Guantanamo should stay open, waterboarding OK: Cheney

[joelunchbox 0]

Honestly I think if there were any justice in the world they'd just close the place down and release them all. When police abuse the rights of a suspect, any evidence they collect is inadmissible and must be thrown out in a trial. We certainly abused our authority, no matter how guilty any of these guys are. The manner in which these suspects were rounded up was so haphazard that it wouldn't surprise me if the only terrorists at Gitmo were there through blind luck. Many of the Gitmo detainees are there because the Army was putting a bounty on the heads of "terrorists." Warring factions in Afghanistan would turn in members of enemy tribes simply for revenge and to collect bounties. Gitmo is a complete cluster-f*** and they need to just turn 'em all loose and start over.

Well, Mox, this is a very short sighted perspective. Haphazard arrests? I don't think so.

None of us on the outside, really know the potential threats that these detainees might pose against the US. We cannot, simply "dispose of" the potential threats that the USG has clearly vetted against these people. As a citizen, I am not willing to take that risk. Why do you accept the risk?

Yep them goat herders are real byatches for payback....

The only reason it is still open is because we don't want to admit we screwed up.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I agree that "some" are held without just cause, but having worked for the USG overseas, I rest assured that most of the 500 current detainees are held with significant reason.

Perhaps you should get your facts straight before you make statements like this. The facts are these:

A total of 775 detainees have been brought to Gitmo since Oct 2001. The government has thus far charged and tried less than a handful of them, released the vast majority, cleared for release another huge chunk and plans on actually putting on trial 60 - 80 of those 250 that are still there. Get those number, bro. 60 - 80 are to be tried out of almost 800 total. That's one out of ten or less. Which leaves 9 out of 10 or more having been detained for years for apparently no good reason at all. You might be comfortable with this kind of ratio, I am most certainly not.

[almaty 19]

cheney is yesterday news..an old geezer spouting off

[EstebanTrabajos 7]

Give him a shotgun and another ticker for Xmas and send him to Guantanamo if he loves it so much.

That guy is evil, you can tell by just looking @ him, he can't even smile. I tell you, that guy should've been in the movie the Devil's Advocate.

Edited December 16, 2008 by TävôLuDô

[Y's_habibitk 2]

So the Guantanamo Bay prison should be closed; and the detainees released without further delay?

they should get trials without further delay

why?

because some of them got detained in not very legal ways, and are held there undefintely, some of them still havent been linked to any terrorist activities, a trial is the least they deserve

Exactly.

Do you object to a trial?

What alternative do you propose? Just keep'em locked up and interogate them until they "break"?

Its been 7 years...if we havent obtained valuable intel or confessions...do you really think we will get them in the future, or do we think they are holding out for the 10 year mark to confess? It's disastrous and is one of the many things that continues to taint our image to the rest of the world

[zqt3344 21]

HE tells it like it is! The Western world is at a war with these radical islamic muslim punks that go around in the name of their Allah killing and destroying innocent people and property. The world will be a much better place when these radical islamic muslims are gone permanently! Keep it open for as long as it takes and use it as a deterrent to more terrorist nonsense!

WASHINGTON (AFP) – The Guantanamo 'war on terror' detention center should remain open indefinitely, Vice President Richard Cheney told ABC News in an interview Monday, while also defending the harsh interrogation method known as waterboarding.

Cheney was asked when the detention camp at the US naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba can be "responsibly" be shut down. "Well, I think that that would come with the end of the war on terror," he told ABC.

And when is that? "Well, nobody knows," Cheney said. "Nobody can specify that."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081215/pl_af...uantanamocheney

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Garrgh! Terrorisers!

[Y's_habibitk 2]

HE tells it like it is! The Western world is at a war with these radical islamic muslim punks that go around in the name of their Allah killing and destroying innocent people and property. The world will be a much better place when these radical islamic muslims are gone permanently! Keep it open for as long as it takes and use it as a deterrent to more terrorist nonsense!

WASHINGTON (AFP) – The Guantanamo 'war on terror' detention center should remain open indefinitely, Vice President Richard Cheney told ABC News in an interview Monday, while also defending the harsh interrogation method known as waterboarding.

Cheney was asked when the detention camp at the US naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba can be "responsibly" be shut down. "Well, I think that that would come with the end of the war on terror," he told ABC.

And when is that? "Well, nobody knows," Cheney said. "Nobody can specify that."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081215/pl_af...uantanamocheney

Yep, this will certainly deter future terrorist attacks...you're right

:better go check the threat level: