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The spot hopes to win over old Jews by making fun of black men? I don't think Obama would have approved of this ad.

Why exactly would Obama stick his neck out to save Israel if he wants the praise of a world that hates Israel?

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Why exactly would Obama stick his neck out to save Israel if he wants the praise of a world that hates Israel?

Read up, kiddo, he staunchly had his head up Israel a$$, so you can quit making sh!t up just to make your position seem any more reasonable:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_pos...raeli_conflicts

Arab-Israeli conflicts

Referring to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in January 2006, Obama denounced Hamas while praising former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon. At a meeting with then Israeli Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom on the eve of Hamas' sweeping election victory, Obama stated that Sharon's role in the conflict had always been "absolutely important and constructive." At a meeting with Palestinian students two days later, Obama stated opposition to Hamas in favor of rival party Fatah, noting his desire to "consolidate behind a single government with a single authority that can then negotiate as a reliable partner with Israel." In a comment aimed at Hamas, he said that "the US will always side with Israel if Israel is threatened with destruction."

Obama was also a co-sponsor of the Palestinian Anti-Terrorism Act of 2006, which in part calls on "members of the international community to avoid contact with and refrain from financially supporting the terrorist organization Hamas until it agrees to recognize Israel, renounce violence, disarm, and accept prior agreements, including the Roadmap."

Obama defended Israel's response to the killing of eight Israeli soldiers and kidnapping of two others near the border with Lebanon, telling NBC's Tim Russert on August 22, 2006, "I don't think there is any nation that would not have reacted the way Israel did after two soldiers had been snatched. I support Israel's response to take some action in protecting themselves."

Discussing the 2006 Israel-Hezbollah War Obama said, " don't fault Israel for wanting to rid their border with Lebanon from those Katyusha missiles that can fire in and harm Israeli citizens, so I think that any cease fire would have to be premised on the removal of those missiles."

Speaking to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee on March 2, 2007, Obama called Israel "our strongest ally in the region," and stated: "We must preserve our total commitment to our unique defense relationship with Israel by fully funding military assistance and continuing work on the Arrow and related missile defense programs." On the Palestinian Authority's new unity government, Obama said: "We should all be concerned about the agreement negotiated among Palestinians in Mecca last month."

In March 2007, Obama told Democratic activists in Iowa, "Nobody is suffering more than the Palestinian people. ...if we could get some movement among Palestinian leadership, what I'd like to see is a loosening up of some of the restrictions on providing aid directly to the Palestinian people."

Obama has also discussed in more general terms his views about the Palestinians vis-à-vis the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. On June 4, 2007, he stated that:

...resolution [to the conflict] and a better life for all people... is something that can be achieved, but it's going to require some soul-searching on the Palestinian side. They have to recognize Israel's right to exist; they have to renounce violence and terrorism as a tool to achieve their political ends; they have to abide by agreements. In that context, I think the Israelis will gladly say, "Let's move forward negotiations that would allow them to live side by side with the Palestinians in peace and security."

Obama denounced former President Jimmy Carter for meeting with Hamas. Obama said "Hamas is not a state, Hamas is a terrorist organization."

In June 2008, Obama became the first presidential candidate ever to publicly back the traditional Israeli position that Jerusalem remain forever undivided under Israel rule. "Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided," Obama declared on June 4, 2008. Days later, he said, "obviously, it's going to be up to the parties to negotiate a range of these issues. And Jerusalem will be part of those negotiations."

On a July, 2008 world tour focused on trouble spots for U.S. national security interests, Obama met with Israeli president Shimon Peres, prime minister Ehud Olmert, oppostion party leader Benjamin Netanyahu, and Palestinian Authority president Mahmoud Abbas and prime minister Salam Fayyad. Obama reiterated that Jerusalem should be the capital of Israel, but that territorial disputes regarding that city and elsewhere needed to be resolved without direct U.S. involvement. "That’s an issue that has to be dealt with by the parties involved, the Palestinians and the Israelis, and it is not the job of the United States to dictate the form in which that will take, but rather to support the efforts that are being made right now to resolve these very difficult issues that have a long history." On the same trip, Obama said, "The state of Israel faces determined enemies who seek its destruction, but it also has a friend and ally in the United States that will always stand by the people of Israel."

