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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Panama
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LONDON – When the U.S. government asked years ago that countries take in detainees freed from the Guantanamo military prison, only tiny Albania answered the call.

The rest of Europe had long criticized the U.S. military detention center in Cuba and the Bush administration for opening it in January 2002 to hold so-called "enemy combatants" accused of having links to the al-Qaida terror network or Afghanistan's ousted Taliban regime.

Now Europe appears to be open to helping, as President-elect Barack Obama has pledged to close the prison. Most Europeans held in Guantanamo have been returned to their home countries, but U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates has called for proposals for transferring the remaining 250 or so detainees — amid concerns that some could be persecuted if sent back to their home nations.

Most come from Yemen, but others are from Azerbaijan, Algeria, Afghanistan, Chad, China and Saudi Arabia. Some have been held without charge since the prison camp opened.

Portugal, France, Germany and Switzerland said they would consider taking in some of the remaining detainees.

"We've encouraged other nations to accept detainees from Guantanamo, and we're pleased with the recent discussions," Pentagon spokesman Navy Cmdr. Jeffrey Gordon said Tuesday, adding that U.S. authorities wanted to make sure the detainees — if released — would not be mistreated or pose a threat to the international community.

The U.S. military had said it would prosecute about 70 prisoners in military tribunals, but fewer than 20 have been charged. It is unclear what would happen to them should the detention camp be shut and the trials halted.

The Bush administration holds that the Guantanamo facility should be closed, but it has fought doggedly to keep all remaining inmates outside the United States, arguing that they are too dangerous to bring into the country. Most speculation about the possibility of housing the prisoners within the U.S. has centered on the military prison at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas. But officials there have said the facility is not secure enough, and Kansas senators Sam Brownback and Pat Roberts six months ago protested in a letter to the Bush administration that Leavenworth's only secure wing was too small.

A French diplomat said Tuesday that France was considering hosting Guantanamo detainees, but said a Europe-wide discussion was needed. The diplomat spoke on condition of anonymity in line with government policy.

A lawyer who defended ex-Guantanamo inmates in French courts, William Bourdon, said the French government was in discussions to take in Guantanamo prisoners.

"There is an obligation of solidarity with these people who were held for so long without legal recourse," Bourdon said, without elaborating.

German Foreign Minister Frank Walter Steinmeier has asked officials to look into the legal, political and practical aspects of accepting detainees, as "he does not want to see the plan to close Guantanamo fail due to the need to find somewhere for those prisoners," according to ministry spokesman Jens Ploetner on Monday.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel has long called for the camp's closure, but her spokesman Thomas Steg said Germany would not accept prisoners if conditions were attached.

Portugal is willing to grant asylum to Guantanamo detainees who cannot return home, according to a letter sent by Portuguese Foreign Minister Luis Amado to his European Union counterparts this month.

Amado wrote that the EU "should send a clear signal of our willingness to help the U.S. government resolve this problem, namely by taking in the detainees." He is expected to raise the issue at a January meeting of the bloc in the Czech capital, Prague.

Switzerland also is "ready to seriously examine" a U.S. request, Swiss government minister Moritz Leuenberger said.

EU nations are more inclined to help resolve the Guantanamo situation now that President George W. Bush is leaving office, an official from the bloc said Tuesday on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to reporters.

The Europeans' willingness to help marks a sharp turn from their reluctance in 2006, when only the Balkan nation of Albania offered to accept five Turkic-speaking Muslims called Uighurs from China's far western province of Xinjiang, where Chinese authorities accuse them of waging a separatist campaign. The Uighur detainees said they were fighting against Chinese occupation.

More than a dozen Uighurs remain in Guantanamo, though, and Albania has said nothing about the possibility of taking them in. U.S. authorities have refused to return them to China for fear they may face persecution.

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Associated Press writers Angela Charlton in Paris and Raf Cassert in Brussels contributed to this report.

