A bit Overwhelmed

[geogentry 0]

Greetings to all

I was referred here by a very dear person, my daughter. She too is going through this as she found her love overseas. She indicated this was the BEST place for information, and help. I think she was correct.

After spending the last 5 hours pouring through guides, forums and hints.. I may be overloaded... but know I am a bit overwhelmed with data. I looked for the latest posts, the newest information, and the latest guides.

I came to a conclusion... I need to ask the community at large a couple questions.

I have looked at the different requirements and the document needs, hints and tips are most helpful here as they cover things that I may have not thought of doing. I reviewed the K1 and K3 visa needs.. still foggy there so going back when mind clears a little.... and tried to make sense of everything. One thing I noted was with a K1 visa there seemed to be a great deal of effort and paperwork involved to show intent to marry and the actual ability to marry...

Then I compared timelines.. K1 appears to be longer by about 10% in time spent waiting than a K3.

Now to the question. I read several posts that say do not do a proxy marriage.. although it seemed a bit unclear as to the reason why. Is a proxy marriage, and yes I have already done research on this also, a bad idea considering the time line indicates a K3 is much faster and the amount of documentation appears less for a K3?

What additional problems might be faced with trying to bring a Wife to the USA to live versus trying to bring a Fiancée to the USA?

I am sure someone here must have stumbled down this path and have some sage advice to give.. or perhaps someone has a well of knowledge I might draw upon..

Thanks for your help

[*JG* 2]

In Jamaica, K-1's are about 7 months quicker then the K-3.

I think I would go into the forums that contain Norway and ask there. Someone may be able to guide you a little better.

The wait is all relative. There is nothing quick about this process.

Good luck to you.

[brnidokiegurl 1]

Either way your first mission would be to meet inperson and get to know. save all your evidences, trip evidences, pictures, chat, phone, letters whatever you do to stay in contact. Next K1 is to marry here k3/cr1 marry there and bring here. You two will need to decide this, timewise K1 is probably quickest but alot of other steps in adjusting etc after here. Cr1 alot of this is done ahead of time, they can work immediately and get the green card within weeks after arival but the cr1 does take longer so again its just whichever road you choose to go. Keep reading and asking questions, meet, get prepared and off you go. Good Luck Its not a quick process anyway you go.

[pushbrk 14,517]

Greetings to all

I was referred here by a very dear person, my daughter. She too is going through this as she found her love overseas. She indicated this was the BEST place for information, and help. I think she was correct.

After spending the last 5 hours pouring through guides, forums and hints.. I may be overloaded... but know I am a bit overwhelmed with data. I looked for the latest posts, the newest information, and the latest guides.

I came to a conclusion... I need to ask the community at large a couple questions.

I have looked at the different requirements and the document needs, hints and tips are most helpful here as they cover things that I may have not thought of doing. I reviewed the K1 and K3 visa needs.. still foggy there so going back when mind clears a little.... and tried to make sense of everything. One thing I noted was with a K1 visa there seemed to be a great deal of effort and paperwork involved to show intent to marry and the actual ability to marry...

Then I compared timelines.. K1 appears to be longer by about 10% in time spent waiting than a K3.

Now to the question. I read several posts that say do not do a proxy marriage.. although it seemed a bit unclear as to the reason why. Is a proxy marriage, and yes I have already done research on this also, a bad idea considering the time line indicates a K3 is much faster and the amount of documentation appears less for a K3?

What additional problems might be faced with trying to bring a Wife to the USA to live versus trying to bring a Fiancée to the USA?

I am sure someone here must have stumbled down this path and have some sage advice to give.. or perhaps someone has a well of knowledge I might draw upon..

Thanks for your help

I'm reading between the lines here so I might have a thing or two wrong. Since you mention proxy marriage, I'm wondering if you've met the foreigner in person yet. If not, you'll need to either way. You can't file for a fiancee you haven't met in person within the past two years and you cannot file for a proxy marriage spouse until after the marriage is "consumated", defined as having been together, in person after the proxy marriage.