Obama also issued a warning to Iran at the same time, saying, "A nuclear Iran would pose a grave threat and the world must prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon." Obama said no options were "off the table" in dealing with a nuclear threat from Iran but that the country should be offered diplomatic incentives in the form of "big carrots" as well as punitive measures or threats in the form of "big sticks." Obama said, "I think there are opportunities for us to mobilize a much more serious regime of sanctions on Iran, but also to offer them the possibility of improved relations in the international community if they stand down on these nuclear weapons."

Obama's selection for his Vice-Presidential candidate, Joe Biden, has stressed that Obama is strongly pro-Israel. In a speech in September 2008, Biden stated "I am chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee. I give you my word as a Biden, I would not have given up that job to be Barack Obama's vice president if I didn't in my gut and in my heart and in my head know that Barack Obama is exactly where I am on Israel. And he is...I promise you ... we will make [israel] more secure."

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Of course, this is yet another reason I'm not voting for Obama, because he strongly favors Israel when Israel is, by no means, right, and thumbs their nose at the rest of the world, spies on the U.S., infiltrating our government with said spies, and we want to give trillions to people who do this? What the hell kind of retarded ####### is that? Let Israel figure out it's own way, and if they get bombed to hell, it's their own fault and problem.

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Of course, this is yet another reason I'm not voting for Obama, because he strongly favors Israel when Israel is, by no means, right, and thumbs their nose at the rest of the world, spies on the U.S., infiltrating our government with said spies, and we want to give trillions to people who do this? What the hell kind of retarded ####### is that? Let Israel figure out it's own way, and if they get bombed to hell, it's their own fault and problem.

The Jews in Israel just can't be trusted. They spy on us and are greedy people who got "trillions" (wrong, you mean billions). What's with the nose comment?

If Iran gets bombed it's their own fault as well.

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The Jews in Israel just can't be trusted. They spy on us and are greedy people who got "trillions" (wrong, you mean billions). What's with the nose comment?

If Iran gets bombed it's their own fault as well.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1209/p16s01-wmgn.html

Since 1973, Israel has cost the United States about $1.6 trillion. If divided by today's population, that is more than $5,700 per person.

You can trust Christians, right?

Anyways, Israel's sincerity about peace with the Palestinians is clearly zero. I mean, look at these attempts at giving Palestinians back their lan-- oops, just kidding *takes back land*. It's a joke. Given their stupidity, taking money from us, and spying on the people they get their money from (I guess gratitude and trust need only go one way, right?), it makes me wonder how far does one need their foot up your rear for you to start figuring out it hurts?

Their spat with Iran, or Syria, or any other ME nation, is none of our business and no reason to waste resources or time on a nation who clearly take for granted our aid.

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so this is the plan, have the grandkids strongarm the grandparents into voting for obama.

oh and more bad ol' jews #######! :rolleyes:

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Sarah Silverman is a Jewish comedian, for those of you who are Comedy Central-challenged.

so jews can't hate jews? someone should tell alex that.

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Sarah Silverman is a Jewish comedian

Who could have guessed she was Jewish by her name? I doubt she's a comedian though unless she had a sex change.

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Sarah Silverman is a Jewish comedian, for those of you who are Comedy Central-challenged.

so jews can't hate jews? someone should tell alex that.

Only when people decide to take criticism of Israel as antisemitism. Lots of irony here considering whites who think being critical of other whites means white racism or self hating. :lol:

Then bitching about blacks. Damn, there's a correlation here.

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Sarah Silverman is a Jewish comedian, for those of you who are Comedy Central-challenged.

so jews can't hate jews? someone should tell alex that.

And that would be a personal attack.

:rolleyes:

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