Clarence Thomas takes on Obama on citizenship question

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Call me skeptical, but how does this "news source" scoop CNN, Fox, and all the other news sources?

Googling CT and BO only returns comments the President-Elect made early in the campaign, to wit

he would not have nominated CT as a justice.

Not on CNN, not on FoxNews, not on Google?

Things that make you go hmmmmmmmm?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Of course if that were true - it would surely follow that the USC children of VJers wouldn't be eligible for the Presidency either...

Only the children of couples from countries where dual citizenship is automatic, no?

Well of course. But that's still going to be quite a lot of people.

Not to mention that in countries where the government doesn't recognise renunciation of citizenship it wouldn't matter if you were a USC or Naturalized citizen - your children would still be ineligible.

But that's still dodgy - because if your child is born in the US and has citizenship granted - its still a "born USC", rather than a naturalised one.

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Call me skeptical, but how does this "news source" scoop CNN, Fox, and all the other news sources?

Googling CT and BO only returns comments the President-Elect made early in the campaign, to wit

he would not have nominated CT as a justice.

Not on CNN, not on FoxNews, not on Google?

Things that make you go hmmmmmmmm?

From google. Work on those google skills.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politic...,0,664988.story

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Even if hypothetically, being born in Hawaii would make him a dual citizen, does Justice Thomas want SCOTUS to nullify the election results? Even Justice Scalia has commented that when the election of 2000 was brought to the Supreme Court, it would have sent the wrong precedent had the Court been the final decider. Perhaps Scalia should call Thomas into his chambers for a heart to heart talk?

Doubtful. If there is any merit to this it will probably be used to more clearly define what counts as "natural born USC" in future elections.

I don't think there's a precedent (certainly not in the modern time) of an elected President being declared ineligible before assuming office.

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From that Chicago Trib article:

The remaining case with the highest profile is Donofrio vs. Wells. Because it was distributed by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas to other justices for conference, it gained undue importance for people unschooled in how the court works, Volokh said.

Many petitioners seeking stays of pending events have their cases distributed to the full court, he said. Of those, Volokh found that 782 were denied in the last eight years while just 60 were heard—and not all of those ultimately were successful.

[NickD 203]

(December 3, 2008) - In a highly unusual move, U.S. Associate Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has asked his colleagues on the court to consider the request of an East Brunswick, N.J. attorney who has filed a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama's status as a United States citizen.

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The court has scheduled a Dec. 5 conference on the writ -- just 10 days before the Electoral College meets.

The high court's only African American is bringing the matter to his colleagues as a result of the writ that was filed by attorney Leo Donofrio. Donofrio sued the New Jersey Secretary of State Nina Wells, contending that Obama was not qualified to be on the state's presidential ballot because of Donofrio's own questions about Obama citizenship.

Donofrio is a retired lawyer who identifies himself as a "citizen's advocate." The AFRO learned that he is a contributor to naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com, a Web site that raises questions about Obama's citizenship.

Calls made to Donofrio's residence were not returned to the AFRO by press time.

Donofrio is questioning Obama's citizenship because the former Illinois senator, whose mom was from Kansas, was born in Hawaii and his father was a Kenyan national. Therefore, Donofrio argues, Obama's dual citizenship does not make Obama "a natural born citizen" as required by Article II, Section I of the U.S. Constitution.

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Thomas's actions were rare because, by custom, when a justice rejects a petition from his own circuit, the matter is dead. Even if, as can be the case under Rule 22, the matter can be submitted to another justice for consideration, that justice out of respect, will reject it also, said Trevor Morrison, a professor of law at Columbia University School of Law.

Morrison said that Thomas's actions are once in a decade. "When that does happen, the case has to be of an extraordinary nature and this does not fit that circumstance," he said.

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Donofrio wants the court to order the Electoral College to postpone its Dec. 15 proceedings until it rules on the Obama citizenship.

http://www.afro.com/tabid/456/itemid/2273/...ok-at-Obam.aspx

If you are looking for BS, certainly can find it on the web, ironically that same identical article was printed verbatim in at least five different sites. News of this great importance is printed by renown sources not by BSer's.

Did find this however.

