though it was only an engagement without the specific rituals needed to make it a wedding - their K1 was denied claiming it was a wedding.....

All of the Indian consulates are tough - but many people get thru too.

Please know that any recorded media like cds or dvds or electronic files are not accepted by either USCIS or the Consulates.

Something I wished I had the opportunity to do was attend the interview - I would highly highly highly recommend this!

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: China
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Here is my take on a bonafide relation, I would think if you go for your interview and you do not know the name or country of your petitioner , that might be cause for a non-bonafide relation, anything else is a shell game by the Consulates no matter how many pictures, phone calls, emails, trips that are made that you provide. If you do receive a non-bonafide white slip citing INA Section 5A for a non-bonafie relationship try and find Section 5A of the INA.

I find that for the immigration process, dwelling on or debating what "should be" is a waste of effort, since success or failure will be determined by how things actually are. I understand your bitterness but until you are ready to see things as they are, you won't be of any help to yourself or anybody else.

Excuse me, but please do not qualify my post, with how you believe I feel, I do not want to to "flame" you neither do I want you to "flame" me. You put your thoughts I put mine, OK? In the mean time if you can fine the Section in INA 212 Section 5A that refers to a bona-fide relation, post your findings for all of us. In the meantime I will continue to believe that these Consulates are committing fraud against the petitioners that they use this Section 5A excuse against.

Time goes by..

Filed: Country: United Kingdom
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I was reading the other topic related to this and I know each circumstance is somewhat unique, though somewhat the same. Reading the other topic just got me curious. I know no one on here will have a definitive answer, but I am seeking opinions on this. I will be starting our K-1 process in a few months and I like to have as much information as I can before I start anything major, and this is by far the most major thing I've ever been involved in. So I do really appreciate and value insight and opinions on this matter, especially from those of you who have been through this part already. I'm concerned about how much evidence to send in. Currently, this is what I have:

4-9 hours of phone calls each and every day for 8 months all logged and traced by a third party service

Consistent emails between us dating back over a year

Online instant messaging archives and recorded sound files to accompany them

Snail mail letters from me to him and some to his family members as well as mail from him to me and some of my family members

Gifts from me to him and family members as well as from him to me

Proof of involvement with my family members including a business he is starting with my brother before he gets here (not enough to qual. for that kind of visa though).

I am visiting next month and I will be spending time with his immediate and extended family. We will be staying at several relatives houses throughout the visit and we will be visiting several destinations. We will also have our ring ceremony (he's Hindu). That visit will add the following to the proof I send in:

pictures of us

pictures of me and his family

receipt for the ring

Is there anything else I could get as proof now or while on the trip? And are those kinds of proof from before my trip even valuable to the filing process? I talk to his parents also (in their native language) but I have no real way of proving that because I've either talked to them on his phone, or when I call their phones the conversations are brief. I do have records of the calls though. Does the exchange of gifts now between myself and his family members bear any weight? Another question is whether or not video files we share now (sending over email) are worth anything? I have video and sound files of him professing his love to me in his native language and though they are very personal, I would gladly send them if I thought they would help. And my last question, do personal references as proof of the relationship matter? What I mean is can we obtain letters from friends and/or family who have been aware of our relationship and know about us and send that to or would it be a waste of time?

Thank you all so much in advance!

If you go to this part of the guides here on VJ http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...mp;page=k1guide and then scroll down to 'Documentary Proof of Having Met in Person in the Past Two Years and an Ongoing Relationship:' it will give you most of the info you need.

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: China
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I was reading the other topic related to this and I know each circumstance is somewhat unique, though somewhat the same. Reading the other topic just got me curious. I know no one on here will have a definitive answer, but I am seeking opinions on this. I will be starting our K-1 process in a few months and I like to have as much information as I can before I start anything major, and this is by far the most major thing I've ever been involved in. So I do really appreciate and value insight and opinions on this matter, especially from those of you who have been through this part already. I'm concerned about how much evidence to send in. Currently, this is what I have:

4-9 hours of phone calls each and every day for 8 months all logged and traced by a third party service

Consistent emails between us dating back over a year

Online instant messaging archives and recorded sound files to accompany them

Snail mail letters from me to him and some to his family members as well as mail from him to me and some of my family members

Gifts from me to him and family members as well as from him to me

Proof of involvement with my family members including a business he is starting with my brother before he gets here (not enough to qual. for that kind of visa though).

I am visiting next month and I will be spending time with his immediate and extended family. We will be staying at several relatives houses throughout the visit and we will be visiting several destinations. We will also have our ring ceremony (he's Hindu). That visit will add the following to the proof I send in:

pictures of us

pictures of me and his family

receipt for the ring

Is there anything else I could get as proof now or while on the trip? And are those kinds of proof from before my trip even valuable to the filing process? I talk to his parents also (in their native language) but I have no real way of proving that because I've either talked to them on his phone, or when I call their phones the conversations are brief. I do have records of the calls though. Does the exchange of gifts now between myself and his family members bear any weight? Another question is whether or not video files we share now (sending over email) are worth anything? I have video and sound files of him professing his love to me in his native language and though they are very personal, I would gladly send them if I thought they would help. And my last question, do personal references as proof of the relationship matter? What I mean is can we obtain letters from friends and/or family who have been aware of our relationship and know about us and send that to or would it be a waste of time?

