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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Australia
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Hi all,

I just made my entry to the US last Sunday and I was wondering if a SSN needs applied now or if that can be put away since we're getting married this coming Sunday. I will then take my husband's name. So I was thinking to do it once after our wedding.

Another thing, how can I explain to them that I am ineligible to work while applying for the EAD? I called the SSN office the other day and the officer told me that I also need to show my work authorization papers.

Can anyone who recently applied for his/her SSN help me out?

Many Thanks!

Dennis (SF & Boston)

Priscille (MEL, Australia & Mauritius)

STAGE 1 - I-129F (PETITION FOR ALIEN)

* 2005-10-21: I129F Application being sent

* 2005-10-24: NOA1 Application confirmed received by email

* 2005-12-02: Received National Police Certificate (Australia)

* 2006-01-03: Received National Police Certificate (Mauritius)

* 2006-01-23: NOA2 Approval received by email

* 2005-01-27: Received NOA2 Letter by Snail Mail

STAGE 2 - K-1 (FIANCE VISA)

* 2006-02-01: The officer at NVC confirmed the case was forwarded to the US Consulate in Australia

* 2006-02-13: Receive Packet 3

* 2006-02-14: Re-Schedule for another National Police Certificate (Australia) with FINGERPRINTS!

* 2006-02-15: Medical Examination Appointment & Mailed Back Packet 3

* 2006-02-28: Receive Packet 4

* 2006-03-22: Interview Scheduled

* 2006-03-22: K-1 Visa APPROVED

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Canada
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You should wait at least 2 weeks after your entry into the U.S. to apply for your SSN card.

You can wait until after you are married, and then you will get your card in your married name. Just remember to take a certified copy of your marriage certificate to show why your name is different from your passport.

"THE SHORT STORY"

KURT & RAYMA (K-1 Visa)

Oct. 9/03... I-129F sent to NSC

June 10/04... K-1 Interview - APPROVED!!!!

July 31/04... Entered U.S.

Aug. 28/04... WEDDING DAY!!!!

Aug. 30/04... I-485, I-765 & I-131 sent to Seattle

Dec. 10/04... AOS Interview - APPROVED!!!!! (Passport stamped)

Sept. 9/06... I-751 sent to NSC

May 15/07... 10-Yr. PR Card arrives in the mail

Sept. 13/07... N-400 sent to NSC

Aug. 21/08... Interview - PASSED!!!!

Sept. 2/08... Oath Ceremony

Sept. 5/08... Sent in Voter Registration Card

Sept. 9/08... SSA office to change status to "U.S. citizen"

Oct. 8/08... Applied in person for U.S. Passport

Oct. 22/08... U.S. Passport received

DONE!!! DONE!!! DONE!!! DONE!!!

KAELY (K-2 Visa)

Apr. 6/05... DS-230, Part I faxed to Vancouver Consulate

May 26/05... K-2 Interview - APPROVED!!!!

Sept. 5/05... Entered U.S.

Sept. 7/05... I-485 & I-131 sent to CLB

Feb. 22/06... AOS Interview - APPROVED!!!!! (Passport NOT stamped)

Dec. 4/07... I-751 sent to NSC

May 23/08... 10-Yr. PR Card arrives in the mail

Mar. 22/11.... N-400 sent to AZ

June 27/11..... Interview - PASSED!!!

July 12/11..... Oath Ceremony

We're NOT lawyers.... just your average folks who had to find their own way!!!!! Anything we post here is simply our own opinions/suggestions/experiences and should not be taken as LAW!!!!

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You should wait at least 2 weeks after your entry into the U.S. to apply for your SSN card.

You can wait until after you are married, and then you will get your card in your married name. Just remember to take a certified copy of your marriage certificate to show why your name is different from your passport.

If you do it that way, make sure you still have at least three weeks left before you I-94/visa expires.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Russia
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You should wait at least 2 weeks after your entry into the U.S. to apply for your SSN card.

You can wait until after you are married, and then you will get your card in your married name. Just remember to take a certified copy of your marriage certificate to show why your name is different from your passport.

If you do it that way, make sure you still have at least three weeks left before you I-94/visa expires.

I know that in some offices they will not give you a social security number if you are already married since you are not a fiance any more but a wife, i.e. have a different status. If they refuse you you will have to wait till you get your EAD. K1 visa holders are eligible to work and do not have to provide their EAD to get a SSN. When I was asked for my EAD while applying for SSN I gave the officer a print out from Social Security website with teh listing of the visas catagoryies not requiring work aothorisation document and it was enought for them.

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I would wait until you are married to apply. They should also know about K1's being eligible for a SSN. In case they aren't aware print off this webpage (https://s044a90.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/36f3b2ee954f0075852568c100630558/540b9aa39121c88885256e370011f0b4?OpenDocument).

James went to apply yesterday after being here in the US for over a month and his information STILL wasn't in the system. Needless to say I'm really annoyed that we are going to have to wait at least 4 weeks for them to verify his information.

