An open letter to the political posters

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

My sentiments exactly.

Yup. I get sick of the whole US "We can't talk politics in polite company" thing. Would they rather talk politics in rude company? Or perhaps just avoid the subject, and elect a moron as president?

Isn't that the whole problem? Politics apparently can only be discussed in rude company - just look at the standard of debate, the popularity of these extremist pundits on all sides of the political spectrum!

And much of the problem is not the politics, but the company!

[antone 0]

It bugged me that people were so cut up about his death, when the man wasn't all that sympathetic to begin with.

At risk of restarting a year-old debate, heh, I know what you're saying. I mean, John Smith of Basingstoke devoted his life to helping the poor, but we didn't cry crocodile tears when he died.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

It bugged me that people were so cut up about his death, when the man wasn't all that sympathetic to begin with.

At risk of restarting a year-old debate, heh, I know what you're saying. I mean, John Smith of Basingstoke devoted his life to helping the poor, but we didn't cry crocodile tears when he died.

Same with Diana. Doesn't it piss you off how everyone bangs on about how much she did so much to rid the world of land-mines - when in fact years before she came on the scene there was already a working agreement in place for the non-use of anti-personnell mines. Except that the only countries who still to this day refuse to commit to it are:

US

Russia

China

Bit of a waste of time if you ask me.

[dalegg 143]

Why would I care if someone called me a liberal?

Because you might not be a liberal? Who wants to be misrepresented as something they aren't?

That depends, if you want to say I'm a gentleman, then I wouldn't be so offended, but if you called me a child beater, I'd have a problem with that because it could affect how people that mean anything to me think about me. But I don't think of liberals (or progressives) as bad people per say so it wouldn't really offend me like that. I'd just chuckle a bit.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

That depends, if you want to say I'm a gentleman, then I wouldn't be so offended, but if you called me a child beater, I'd have a problem with that because it could affect how people that mean anything to me think about me. But I don't think of liberals (or progressives) as bad people per say so it wouldn't really offend me like that. I'd just chuckle a bit.

Well my whole point has been that the term 'liberal' has become a derogatory one, and has been used as a dumping ground for any position or opinion that doesn't match the perceived popular majority.

Do you remember that guy from last year (he doesn't post here anymore) who started this big thread blaming his 'liberal' neighbours for trying to stop him converting his front yard into a japanese garden because it conflicted with the character of the neighbourhood.

That man certainly lives in a 'Liberal' community

[Cassie 8]

That depends, if you want to say I'm a gentleman, then I wouldn't be so offended, but if you called me a child beater, I'd have a problem with that because it could affect how people that mean anything to me think about me. But I don't think of liberals (or progressives) as bad people per say so it wouldn't really offend me like that. I'd just chuckle a bit.

Well my whole point has been that the term 'liberal' has become a derogatory one, and has been used as a dumping ground for any position or opinion that doesn't match the perceived popular majority.

Do you remember that guy from last year (he doesn't post here anymore) who started this big thread blaming his 'liberal' neighbours for trying to stop him converting his front yard into a japanese garden because it conflicted with the character of the neighbourhood.

That man certainly lives in a 'Liberal' community

Yes, and I often wonder what eventually happened to him and his front yard of concrete sans next door lady's rose bushes.......

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Well if he broke any legal agreement promising to maintain the character of the neighbourhood:

Court... and a long summer chipping up the concrete with a pickaxe.

[dalegg 143]

Well my whole point has been that the term 'liberal' has become a derogatory one, and has been used as a dumping ground for any position or opinion that doesn't match the perceived popular majority.

Do you remember that guy from last year (he doesn't post here anymore) who started this big thread blaming his 'liberal' neighbours for trying to stop him converting his front yard into a japanese garden because it conflicted with the character of the neighbourhood.

That man certainly lives in a 'Liberal' community

I'm trying to decide if this makes his neighbors progressive or conservative.

[almaty 19]

Well if he broke any legal agreement promising to maintain the character of the neighbourhood:

Court... and a long summer chipping up the concrete with a pickaxe.

he also claim it was racial later on...

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Well my whole point has been that the term 'liberal' has become a derogatory one, and has been used as a dumping ground for any position or opinion that doesn't match the perceived popular majority.

Do you remember that guy from last year (he doesn't post here anymore) who started this big thread blaming his 'liberal' neighbours for trying to stop him converting his front yard into a japanese garden because it conflicted with the character of the neighbourhood.

That man certainly lives in a 'Liberal' community

I'm trying to decide if this makes his neighbors progressive or conservative.

Well that sort of homeowners association is pretty clearly conservative. But that doesn't necessarily reflect the residents political views.