Thank you all so much in advance!

Here is my take on a bonafide relation, I would think if you go for your interview and you do not know the name or country of your petitioner , that might be cause for a non-bonafide relation, anything else is a shell game by the Consulates no matter how many pictures, phone calls, emails, trips that are made that you provide. If you do receive a non-bonafide white slip citing INA Section 5A for a non-bonafie relationship try and find Section 5A of the INA.

I find that for the immigration process, dwelling on or debating what "should be" is a waste of effort, since success or failure will be determined by how things actually are. I understand your bitterness but until you are ready to see things as they are, you won't be of any help to yourself or anybody else.

Excuse me, but please do not qualify my post, with how you believe I feel, I do not want to to "flame" you neither do I want you to "flame" me. You put your thoughts I put mine, OK? In the mean time if you can fine the Section in INA 212 Section 5A that refers to a bona-fide relation, post your findings for all of us. In the meantime I will continue to believe that these Consulates are committing fraud against the petitioners that they use this Section 5A excuse against.

Time goes by..

Filed: Other Country: China
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I was reading the other topic related to this and I know each circumstance is somewhat unique, though somewhat the same. Reading the other topic just got me curious. I know no one on here will have a definitive answer, but I am seeking opinions on this. I will be starting our K-1 process in a few months and I like to have as much information as I can before I start anything major, and this is by far the most major thing I've ever been involved in. So I do really appreciate and value insight and opinions on this matter, especially from those of you who have been through this part already. I'm concerned about how much evidence to send in. Currently, this is what I have:

4-9 hours of phone calls each and every day for 8 months all logged and traced by a third party service

Consistent emails between us dating back over a year

Online instant messaging archives and recorded sound files to accompany them

Snail mail letters from me to him and some to his family members as well as mail from him to me and some of my family members

Gifts from me to him and family members as well as from him to me

Proof of involvement with my family members including a business he is starting with my brother before he gets here (not enough to qual. for that kind of visa though).

I am visiting next month and I will be spending time with his immediate and extended family. We will be staying at several relatives houses throughout the visit and we will be visiting several destinations. We will also have our ring ceremony (he's Hindu). That visit will add the following to the proof I send in:

pictures of us

pictures of me and his family

receipt for the ring

Is there anything else I could get as proof now or while on the trip? And are those kinds of proof from before my trip even valuable to the filing process? I talk to his parents also (in their native language) but I have no real way of proving that because I've either talked to them on his phone, or when I call their phones the conversations are brief. I do have records of the calls though. Does the exchange of gifts now between myself and his family members bear any weight? Another question is whether or not video files we share now (sending over email) are worth anything? I have video and sound files of him professing his love to me in his native language and though they are very personal, I would gladly send them if I thought they would help. And my last question, do personal references as proof of the relationship matter? What I mean is can we obtain letters from friends and/or family who have been aware of our relationship and know about us and send that to or would it be a waste of time?

Thank you all so much in advance!

Here is my take on a bonafide relation, I would think if you go for your interview and you do not know the name or country of your petitioner , that might be cause for a non-bonafide relation, anything else is a shell game by the Consulates no matter how many pictures, phone calls, emails, trips that are made that you provide. If you do receive a non-bonafide white slip citing INA Section 5A for a non-bonafie relationship try and find Section 5A of the INA.

I find that for the immigration process, dwelling on or debating what "should be" is a waste of effort, since success or failure will be determined by how things actually are. I understand your bitterness but until you are ready to see things as they are, you won't be of any help to yourself or anybody else.

Excuse me, but please do not qualify my post, with how you believe I feel, I do not want to to "flame" you neither do I want you to "flame" me. You put your thoughts I put mine, OK? In the mean time if you can fine the Section in INA 212 Section 5A that refers to a bona-fide relation, post your findings for all of us. In the meantime I will continue to believe that these Consulates are committing fraud against the petitioners that they use this Section 5A excuse against.

I understand. How do you think your assertion helps the OP understand how to deal with the realities of the visa process?

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Please spend a little time looking at what has happened to petitioners going thru the Indian Consulates.

There may be an arguement to front load the petition with as much relationship evidence as possible. If you look in the Administrative Processing forum, you'll see current cases thru New Delhi that are having issues currently with proof of relationship issues. Additionally, there have recently been issues in Mumbai Consulate - COs looking for receipts of receptions that haven't even occured yet [you may want to search in the embassy forum - I stink at adding links otherwise I would].

Finally, one of the members who went thru Chennai [i believe] had a CO that believed his engagement ceremony was in fact a wedding even though it was only an engagement without the specific rituals needed to make it a wedding - their K1 was denied claiming it was a wedding.....

All of the Indian consulates are tough - but many people get thru too.

Please know that any recorded media like cds or dvds or electronic files are not accepted by either USCIS or the Consulates.

Something I wished I had the opportunity to do was attend the interview - I would highly highly highly recommend this!

:thumbs: great advice Milo! For many of us this evidence is not needed until later stages but if it were me dealing with these places, I would send what you have for proof of ongoing/bona-fide relationship along with the initial petition then collect more as you await the I-797(noa2). Be sure to make copies of everything and do try to make the interview if you can.

good luck!

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