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ANd yet when the ####### is slung around about another candidate, then, well, it's just hogwash and doesn't matter... :whistle:

Well it is really isn't it... I mean we're at the point of analysing random statements made at campaign rallies

These things might make for embarrassing verbal glitches but there isn't really much substance behind (most) of them. I don't buy the idea, for example, that McCain's comments about Czechoslovakia make him a candidate for Alzheimer's - or that Hillary's comments about Bosnia make her a liar (or that her recent reference to RFK means that she's somehow holding out for Obama to be assassinated).

Most of these things are (fun), but they aren't any more than that - certainly not enough to say "Oh, I'm not voting Obama - he thinks he sees dead people" - Yet these things seem to attract 90% of everyone's attention.

Wouldn't it be nice to win or lose an election strictly on the basis of what you (personally) said or did, rather than this "where there's smoke there's fire" nudge-nudge, wink-wink stuff.

Well, this sort of thing may not matter to you and especially to the Obama worshipers but to me it says something about his character. Whether or not this represents his views it does show that he is at least sympathetic to ideas like this. I don't know anyone that would attend a particular church for 20 years that can then say he does not hold with what was being said in that church. His other associations also give an insight into his character that will get a lot of play. His close association with Ayers and the weather underground will get some play. The fact he was willing to serve on the same board with him, go to his home and say he has a "friendly" relationship with an admitted terrorist says volumes of his character or at least his lack of judgment. For me and for a large portion of America that hasn't tasted the koolaid will see this as important.

I think a lot of people have an inordinate focus on how a candidate appears, and not what they actually stand for in terms of policy (i.e. what their being in office will actually do for people's quality of life).

You don't find that a little strange?

No.

Considering O & H have almost similar policies (except his HC), it has to come into play. It's called the whole package.

Actually I tend to look at it as fixating on the wrapping paper while ignoring the gift.

The issues are already well known. Obama wants to surrender in Iraq, talk to terrorists countries in a vain attempt to talk them out of their hatred of us, raise our taxes, ruin our health care and march us toward socialism. McCain wants to win in Iraq, lower our taxes , fix but not junk the health care system and strengthen our democracy. It has never been a more stark choice. So the only thing left is to poke fun at the other side. Not to convince but to show my contempt for Obama.

Wait til he goes to big scary EYE-RaQ to show he KNOWS FOREIGN POLICY, I'm sure he will have lots of interesting gaffes!!! Maybe even sniper fire!!! :lol:

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The issues are already well known. Obama wants to surrender in Iraq, talk to terrorists countries in a vain attempt to talk them out of their hatred of us, raise our taxes, ruin our health care and march us toward socialism. McCain wants to win in Iraq, lower our taxes , fix but not junk the health care system and strengthen our democracy. It has never been a more stark choice. So the only thing left is to poke fun at the other side. Not to convince but to show my contempt for Obama.

So in other words....do nothing of real value...

Why don't you have contempt for Hillary? Just curious...

I have the same contempt for Hillary. On the issues they are about the same. But since Hillary isn't going to be the nominee there isn't any point in poking fun at her.

okie dokie.... carry on...

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I know I'll get grief for saying this, but if a white presidential candidate participated in a religious organization regularly for decades leading up to his/her presidential run that exhibited leanings towards ethnically/racially prejudiced and/or religiously prejudiced beliefs, he would not even be considered a viable candidate. Why different standards for Obama?

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Wait til he goes to big scary EYE-RaQ to show he KNOWS FOREIGN POLICY, I'm sure he will have lots of interesting gaffes!!! Maybe even sniper fire!!! :lol:

and he may even have to dodge sniper fire.. :o

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I know I'll get grief for saying this, but if a white presidential candidate participated in a religious organization regularly for decades leading up to his/her presidential run that exhibited leanings towards ethnically/racially prejudiced and/or religiously prejudiced beliefs, he would not even be considered a viable candidate. Why different standards for Obama?

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It's called a double standard.

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I know I'll get grief for saying this, but if a white presidential candidate participated in a religious organization regularly for decades leading up to his/her presidential run that exhibited leanings towards ethnically/racially prejudiced and/or religiously prejudiced beliefs, he would not even be considered a viable candidate. Why different standards for Obama?

You mean all those candidates of decades past with established links to Baptist churches?

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ANd yet when the ####### is slung around about another candidate, then, well, it's just hogwash and doesn't matter... :whistle:

Well it is really isn't it... I mean we're at the point of analysing random statements made at campaign rallies

These things might make for embarrassing verbal glitches but there isn't really much substance behind (most) of them. I don't buy the idea, for example, that McCain's comments about Czechoslovakia make him a candidate for Alzheimer's - or that Hillary's comments about Bosnia make her a liar (or that her recent reference to RFK means that she's somehow holding out for Obama to be assassinated).

Most of these things are (fun), but they aren't any more than that - certainly not enough to say "Oh, I'm not voting Obama - he thinks he sees dead people" - Yet these things seem to attract 90% of everyone's attention.

Wouldn't it be nice to win or lose an election strictly on the basis of what you (personally) said or did, rather than this "where there's smoke there's fire" nudge-nudge, wink-wink stuff.

