Families making ICE raid checklists

[panamania79 2]

I'm sure Lou Dobbs is pretty popular with the same ladies who are huge fans of McCain. Over 80, diaper wearing, toothless Republicans.

Diana

Denture grippin',Geritol poppin, viejos-cacorros.

[Mononoke28 137]

Diana

[HAL 9000 96]

I'm sure Lou Dobbs is pretty popular with the same ladies who are huge fans of McCain. Over 80, diaper wearing, toothless Republicans.

Diana

Please don't offend the toothless.

In all honesty Lou Dobbs is just another wanker on TV spewing populist propaganda to make certain segments of the population feel good about themselves under the guise that its all for 'America.'

[Mononoke28 137]

Plus he has insanely white teeth? Have you noticed? Are those real?

Diana

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Plus he has insanely white teeth? Have you noticed? Are those real?

Diana

And the sickening light softening around him when his crappy show is on. I think that heightens the tooth-effect. Somebody should tell him to cut that out.

Yeah the teeth thing reminds me of that Friends episode where Ross overbleaches his pearly whites.

[Mononoke28 137]

Too bad the studio does not have black lighting. That would be aweeeeeeeeesome!

Diana

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Too bad the studio does not have black lighting. That would be aweeeeeeeeesome!

Diana

Even better would be replacing his show with Friends episodes... and I can tell you that I wouldn't waste my time watching Friends again.

[EstebanTrabajos 7]

Brothers, sisters,

Still wasting your time talking to walls?? It is like convincing the pope to get married.

Don't even bother, not all white folks are like them. One question, are they real white folks? or white wannabes that just because they hold an american passport they feel whiter than the whites themselves.

Edited August 13, 2008 by GueraYTavo

[HAL 9000 96]

Brothers, sisters,

Still wasting your time talking to walls?? It is like convincing the pope to get married.

Funny you mention that hermanito... while they couldn't marry, they still got it on back in the day...

So even the most obsessed can change...

[EstebanTrabajos 7]

But at least they kept quiet,

Not like these "individuals" (to be polite), who want to let everybody know how much they hate the brown man. This is just a reflection of how empty and/or unsuccessful their lives are.

Edited August 13, 2008 by GueraYTavo

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I'm not sure that the "brown card" is appropriate just yet... but one can only wonder how some folks' exposure to different races exposes what may be lurking underneath.

[EstebanTrabajos 7]

THAT, can just be answered by their shrinks. What drives that hate? Maybe they have never talked to a hispanic face to face and tried to look at them as human beings not as livestock or cleaning machines.

Weird thing is that whenever they encounter one of us that can reply to their comments, they don't even know what to do. There is no redneck to redneck conversation anymore and a conversation that had the same views and same opinion regarding illegal immigrants, which is "they are scum," turns into a real argument with valuable points of view.

They were brought up that way and there is no power in this world that will change their bigot minds.

I don't bother trying to talk to one of them, I know many white folks (including my in-laws) that have a sense of what they are talking about and with whom I enjoy having a discussion about this matter. There is nobody here that can give me a lecture about immigration law because I live in the border and I see the reality, and it is NOT as the media pictures it.

Edited August 13, 2008 by GueraYTavo

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Those are good points, Tavo. Some people have things that need to be vested by a shrink. Others need to calm the heck down and rationalize the reality of the entire situation instead of picking and choosing what seems to be the most obvious one.

[RobLynC 0]

I have just read all the way through this thread. I am about to become an immigrant in just a few weeks. My husband lives in South Florida and is surrounded every day by people he knows are illegal immigrants. I also have a friend, from here in the UK (and very much white) who is an illegal of sorts as she fraudulently entered on a VW after getting married to a USC.

As someone who has been made to live apart from her husband for the first year of marriage in order to be legal it is difficult to be sympathetic to those who try to short-circuit the immigration process, or ignore it altogether. Illegal immigration is not a race issue, nor is it a matter of bigotry. It is an issue of law. Breaking the law, even frustrating immigration law, shows that the person is not suitable to be admitted to the new country. If you want to move to a new country then you should be made to respect the laws of that country, ALL the laws of that country.

If you don't like the way illegal immigrants are treated or spoken about, then don't become an illegal immigrant, and don't encourage others to become so either.

Personally, if you choose to break the law then you deserve any and all mistreatment you incur. Follow the legal routes like the rest of us or stop complaining.

On the issue of citizenship by birth. I belong to one of those countries where you no longer receive citizenship just because you are born here. I personally think it is a wise policy. No country has an unlimited amount of resources to support those who won't support themselves. Having a baby within a countries borders should not be the only qualifier for citizenship, otherwise people will (and do) travel just before a baby is born just so they can short-circuit the immigration system. With the modern ease of travel between countries it is time to legislate for the world we actually live in.

Lyn

[peejay 327]

I have just read all the way through this thread. I am about to become an immigrant in just a few weeks. My husband lives in South Florida and is surrounded every day by people he knows are illegal immigrants. I also have a friend, from here in the UK (and very much white) who is an illegal of sorts as she fraudulently entered on a VW after getting married to a USC.

As someone who has been made to live apart from her husband for the first year of marriage in order to be legal it is difficult to be sympathetic to those who try to short-circuit the immigration process, or ignore it altogether. Illegal immigration is not a race issue, nor is it a matter of bigotry. It is an issue of law. Breaking the law, even frustrating immigration law, shows that the person is not suitable to be admitted to the new country. If you want to move to a new country then you should be made to respect the laws of that country, ALL the laws of that country.

If you don't like the way illegal immigrants are treated or spoken about, then don't become an illegal immigrant, and don't encourage others to become so either.

Personally, if you choose to break the law then you deserve any and all mistreatment you incur. Follow the legal routes like the rest of us or stop complaining.

On the issue of citizenship by birth. I belong to one of those countries where you no longer receive citizenship just because you are born here. I personally think it is a wise policy. No country has an unlimited amount of resources to support those who won't support themselves. Having a baby within a countries borders should not be the only qualifier for citizenship, otherwise people will (and do) travel just before a baby is born just so they can short-circuit the immigration system. With the modern ease of travel between countries it is time to legislate for the world we actually live in.

Lyn

You better watch out for the Tan Klan. Unless you believe that anyone who floats across the river in an innertube illegally, hires a coyote to enter the USA illegally, overstays a visa illegally, buys counterfeit documents, steals an American's identity, works illegally in violation of US law, lies, cheats, commits fraud, etc., etc., is entitled to US citizenship...then you will be a target of the illegal alien cheerleaders' wrath. Just take a gander at the venom in the previous posts. It speaks for itself.

Really...who are the haters here?