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05/18/2015 - Interview - passed!

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I entered US on 24th May 2006 through LAX

I applied SSN on May 30th 2006 ( exactly 7 days after POE ). My name is already in their system ( with spelling mistake....grrrr ) But they said it should be no problem because they will correct it when I filed my AOS. BTW the lady didnt ask me anything, she just took my passport and look at my visa.

I got married on 2nd June 2006.

And I received my Social Security Card on 3rd June 2006 by mail.

Hope that help.

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Our K1 Journey

29th November 2005.....Filed I-129F (day 1)

7th December 2005.......NOA1 (days 8)

6th March 2006.............NOA2 (days 97)

16th May 2006..............Interview date (Approved!) (days 168)

24th May 2006..............US POE (days 176)

2nd June 2006..............Marriage! (days 185)

Our AOS Journey

1st August 2006.............Filed AOS (day 1)

8th August 2006.............NOA (days 7)

21st August 2006............RFE (days 20)

22nd August 2006...........Biometrics Appointment (days 21)

8th September 2006........Case transfered to CSC! (days 38)

28th September 2006......AOS approved! (days 58)

30th September 2006......Welcome letter Received! (days 60)

2nd October 2006............Green Card arrives!!!! (days 62)

6th January 2007.............Relegious Ceremony in Malaysia

Our I-751 Journey

16th August 2008.............Filed I-751 Removing condition (day 1)

18th August 2008.............NOA and Check Cashed(day 3)

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19th December 2008...........Green Card arrives!!!!No mistake!(day 126)

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An individual with K-1 status applying for a work authorized SSN must present evidence to establish his or her age, identity and current lawful employment authorized status.

An individual needs to provide at least two documents as evidence to establish age, identity and current lawful employment authorized status.

SSA will not assign an SSN or issue a card to an individual that is within 14 days of his or her alien status expiring. Until the 76th day after entry an individual with K-1 status only needs to provide an unexpired I-94 showing current K-1 status to establish employment authorized status for SSN purposes.

Once, an individual with K-1 status has been in the United States 76 days he or she will need another document, i.e. I-551, I-688B or I-766 to establish employment authorized status for SSN purposes.

RM 00203.500 Employment Authorization for Nonimmigrants:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203500#C1

RM 00203.410 Evidence of Alien Status for an SSN Card for an Alien Lawfully Admitted for Permanent Residence:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203410

Individuals should apply for a corrected SSN card to update the SSN record when there has been a name change due to marriage.

The applicant may submit either:

-- One legal name change document showing both the old and new names

(e.g., a court order for a name change or a marriage document). The

document must also show either (1) a description or photograph of

the person or (2) biographical information that can be compared with

the Numident data; or

-- When the name change document does not show either a photograph of

the person or biographical information that can be compared with the

Numident data, then, in addition to the name change document, the

applicant must also submit two acceptable identity documents. One

of the submitted identity documents must show the old name (the name

on the latest Numident record) AND the other submitted identity

document must show the new name (the name to be shown on the

corrected SSN card). The identity documents submitted must show

either a photograph of the applicant or provide biographical

information that can be compared with the Numident data.

In all 50 U.S. States (this means the 50 States, Washington, D.C., Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands, and American Samoa) the bride may take her husband's last name (surname or family name) as her new last name.

EXAMPLE: Jane Doe married John Jones and she may change her name to Jane Jones.

Interim Guidance: If the bride wants to take her husband’s last name, accept the marriage document as a legal name change for the bride if the new name can be derived from the marriage document; even if the marriage document only shows each partner’s first names, the bride’s prior surname and husband’s surname.

Note: For a marriage document or marriage record to be acceptable as an identity document it must show, in addition to the applicant’s name, either the applicant’s age, date of birth or parents’ names and the marriage document alone can be accepted as evidence of identity for both the old and new names when it meets this standard.

When issuing immigration documents, the Department of State and DHS issue them in the person’s legal name. The legal name is also generally the name in which the foreign passport was issued.

When an alien applies for an SSN card, we presume the name on the immigration document is the legal name unless the applicant presents evidence of a legal name change (e.g., marriage) that occurred after the immigration document was issued.

This is in addition to proof of current lawful employment authorized status.

You can find detailed information regarding changing SSN record (Numident) data on the SSA Website at:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203210

When requesting an SSN card, the documents presented, as evidence must be either originals or copies certified by the issuing agency. SSA will not accept uncertified or notarized photocopies as evidence.

If a foreign-born person has the foreign birth certificate (BC) in his/her possession or can easily obtain a copy, he or she must submit it as proof of age. When a person is foreign-born, a BC may not exist, may not have been recorded shortly after birth, or the probative value of the document may not be high. In these situations, SSA can accept alternative evidence of age in order of probative value. The alternative evidence of age may be less than a year old, e.g., a DHS document or passport.

