Obama's stuttering in debate...Why

[villaspurs 65]

I agree with the first part, so long as the politician can give a convincing reason why they changed their mind. So far, McCain hasn't been very convincing as to why he's changed his mind on a lot of key issues. As for Obama not having a record....what are you talking about? He has a solid record, however, he hasn't made Washington his home for 24 years like McCain has. Some find that more appealing...it's the outsider (Obama) vs. the insider (McCain).

I agree that some do find that appealing, I do myself at times. But the problems we are facing are huge, home and abroad. We are limited to two choices for President. Age and experience by a candidate who's party isn't in good standing with America's and the world opinion, or youth and talk of change by a inexperienced candidtate. I think the election is Obama's to lose. America will be taking a chance either way.

LOL...sorry but that rhetoric gets spewed out over and over ad nauseum...no sh!t we're taking a chance. You think anyone made that an issue with Dubbya? And look what a wonderful chance he's turn out to be.

This election is about two fundamentally different ideas of which direction this country should be going. McCain, although tries to sell himself as a maverick, has supported Bush's failed policies over 90 percent of the time. Obama isn't some baby deer that wondered out of the forest. He's an incredibly bright and knowledgable candidate with a record for those who care to look at it. On the most fundamental level, this election is a no-brainer - you either want to continue the direction we're going or you're ready for a change in direction. All talk of experience vs. inexperience, or who's pastor said what, VP's having babies....it's all a distraction from that fundamental aspect of this election.

McCain is the more experienced candidate across the board - period. I am certainly not questioning Obama's level of intelligence, but a reasonable IQ does not a good President make. Experience is not a distraction from the fundamental aspect of this election, and neither are the issues that have been raised along the way including Obama's relationship with known racist Jeremiah Wright, his land deal with Tony Rezko, and his relationship with self declared terrorist William Ayers. These are all extremely worrying and disturbing facts. Personally I would prefer a president who fought and suffered for his country, and who's running mate has a pregnant teenage daughter. No comparison really.

I genuinely do not understand how anyone can think Sarah Palin is a remotely acceptable choice for a Presidential ticket. Not only does she have little experience (far less than Obama, particularly when you consider their experience in "life" outside of electoral politics), but she shows an appalling and alarming lack of understanding about today's political realities. Even if I had been willing to give her the benefit of the doubt, her shortcomings were obvious during a softball interview with Katie Couric--it was embarrassing and painful to watch. I honestly do not understand how anyone can play the "experience" card against Obama within this context.

[luckytxn 2,265]

I agree with the first part, so long as the politician can give a convincing reason why they changed their mind. So far, McCain hasn't been very convincing as to why he's changed his mind on a lot of key issues. As for Obama not having a record....what are you talking about? He has a solid record, however, he hasn't made Washington his home for 24 years like McCain has. Some find that more appealing...it's the outsider (Obama) vs. the insider (McCain).

I agree that some do find that appealing, I do myself at times. But the problems we are facing are huge, home and abroad. We are limited to two choices for President. Age and experience by a candidate who's party isn't in good standing with America's and the world opinion, or youth and talk of change by a inexperienced candidtate. I think the election is Obama's to lose. America will be taking a chance either way.

LOL...sorry but that rhetoric gets spewed out over and over ad nauseum...no sh!t we're taking a chance. You think anyone made that an issue with Dubbya? And look what a wonderful chance he's turn out to be.

This election is about two fundamentally different ideas of which direction this country should be going. McCain, although tries to sell himself as a maverick, has supported Bush's failed policies over 90 percent of the time. Obama isn't some baby deer that wondered out of the forest. He's an incredibly bright and knowledgable candidate with a record for those who care to look at it. On the most fundamental level, this election is a no-brainer - you either want to continue the direction we're going or you're ready for a change in direction. All talk of experience vs. inexperience, or who's pastor said what, VP's having babies....it's all a distraction from that fundamental aspect of this election.

McCain is the more experienced candidate across the board - period. I am certainly not questioning Obama's level of intelligence, but a reasonable IQ does not a good President make. Experience is not a distraction from the fundamental aspect of this election, and neither are the issues that have been raised along the way including Obama's relationship with known racist Jeremiah Wright, his land deal with Tony Rezko, and his relationship with self declared terrorist William Ayers. These are all extremely worrying and disturbing facts. Personally I would prefer a president who fought and suffered for his country, and who's running mate has a pregnant teenage daughter. No comparison really.

I don't think anyone is doubting that McCain has a lot of experience and Obama has very little.

[Dan J 277]

I agree with the first part, so long as the politician can give a convincing reason why they changed their mind. So far, McCain hasn't been very convincing as to why he's changed his mind on a lot of key issues. As for Obama not having a record....what are you talking about? He has a solid record, however, he hasn't made Washington his home for 24 years like McCain has. Some find that more appealing...it's the outsider (Obama) vs. the insider (McCain).

I agree that some do find that appealing, I do myself at times. But the problems we are facing are huge, home and abroad. We are limited to two choices for President. Age and experience by a candidate who's party isn't in good standing with America's and the world opinion, or youth and talk of change by a inexperienced candidtate. I think the election is Obama's to lose. America will be taking a chance either way.

LOL...sorry but that rhetoric gets spewed out over and over ad nauseum...no sh!t we're taking a chance. You think anyone made that an issue with Dubbya? And look what a wonderful chance he's turn out to be.

This election is about two fundamentally different ideas of which direction this country should be going. McCain, although tries to sell himself as a maverick, has supported Bush's failed policies over 90 percent of the time. Obama isn't some baby deer that wondered out of the forest. He's an incredibly bright and knowledgable candidate with a record for those who care to look at it. On the most fundamental level, this election is a no-brainer - you either want to continue the direction we're going or you're ready for a change in direction. All talk of experience vs. inexperience, or who's pastor said what, VP's having babies....it's all a distraction from that fundamental aspect of this election.

McCain is the more experienced candidate across the board - period. I am certainly not questioning Obama's level of intelligence, but a reasonable IQ does not a good President make. Experience is not a distraction from the fundamental aspect of this election, and neither are the issues that have been raised along the way including Obama's relationship with known racist Jeremiah Wright, his land deal with Tony Rezko, and his relationship with self declared terrorist William Ayers. These are all extremely worrying and disturbing facts. Personally I would prefer a president who fought and suffered for his country, and who's running mate has a pregnant teenage daughter. No comparison really.

Experience is definitely not an indicator of success. Bush served as Governor of Texas before becoming president, and yet, has the lowest approval rating of any president. There are also presidents in our history that had hardly any experience in elected office, but yet history has regarded them quite well.

If you really care about the past, you can't ignore the Keating 5.

[IAMX 3,055]

Not sure what crow to eat but just wanted the one that said to look at Obamas record to say why we needed to vote for him because of what I read before of his record.

Like I said it may have gone over your head but that is ok.

Which part of this was over my head?

I once looked and never saw any legislation he has ever started.

Then after:

I like that he sponsored so much important legislation.

You're sounding just like the McCain nuts, and worse, not humble whatsoever. So crow it is.

I have heard about this record that Obama has to look at. Please post some links that clearly show his record. I once looked and never saw any legislation he has ever started. Also his record that I saw was mostly invisible. Please enlighten.

Man, I try and give you the benefit of the doubt, but you can not seriously say you've looked for legislation that Obama has created, when it is plastered all over the internet, and even at the Congress' own webpage:

Legislation he "started":

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/?&am...LD(FLD008+(m)))

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/?&am...LD(FLD008+(m)))

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/?&am...LD(FLD008+(m)))

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/?&am...LD(FLD008+(m)))

This doesn't even include bills he co-sponsored. These are all ones he made himself.

Then here's his voting record:

http://obama.senate.gov/votes/

Enjoy. Took me 3 minutes.

That's it? That's the record that's propelled him as a presidential candidate?

I'd sure love to hear your unbiased views as to how much legislation one should create.

[luckytxn 2,265]

I agree with the first part, so long as the politician can give a convincing reason why they changed their mind. So far, McCain hasn't been very convincing as to why he's changed his mind on a lot of key issues. As for Obama not having a record....what are you talking about? He has a solid record, however, he hasn't made Washington his home for 24 years like McCain has. Some find that more appealing...it's the outsider (Obama) vs. the insider (McCain).

I agree that some do find that appealing, I do myself at times. But the problems we are facing are huge, home and abroad. We are limited to two choices for President. Age and experience by a candidate who's party isn't in good standing with America's and the world opinion, or youth and talk of change by a inexperienced candidtate. I think the election is Obama's to lose. America will be taking a chance either way.

LOL...sorry but that rhetoric gets spewed out over and over ad nauseum...no sh!t we're taking a chance. You think anyone made that an issue with Dubbya? And look what a wonderful chance he's turn out to be.

This election is about two fundamentally different ideas of which direction this country should be going. McCain, although tries to sell himself as a maverick, has supported Bush's failed policies over 90 percent of the time. Obama isn't some baby deer that wondered out of the forest. He's an incredibly bright and knowledgable candidate with a record for those who care to look at it. On the most fundamental level, this election is a no-brainer - you either want to continue the direction we're going or you're ready for a change in direction. All talk of experience vs. inexperience, or who's pastor said what, VP's having babies....it's all a distraction from that fundamental aspect of this election.

McCain is the more experienced candidate across the board - period. I am certainly not questioning Obama's level of intelligence, but a reasonable IQ does not a good President make. Experience is not a distraction from the fundamental aspect of this election, and neither are the issues that have been raised along the way including Obama's relationship with known racist Jeremiah Wright, his land deal with Tony Rezko, and his relationship with self declared terrorist William Ayers. These are all extremely worrying and disturbing facts. Personally I would prefer a president who fought and suffered for his country, and who's running mate has a pregnant teenage daughter. No comparison really.

Experience is definitely not an indicator of success. Bush served as Governor of Texas before becoming president, and yet, has the lowest approval rating of any president. There are also presidents in our history that had hardly any experience in elected office, but yet history has regarded them quite well.

If you really care about the past, you can't ignore the Keating 5.

Also can't ignore Obama associates though but he is supposed to get a pass?

Actually I think McCain has a atrocious voting record too. He has a huge one though since he has been at it a loooooooong time.

[Dan J 277]

I agree with the first part, so long as the politician can give a convincing reason why they changed their mind. So far, McCain hasn't been very convincing as to why he's changed his mind on a lot of key issues. As for Obama not having a record....what are you talking about? He has a solid record, however, he hasn't made Washington his home for 24 years like McCain has. Some find that more appealing...it's the outsider (Obama) vs. the insider (McCain).

I agree that some do find that appealing, I do myself at times. But the problems we are facing are huge, home and abroad. We are limited to two choices for President. Age and experience by a candidate who's party isn't in good standing with America's and the world opinion, or youth and talk of change by a inexperienced candidtate. I think the election is Obama's to lose. America will be taking a chance either way.

LOL...sorry but that rhetoric gets spewed out over and over ad nauseum...no sh!t we're taking a chance. You think anyone made that an issue with Dubbya? And look what a wonderful chance he's turn out to be.

This election is about two fundamentally different ideas of which direction this country should be going. McCain, although tries to sell himself as a maverick, has supported Bush's failed policies over 90 percent of the time. Obama isn't some baby deer that wondered out of the forest. He's an incredibly bright and knowledgable candidate with a record for those who care to look at it. On the most fundamental level, this election is a no-brainer - you either want to continue the direction we're going or you're ready for a change in direction. All talk of experience vs. inexperience, or who's pastor said what, VP's having babies....it's all a distraction from that fundamental aspect of this election.

McCain is the more experienced candidate across the board - period. I am certainly not questioning Obama's level of intelligence, but a reasonable IQ does not a good President make. Experience is not a distraction from the fundamental aspect of this election, and neither are the issues that have been raised along the way including Obama's relationship with known racist Jeremiah Wright, his land deal with Tony Rezko, and his relationship with self declared terrorist William Ayers. These are all extremely worrying and disturbing facts. Personally I would prefer a president who fought and suffered for his country, and who's running mate has a pregnant teenage daughter. No comparison really.

Experience is definitely not an indicator of success. Bush served as Governor of Texas before becoming president, and yet, has the lowest approval rating of any president. There are also presidents in our history that had hardly any experience in elected office, but yet history has regarded them quite well.

If you really care about the past, you can't ignore the Keating 5.

Also can't ignore Obama associates though but he is supposed to get a pass?

I wasn't the one bringing up past historical associations.

[IAMX 3,055]

Actually I think McCain has a atrocious voting record too. He has a huge one though since he has been at it a loooooooong time.

Humor me.

[luckytxn 2,265]

I agree with the first part, so long as the politician can give a convincing reason why they changed their mind. So far, McCain hasn't been very convincing as to why he's changed his mind on a lot of key issues. As for Obama not having a record....what are you talking about? He has a solid record, however, he hasn't made Washington his home for 24 years like McCain has. Some find that more appealing...it's the outsider (Obama) vs. the insider (McCain).

I agree that some do find that appealing, I do myself at times. But the problems we are facing are huge, home and abroad. We are limited to two choices for President. Age and experience by a candidate who's party isn't in good standing with America's and the world opinion, or youth and talk of change by a inexperienced candidtate. I think the election is Obama's to lose. America will be taking a chance either way.

LOL...sorry but that rhetoric gets spewed out over and over ad nauseum...no sh!t we're taking a chance. You think anyone made that an issue with Dubbya? And look what a wonderful chance he's turn out to be.

This election is about two fundamentally different ideas of which direction this country should be going. McCain, although tries to sell himself as a maverick, has supported Bush's failed policies over 90 percent of the time. Obama isn't some baby deer that wondered out of the forest. He's an incredibly bright and knowledgable candidate with a record for those who care to look at it. On the most fundamental level, this election is a no-brainer - you either want to continue the direction we're going or you're ready for a change in direction. All talk of experience vs. inexperience, or who's pastor said what, VP's having babies....it's all a distraction from that fundamental aspect of this election.

McCain is the more experienced candidate across the board - period. I am certainly not questioning Obama's level of intelligence, but a reasonable IQ does not a good President make. Experience is not a distraction from the fundamental aspect of this election, and neither are the issues that have been raised along the way including Obama's relationship with known racist Jeremiah Wright, his land deal with Tony Rezko, and his relationship with self declared terrorist William Ayers. These are all extremely worrying and disturbing facts. Personally I would prefer a president who fought and suffered for his country, and who's running mate has a pregnant teenage daughter. No comparison really.

Experience is definitely not an indicator of success. Bush served as Governor of Texas before becoming president, and yet, has the lowest approval rating of any president. There are also presidents in our history that had hardly any experience in elected office, but yet history has regarded them quite well.

If you really care about the past, you can't ignore the Keating 5.

Also can't ignore Obama associates though but he is supposed to get a pass?

I wasn't the one bringing up past historical associations.

I hear you. I wouldn't either since Obama has a whopper of post associations to hide from.

Actually I think McCain has a atrocious voting record too. He has a huge one though since he has been at it a loooooooong time.

Humor me.

Ok. I last looked at his voting record and it seems he has a lot of NV the last couple of years.

[luckytxn 2,265]

Also after the debate last night I looked at Obamas voting record and was struck on his NV on Iraq war.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Obama's legislation

I guess these aren't Presidential material.

3. S.CON.RES.44 : A concurrent resolution expressing the sense of Congress that a commemorative postage stamp should be issued honoring Rosa Louise McCauley Parks.

6. S.RES.133 : A resolution celebrating the life of Bishop Gilbert Earl Patterson.

7. S.RES.268 : A resolution designating July 12, 2007, as "National Summer Learning Day".

8. S.RES.383 : A resolution honoring and recognizing the achievements of Carl Stokes, the first African-American mayor of a major American city, in the 40th year since his election as Mayor of Cleveland, Ohio.

12. S.114 : A bill to authorize resources for a grant program for local educational agencies to create innovation districts

42. S.1713 : A bill to provide for the issuance of a commemorative postage stamp in honor of Rosa Parks.

Maybe these are?

4. S.CON.RES.46 : A concurrent resolution supporting the goals and ideals of Sickle Cell Disease Awareness Month.

9. S.RES.600 : A resolution commemorating the 44th anniversary of the deaths of civil rights workers Andrew Goodman, James Chaney, and Michael Schwerner in Philadelphia, Mississippi, while working in the name of American democracy to register voters and secure civil rights during the summer of 1964, which has become known as "Freedom Summer".

10. S.RES.628 : A resolution expressing support for the designation of Disability Pride Day and recognizing that all people, including people living with disabilities, have the right, responsibility, and ability to be active, contributing members of society and fully engaged as citizens of the United States.

11. S.J.RES.23 : A joint resolution clarifying that the use of force against Iran is not authorized by the Authorization for the Use of Military Force Against Iraq, any resolution previously adopted, or any other provision of law.

15. S.117 : A bill to amend titles 10 and 38, United States Code, to improve benefits and services for members of the Armed Forces, veterans of the Global War on Terrorism, and other veterans, to require reports on the effects of the Global War on Terrorism, and for other purposes.

16. S.133 : A bill to promote the national security and stability of the economy of the United States by reducing the dependence of the United States on oil through the use of alternative fuels and new technology, and for other purposes.

18. S.453 : A bill to prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections.

27. S.906 : A bill to prohibit the sale, distribution, transfer, and export of elemental mercury, and for other purposes.

30. S.1068 : A bill to promote healthy communities.

37. S.1324 : A bill to amend the Clean Air Act to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from transportation fuel sold in the United States.

[britty 1]

I agree with the first part, so long as the politician can give a convincing reason why they changed their mind. So far, McCain hasn't been very convincing as to why he's changed his mind on a lot of key issues. As for Obama not having a record....what are you talking about? He has a solid record, however, he hasn't made Washington his home for 24 years like McCain has. Some find that more appealing...it's the outsider (Obama) vs. the insider (McCain).

I agree that some do find that appealing, I do myself at times. But the problems we are facing are huge, home and abroad. We are limited to two choices for President. Age and experience by a candidate who's party isn't in good standing with America's and the world opinion, or youth and talk of change by a inexperienced candidtate. I think the election is Obama's to lose. America will be taking a chance either way.

LOL...sorry but that rhetoric gets spewed out over and over ad nauseum...no sh!t we're taking a chance. You think anyone made that an issue with Dubbya? And look what a wonderful chance he's turn out to be.

This election is about two fundamentally different ideas of which direction this country should be going. McCain, although tries to sell himself as a maverick, has supported Bush's failed policies over 90 percent of the time. Obama isn't some baby deer that wondered out of the forest. He's an incredibly bright and knowledgable candidate with a record for those who care to look at it. On the most fundamental level, this election is a no-brainer - you either want to continue the direction we're going or you're ready for a change in direction. All talk of experience vs. inexperience, or who's pastor said what, VP's having babies....it's all a distraction from that fundamental aspect of this election.

McCain is the more experienced candidate across the board - period. I am certainly not questioning Obama's level of intelligence, but a reasonable IQ does not a good President make. Experience is not a distraction from the fundamental aspect of this election, and neither are the issues that have been raised along the way including Obama's relationship with known racist Jeremiah Wright, his land deal with Tony Rezko, and his relationship with self declared terrorist William Ayers. These are all extremely worrying and disturbing facts. Personally I would prefer a president who fought and suffered for his country, and who's running mate has a pregnant teenage daughter. No comparison really.

Experience is definitely not an indicator of success. Bush served as Governor of Texas before becoming president, and yet, has the lowest approval rating of any president. There are also presidents in our history that had hardly any experience in elected office, but yet history has regarded them quite well.

If you really care about the past, you can't ignore the Keating 5.

I care that Obama associates with known terrorists, that he is involved with shady land deals with even shadier individuals, and that he has such a close relationship with a racist bigot who spews absolute sh!t. Alarm bells !!!