"No. 08A407

Title: Leo C. Donofrio, Applicant v. Nina Mitchell Wells, New Jersey Secretary of State Docketed:

Lower Ct:Supreme Court of New Jersey Case Nos.:(AM-0153-08T2 at the New Jersey Appellate Division without a docket number)

~~~Date~~~ ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Nov 3 2008 Application (08A407) for stay pending the filing and disposition of a petition for a writ of certiorari, submitted to Justice Souter. Nov 6 2008 Application (08A407) denied by Justice Souter. Nov 14 2008 Application (08A407) refiled and submitted to Justice Thomas. Nov 19 2008 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of December 5, 2008. Nov 19 2008 Application (08A407) referred to the Court by Justice Thomas. Nov 26 2008 Supplemental brief of applicant Leo C. Donofrio filed. (Distributed) Dec 1 2008 Letter from applicant dated November 22, 2008, received.

~~Name~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~Address~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~Phone~~~ Attorneys for Petitioner:

Leo C. Donofrio P.O. Box 93

East Brunswick, NJ 08816

Party name: Leo C. Donofrio"

At:

http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08a407.htm

Sounds like Donfrio won't quit.

Would think PBS news would report something like this, but not this morning, only heard about thousands and thousands more people will be laid off, AT&T the largest dumping 12,000 employees. Merry Christmas.

Looking for BS on the web? Not really difficult to find.

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Call me skeptical, but how does this "news source" scoop CNN, Fox, and all the other news sources?

Googling CT and BO only returns comments the President-Elect made early in the campaign, to wit

he would not have nominated CT as a justice.

Not on CNN, not on FoxNews, not on Google?

Things that make you go hmmmmmmmm?

From google. Work on those google skills.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politic...,0,664988.story

Humble pie accepted....mmm, good.

But I think there's no way it will be granted certiorari.

Searchable, yes, possible, no.

So what were your search terms?

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So what were your search terms?

+Donofrio +thomas in news.google.com (not www.google.com)

[justashooter 430]

the issue has to do with his dual UK/USA citizenship, assuming you accept the hawaii forgery. you have to read and understand the law in regard to this to know what they are talking about.

clarence thomas is known as "the silent justice" because he has not spoken in oral arguments since his appointment. he also rarely writes decisions. he is regarded as one of the more "scholarly" of the justices, and as a strict constitutionalist. he does not believe the ####### that the Constitution is a "living document", but accepts the actual intent of the founding fathers, as amplified in the Federalist Papers, accepting the reality that the only way to change the Consititution is by Congressional process.

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So what were your search terms?

+Donofrio +thomas in news.google.com (not www.google.com)

So....that's how you came upon this article, by explicitly searching Donofrio + Thomas, or are you a daily subscriber to Afro.com?

[AlHayatZween 2]

Zween, run for governor! I'll vote for ya. Your election platform can be to ban out of state drivers from the Parkway

Thanks, man...

i'm still too young for politics though. i'm still trying to poison the masses from the ground up...

and then maybe a little later, i'll try to ravage the machine from within.

[Dan J 277]

Natural Born Citizen is not defined by the constitution. Its probably a good thing too. If we were to go by the society rules of the late 18th century, only a white, male landowner would be able to run for president.

[AlHayatZween 2]

Joisey... no, that's a different country all together...

*runs*

isn't it, though?

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So what were your search terms?

+Donofrio +thomas in news.google.com (not www.google.com)

So....that's how you came upon this article, by explicitly searching Donofrio + Thomas, or are you a daily subscriber to Afro.com?

the keywords are how i came across the chi trib article.

[PlatyPius 5]

the issue has to do with his dual UK/USA citizenship, assuming you accept the hawaii forgery. you have to read and understand the law in regard to this to know what they are talking about.

clarence thomas is known as "the silent justice" because he has not spoken in oral arguments since his appointment. he also rarely writes decisions. he is regarded as one of the more "scholarly" of the justices, and as a strict constitutionalist. he does not believe the ####### that the Constitution is a "living document", but accepts the actual intent of the founding fathers, as amplified in the Federalist Papers, accepting the reality that the only way to change the Consititution is by Congressional process.

Does that make him a triple-citizenship person? Wow! US, Britain, AND Kenya!!