That out of the way, marrying abroad carries at least as many hoops to jump through before marriage as those you saw for a fiance(e) filing. Further, timelines vary by country so overall timelines are meaningless to you.

I usually advise people to make the when and where of their marriage fit their life plan and personal goals/priorities, then file for the appropriate visa. If you want the foreign spouse to work soon after US arrival, generally the CR1 option is preferred over K3.

[KimandRuss 0]

K1 is actually faster but it depends very much on a) where you are filing and B) the Consulate you are dealing with.

Either way 'proof of relationship' is needed... but it's nothing that you shouldn't already have if you've met in the last two years.

proxy marriage is 'allowed' and others have done it but there may be certain states/countries that have different laws. You'd be best to ask that question in the spousal visa forums.

[geogentry 0]

Either way your first mission would be to meet inperson and get to know. save all your evidences, trip evidences, pictures, chat, phone, letters whatever you do to stay in contact. Next K1 is to marry here k3/cr1 marry there and bring here. You two will need to decide this, timewise K1 is probably quickest but alot of other steps in adjusting etc after here. Cr1 alot of this is done ahead of time, they can work immediately and get the green card within weeks after arival but the cr1 does take longer so again its just whichever road you choose to go. Keep reading and asking questions, meet, get prepared and off you go. Good Luck Its not a quick process anyway you go.

Oh she has already come over to visit.. spent 5 weeks here.. so we have had time to decide if we want to be together permanently. Yes I know it takes time.. that I think is the final test.. will the stress kill us before we can be together

[brnidokiegurl 1]

well good u have met, now if you can maybe go there, get a trip or two down, meet all the family, not always necessary but trips do seem to help. Now just decide to marry here or there.....and then on to the next step. Sorry if i missed the location she is from...this might help in the deciding for the time and marriage situation...some are easier than others. NAW if wont kill you but at time you will think it has, all filings get us down at times..but just look around we are most in same boat just waiting

[pushbrk 14,517]

Either way your first mission would be to meet inperson and get to know. save all your evidences, trip evidences, pictures, chat, phone, letters whatever you do to stay in contact. Next K1 is to marry here k3/cr1 marry there and bring here. You two will need to decide this, timewise K1 is probably quickest but alot of other steps in adjusting etc after here. Cr1 alot of this is done ahead of time, they can work immediately and get the green card within weeks after arival but the cr1 does take longer so again its just whichever road you choose to go. Keep reading and asking questions, meet, get prepared and off you go. Good Luck Its not a quick process anyway you go.

Oh she has already come over to visit.. spent 5 weeks here.. so we have had time to decide if we want to be together permanently. Yes I know it takes time.. that I think is the final test.. will the stress kill us before we can be together

Visits and webcams to the rescue.

[geogentry 0]

More reading and I am unsure on one point...

Having read over and over.. and what seems endless information, I find that the initial package it the key to a quick approval in the whole process. But a question has arisen. I know the I-129f and the G-325A must happen. But is the I-134 also one I need to work on getting in order? I am promising to marry the Lady and my understanding of being married is that I would not allow my wife to become a public charge. But that does not mean the government does not wish to see this in writing. And is this the only three primary forms I must file to get this whole thing rolling?

Thanks so much again for your help

[pushbrk 14,517]

More reading and I am unsure on one point...

Having read over and over.. and what seems endless information, I find that the initial package it the key to a quick approval in the whole process. But a question has arisen. I know the I-129f and the G-325A must happen. But is the I-134 also one I need to work on getting in order? I am promising to marry the Lady and my understanding of being married is that I would not allow my wife to become a public charge. But that does not mean the government does not wish to see this in writing. And is this the only three primary forms I must file to get this whole thing rolling?

Thanks so much again for your help

The I-129F instructions will tell you what needs to be filed with the petition. No, the I-134 is not on that list. You fill it out as close to the interview date as practical and provide it and the supporting documentation to you fiancee at that time.