Well if he broke any legal agreement promising to maintain the character of the neighbourhood:

Court... and a long summer chipping up the concrete with a pickaxe.

he also claim it was racial later on...

He would.

[dalegg 143]

Well my whole point has been that the term 'liberal' has become a derogatory one, and has been used as a dumping ground for any position or opinion that doesn't match the perceived popular majority.

Do you remember that guy from last year (he doesn't post here anymore) who started this big thread blaming his 'liberal' neighbours for trying to stop him converting his front yard into a japanese garden because it conflicted with the character of the neighbourhood.

That man certainly lives in a 'Liberal' community

I'm trying to decide if this makes his neighbors progressive or conservative.

Well that sort of homeowners association is pretty clearly conservative. But that doesn't necessarily reflect the residents political views.

Maybe. But a homeowners association in itself sounds like a progressive idea.

"Progressivism is a political philosophy whose adherents promote public policies that they believe would lead to positive social change. "

"Conservatism is a philosophy defined as "a disposition to preserve, and an ability to improve"

This could mean in the short term that they want to preserve the look of the neighborhood, but going back to the beginning homeowners could build their homes the way they wanted to and preserving this right could be thought of as a conservative thought.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Well my whole point has been that the term 'liberal' has become a derogatory one, and has been used as a dumping ground for any position or opinion that doesn't match the perceived popular majority.

Do you remember that guy from last year (he doesn't post here anymore) who started this big thread blaming his 'liberal' neighbours for trying to stop him converting his front yard into a japanese garden because it conflicted with the character of the neighbourhood.

That man certainly lives in a 'Liberal' community

I'm trying to decide if this makes his neighbors progressive or conservative.

Well that sort of homeowners association is pretty clearly conservative. But that doesn't necessarily reflect the residents political views.

Maybe. But a homeowners association in itself sounds like a progressive idea.

"Progressivism is a political philosophy whose adherents promote public policies that they believe would lead to positive social change. "

"Conservatism is a philosophy defined as "a disposition to preserve, and an ability to improve"

This could mean in the short term that they want to preserve the look of the neighborhood, but going back to the beginning homeowners could build their homes the way they wanted to and preserving this right could be thought of as a conservative thought.

Well the point is I guess that there are no absolutes.

Edited May 13, 2006 by Fishdude

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Well my whole point has been that the term 'liberal' has become a derogatory one, and has been used as a dumping ground for any position or opinion that doesn't match the perceived popular majority.

Do you remember that guy from last year (he doesn't post here anymore) who started this big thread blaming his 'liberal' neighbours for trying to stop him converting his front yard into a japanese garden because it conflicted with the character of the neighbourhood.

That man certainly lives in a 'Liberal' community

I'm trying to decide if this makes his neighbors progressive or conservative.

Well that sort of homeowners association is pretty clearly conservative. But that doesn't necessarily reflect the residents political views.

Maybe. But a homeowners association in itself sounds like a progressive idea.

"Progressivism is a political philosophy whose adherents promote public policies that they believe would lead to positive social change. "

"Conservatism is a philosophy defined as "a disposition to preserve, and an ability to improve"

This could mean in the short term that they want to preserve the look of the neighborhood, but going back to the beginning homeowners could build their homes the way they wanted to and preserving this right could be thought of as a conservative thought.

Well the point is I guess that there are no absolutes.

Is "there are no absolutes" an absolute?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Well my whole point has been that the term 'liberal' has become a derogatory one, and has been used as a dumping ground for any position or opinion that doesn't match the perceived popular majority.

Do you remember that guy from last year (he doesn't post here anymore) who started this big thread blaming his 'liberal' neighbours for trying to stop him converting his front yard into a japanese garden because it conflicted with the character of the neighbourhood.

That man certainly lives in a 'Liberal' community

I'm trying to decide if this makes his neighbors progressive or conservative.

Well that sort of homeowners association is pretty clearly conservative. But that doesn't necessarily reflect the residents political views.

Maybe. But a homeowners association in itself sounds like a progressive idea.

"Progressivism is a political philosophy whose adherents promote public policies that they believe would lead to positive social change. "

"Conservatism is a philosophy defined as "a disposition to preserve, and an ability to improve"

This could mean in the short term that they want to preserve the look of the neighborhood, but going back to the beginning homeowners could build their homes the way they wanted to and preserving this right could be thought of as a conservative thought.

Well the point is I guess that there are no absolutes.

Is "there are no absolutes" an absolute?

Sure.

[dalegg 143]

Well the point is I guess that there are no absolutes.

Is "there are no absolutes" an absolute?

absolutely