You can find detailed information regarding evidence that establishes age on the SSA Website at:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203110

The documents acceptable as evidence of identity are now based on three factors: (1) the applicant’s age, (2) the applicant’s citizenship/alien status, and (3) the relative probative value of documents.

Any document used to establish identity must meet the following criteria:

-- The document provides information the reviewer can compare with the

data on the form SS-5 (e.g., the person's name, as well as age, date

of birth, or parents' names) and/or

-- The document provides information the reviewer can compare with the

applicant (e.g., physical description, photograph).

NOTE: A non-picture identity document should have the person's name as well as information that can be compared to the SSN record, the applicant or other documents submitted (e.g., age, date of birth, or parents' names).

However, the acceptability of an identity document must be evaluated on a case by case basis by the office processing the application, taking into consideration the applicant's situation and exploring what evidence is available for the person.

You can find detailed information regarding evidence that establishes identity on the SSA Website at:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203200#E6

SSA will not accept an application filing receipt or notice of action as proof of current lawful employment authorized status.

Form SS-5, “Application for a Social Security Card,” is the appropriate form to request an original SSN and card or corrected card.

You can request Form SS-5 by calling the SSA toll-free number, 1-800-772-1213 or it can be accessed on the SSA Website at:

http://www.ssa.gov/online/ss-5.html

Complete the Form SS-5 and take it along with the required documents, to the nearest Social Security office. Individuals age 12 or older applying for an original SSN and card must apply in person at one of our offices.

You can obtain the address and directions to the nearest Social Security office from the Social Security Office Locator, which is available on the Internet at:

http://www.ssa.gov/locator

Normally, an SSN card should be received in the mail within two weeks after the application and document(s) have been received and verified.

When an alien requests an SSN or replacement/corrected SSN card, the SSA office will verify his or her documents and current status with the appropriate Bureau of the Department of Homeland Security. If verification is not available through the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE) system, the office will send Form G-845 for manual verification.

RM 00203.720 Verifying Immigration Documents:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203720

Note: If the applicant has changed his/her name after an immigration document, i.e. I-94, was issued, e.g., married and is now using the married name, but has not obtained a corrected immigration document showing the new name; this is not a name discrepancy for enumeration purposes, i.e. SAVE clearance, if the applicant can provide an acceptable legal name change document to establish the new name.

The 14 day status expiration limit for assigning an SSN and/or issuing a card applies even if an individual submitted his or her application before being within the 14 day period and entered the 14 day period while waiting for his or her status to be verified.

All cards are mailed from Social Security Headquarters in Baltimore, Maryland to the postal address provided on the Form SS-5.

You may find helpful information on the CIS Website at:

http://uscis.gov/graphics/howdoi/hdifiance.htm

http://uscis.gov/graphics/howdoi/LPRApplication.htm

http://uscis.gov/graphics/howdoi/ead.htm

http://uscis.gov/graphics/howdoi/remCond.htm

You may find additional SSN and employment information on the Internal Revenue Service Website at:

http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/intern...=129227,00.html

If not eligible to be assigned an SSN, your local Social Security office can provide written notice using Form SSA-L676 to explain that an SSN cannot be assigned due to your not having provided authorization to work in the U.S. or evidence of a valid nonwork reason for needing an SSN.

The following are valid nonwork reasons:

-- Receive Social Security benefits

-- Receive Medicaid

-- Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF)

-- Food Stamps

-- State/Local General Assistance Benefits

The IRS assigns individual taxpayer identification numbers (ITIN) to aliens for tax purposes who are not eligible to be assigned an SSN. A Form W-7, “Application for an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number,” needs to be submitted to receive an ITIN.

You can download a form W-7 from the IRS Website at:

http://www.irs.gov/formspubs/index.html

You may also contact the IRS ITIN office by calling 1-215-516-4846.

You can find additional information on the IRS Website at:

http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0,,id=96287,00.html

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Filed: Country: Philippines
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hi,

my wife arrived here in the US last 23Oct2007 and we got married 10nov07. we didnt know that we can get SSN after 2 weeks of her arrival now her I-94 is expiring on 21Jan08 and she was told to go to the Immigratio and Naturalization Office in Jacksonville to have them extend the expiration of her I-94. Is it possible for her to still get SSN or does she need to wait for her I-765 to be approved before she can get her SSN? Please advise

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hi,

my wife arrived here in the US last 23Oct2007 and we got married 10nov07. we didnt know that we can get SSN after 2 weeks of her arrival now her I-94 is expiring on 21Jan08 and she was told to go to the Immigratio and Naturalization Office in Jacksonville to have them extend the expiration of her I-94. Is it possible for her to still get SSN or does she need to wait for her I-765 to be approved before she can get her SSN? Please advise

No, the K-1 I-94 is good for one 90 day period and can't be renewed or extended. Just going to need wait until she has an EAD card or I-551 to be assigned a work authorized SSN.

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