[Cassie 8]

I don't think anyone is doubting that McCain has a lot of experience and Obama has very little.

But experience means jack squat when one's first important decision -- the picking of a running mate -- shows extraordinnary short-sightedness.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Experience is definitely not an indicator of success. Bush served as Governor of Texas before becoming president, and yet, has the lowest approval rating of any president. There are also presidents in our history that had hardly any experience in elected office, but yet history has regarded them quite well.

If you really care about the past, you can't ignore the Keating 5.

True. The DEMOCRAT controlled Congress has a lower approval rating than Bush. And most of them have been in federal office far longer than he has.

My objective opinion of how much legislation one should have under their belt before running for president is that I'm not all that excited about federal legislators running for president. Most have never met a payroll nor been an executive administrator. A sitting US senator hasn't been elected president since Kennedy in 1960, and there is a good reason for that.

Edited September 28, 2008 by Virtual wife

[Sofiyya 1,687]

I care that Obama associates with known terrorists, that he is involved with shady land deals with even shadier individuals, and that he has such a close relationship with a racist bigot who spews absolute sh!t. Alarm bells !!!

No one is allowed to talk about that. Except for being Black and a commuunity organizer, Obama guy didn't exist prior to entering the US Senate.

You get that!

Frankly, I don't understand how White folks can disregard the fact that he sat in the pews and listened to all that anti-white ####### for more than 20 years and still vote for him. That's why I believe most of this capitulation to him in the liberal media and populace is about White Guilt big time.

[Dan J 277]

I agree with the first part, so long as the politician can give a convincing reason why they changed their mind. So far, McCain hasn't been very convincing as to why he's changed his mind on a lot of key issues. As for Obama not having a record....what are you talking about? He has a solid record, however, he hasn't made Washington his home for 24 years like McCain has. Some find that more appealing...it's the outsider (Obama) vs. the insider (McCain).

I agree that some do find that appealing, I do myself at times. But the problems we are facing are huge, home and abroad. We are limited to two choices for President. Age and experience by a candidate who's party isn't in good standing with America's and the world opinion, or youth and talk of change by a inexperienced candidtate. I think the election is Obama's to lose. America will be taking a chance either way.

LOL...sorry but that rhetoric gets spewed out over and over ad nauseum...no sh!t we're taking a chance. You think anyone made that an issue with Dubbya? And look what a wonderful chance he's turn out to be.

This election is about two fundamentally different ideas of which direction this country should be going. McCain, although tries to sell himself as a maverick, has supported Bush's failed policies over 90 percent of the time. Obama isn't some baby deer that wondered out of the forest. He's an incredibly bright and knowledgable candidate with a record for those who care to look at it. On the most fundamental level, this election is a no-brainer - you either want to continue the direction we're going or you're ready for a change in direction. All talk of experience vs. inexperience, or who's pastor said what, VP's having babies....it's all a distraction from that fundamental aspect of this election.

McCain is the more experienced candidate across the board - period. I am certainly not questioning Obama's level of intelligence, but a reasonable IQ does not a good President make. Experience is not a distraction from the fundamental aspect of this election, and neither are the issues that have been raised along the way including Obama's relationship with known racist Jeremiah Wright, his land deal with Tony Rezko, and his relationship with self declared terrorist William Ayers. These are all extremely worrying and disturbing facts. Personally I would prefer a president who fought and suffered for his country, and who's running mate has a pregnant teenage daughter. No comparison really.

Experience is definitely not an indicator of success. Bush served as Governor of Texas before becoming president, and yet, has the lowest approval rating of any president. There are also presidents in our history that had hardly any experience in elected office, but yet history has regarded them quite well.

If you really care about the past, you can't ignore the Keating 5.

Also can't ignore Obama associates though but he is supposed to get a pass?

I wasn't the one bringing up past historical associations.

I hear you. I wouldn't either since Obama has a whopper of post associations to hide from.

McCain has quite a few problematic associations of his own. My point is simply, you cant make an opponents history a relevant issue without addressing your own.