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May 7,2007-USCIS received I-129f
July 24,2007-NOA1 was received
April 21,2008-K-1 visa denied.
June 3,2008-waiver filed at US Consalate in Panama
The interview went well,they told him it will take another 6 months for them to adjudicate the waiver
March 3,2009-US Consulate claims they have no record of our December visit,nor Manuel's interview
March 27,2009-Manuel returned to the consulate for another interrogation(because they forgot about December's interview),and they were really rude !
April 3,2009-US Counsalate asks for more court documents that no longer exist !
June 1,2009-Manuel and I go back to the US consalate AGAIN to give them a letter from the court in Colon along with documents I already gave them last year.I was surprised to see they had two thick files for his case !


June 15,2010-They called Manuel in to take his fingerprints again,still no decision on his case!
June 22,2010-WAIVER APPROVED at 5:00pm
July 19,2010-VISA IN MANUELITO'S HAND at 3:15pm!
July 25,2010-Manuelito arrives at 9:35pm at Logan Intn'l Airport,Boston,MA
August 5,2010-FINALLY MARRIED!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 23,2010-Filed for AOS at the International Institute of RI $1400!
December 23,2010-Work authorization received.
January 12,2011-RFE

Posted

Have fun with the terrorists. Islamic terrorists.

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies."

Senator Barack Obama
Senate Floor Speech on Public Debt
March 16, 2006



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Have fun with the terrorists. Islamic terrorists.

Heh...I can't decide how to answer this post:

Answer a) To my knowledge, none of these people has even been charged with jaywalking, let alone terrorism.

Answer b ) Holy ####### I thought they were Norwegian terrorists! Islamic terrorists? They're the ones that blow ####### up, right?! zomg!!!

I like a) for the subtle snarkiness, whereas b ) is just very in-your-face snarky.

Oh hell, I'll go with b ). No wait, wait... a). Final answer.

And now I'm going to stop drinking and posting.

:)

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Colombia
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Yeah there's something about international law that has always required a 3rd nation taking in suspects into detention during a criminal procedure and after a guilty verdict by a neutral court when it comes to judging suspects in cases like these. Somehow its now that this will be followed accordingly.

Wishing you ten-fold that which you wish upon all others.

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Panama
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They should send them to Cincinnati or Newark.

Not if it means they will get their EAD b/f my husband gets his. :angry:

Now that would really suck ! :angry:

May 7,2007-USCIS received I-129f
July 24,2007-NOA1 was received
April 21,2008-K-1 visa denied.
June 3,2008-waiver filed at US Consalate in Panama
The interview went well,they told him it will take another 6 months for them to adjudicate the waiver
March 3,2009-US Consulate claims they have no record of our December visit,nor Manuel's interview
March 27,2009-Manuel returned to the consulate for another interrogation(because they forgot about December's interview),and they were really rude !
April 3,2009-US Counsalate asks for more court documents that no longer exist !
June 1,2009-Manuel and I go back to the US consalate AGAIN to give them a letter from the court in Colon along with documents I already gave them last year.I was surprised to see they had two thick files for his case !


June 15,2010-They called Manuel in to take his fingerprints again,still no decision on his case!
June 22,2010-WAIVER APPROVED at 5:00pm
July 19,2010-VISA IN MANUELITO'S HAND at 3:15pm!
July 25,2010-Manuelito arrives at 9:35pm at Logan Intn'l Airport,Boston,MA
August 5,2010-FINALLY MARRIED!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 23,2010-Filed for AOS at the International Institute of RI $1400!
December 23,2010-Work authorization received.
January 12,2011-RFE

Filed: Country: Germany
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How many of these "detainees" have been charged? Or have they just been tortured and held without charge?

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Done with USCIS until 12/28/2020!

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"What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy?" ~Gandhi

Posted
Have fun with the terrorists. Islamic terrorists.

Heh...I can't decide how to answer this post:

Answer a) To my knowledge, none of these people has even been charged with jaywalking, let alone terrorism.

Answer b ) Holy ####### I thought they were Norwegian terrorists! Islamic terrorists? They're the ones that blow ####### up, right?! zomg!!!

I like a) for the subtle snarkiness, whereas b ) is just very in-your-face snarky.

Oh hell, I'll go with b ). No wait, wait... a). Final answer.

And now I'm going to stop drinking and posting.

:)

Fine. They can live with you.

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies."

Senator Barack Obama
Senate Floor Speech on Public Debt
March 16, 2006



barack-cowboy-hat.jpg
90f.JPG

 

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