Well, this sort of thing may not matter to you and especially to the Obama worshipers but to me it says something about his character. Whether or not this represents his views it does show that he is at least sympathetic to ideas like this. I don't know anyone that would attend a particular church for 20 years that can then say he does not hold with what was being said in that church. His other associations also give an insight into his character that will get a lot of play. His close association with Ayers and the weather underground will get some play. The fact he was willing to serve on the same board with him, go to his home and say he has a "friendly" relationship with an admitted terrorist says volumes of his character or at least his lack of judgment. For me and for a large portion of America that hasn't tasted the koolaid will see this as important.

I think a lot of people have an inordinate focus on how a candidate appears, and not what they actually stand for in terms of policy (i.e. what their being in office will actually do for people's quality of life).

You don't find that a little strange?

No.

Considering O & H have almost similar policies (except his HC), it has to come into play. It's called the whole package.

Actually I tend to look at it as fixating on the wrapping paper while ignoring the gift.

The issues are already well known. Obama wants to surrender in Iraq, talk to terrorists countries in a vain attempt to talk them out of their hatred of us, raise our taxes, ruin our health care and march us toward socialism. McCain wants to win in Iraq, lower our taxes , fix but not junk the health care system and strengthen our democracy. It has never been a more stark choice. So the only thing left is to poke fun at the other side. Not to convince but to show my contempt for Obama.

Wait til he goes to big scary EYE-RaQ to show he KNOWS FOREIGN POLICY, I'm sure he will have lots of interesting gaffes!!! Maybe even sniper fire!!! :lol:

He's already gone to EYE-RaQ. :P

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Pick your package...

Shrill manipulative liar

Inexperienced liar with bad associations

Ancient clueless liar

:wacko:

Sounds like a fun party...

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You hit the nail right on!!!

We're pretty much screwed again. Maybe we should be working on visas to get out..... :whistle:

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I know I'll get grief for saying this, but if a white presidential candidate participated in a religious organization regularly for decades leading up to his/her presidential run that exhibited leanings towards ethnically/racially prejudiced and/or religiously prejudiced beliefs, he would not even be considered a viable candidate. Why different standards for Obama?

You mean all those candidates of decades past with established links to Baptist churches?

Practicing a bit of over generalization are we? Oh, sorry. We all know all baptist churches are filled with racists.

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He's already gone to EYE-RaQ. :P

Barack Obama — increasingly under fire from John McCain as he appears poised to win the Democratic nomination — said he is considering a trip to Iraq but dismissed as a "political stunt" an invitation by the Republican candidate to make the visit together.

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The Republican Party joined the fray Wednesday by launching an online clock to count the days since Obama last visited the war zone. By their count, it has been 871 days.

Obama, who spoke to reporters on his airplane Wednesday night as he flew home to Chicago, said it's "not relevant" that he has not been to Iraq since 2006 and that McCain was using the argument as a diversion.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jld3VIL...gBnGqwD90VE1RG0

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I know I'll get grief for saying this, but if a white presidential candidate participated in a religious organization regularly for decades leading up to his/her presidential run that exhibited leanings towards ethnically/racially prejudiced and/or religiously prejudiced beliefs, he would not even be considered a viable candidate. Why different standards for Obama?

You mean all those candidates of decades past with established links to Baptist churches?

Practicing a bit of over generalization are we? Oh, sorry. We all know all baptist churches are filled with racists.

Well I should say I'm not surprised by the overreaction there - so it'll probably come as no surprise if I point out the obvious that: no - I don't think that way about all Baptist churches or churchgoers.

My knowledge of US history being limited to what it is - you can perhaps correct me if I'm wrong when I say that none of the presidents who have served (at least) in the last century have stood on an atheist platform or have not been a congregation member in some church or other.

We're all standing around umming and ah-ing over the likes John Hagee, Jeremiah Wright, Al Sharpton and Jerry Falwell without acknowledging the simple fact that people like this have been around since the year dot, and their links to elected officials and national politics are well-established and well-known.

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He's already gone to EYE-RaQ. :P

Barack Obama — increasingly under fire from John McCain as he appears poised to win the Democratic nomination — said he is considering a trip to Iraq but dismissed as a "political stunt" an invitation by the Republican candidate to make the visit together.

---

The Republican Party joined the fray Wednesday by launching an online clock to count the days since Obama last visited the war zone. By their count, it has been 871 days.

Obama, who spoke to reporters on his airplane Wednesday night as he flew home to Chicago, said it's "not relevant" that he has not been to Iraq since 2006 and that McCain was using the argument as a diversion.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jld3VIL...gBnGqwD90VE1RG0

uh huh? so what is it that is new(s) here?

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He's already gone to EYE-RaQ. :P

Barack Obama — increasingly under fire from John McCain as he appears poised to win the Democratic nomination — said he is considering a trip to Iraq but dismissed as a "political stunt" an invitation by the Republican candidate to make the visit together.

---

The Republican Party joined the fray Wednesday by launching an online clock to count the days since Obama last visited the war zone. By their count, it has been 871 days.

Obama, who spoke to reporters on his airplane Wednesday night as he flew home to Chicago, said it's "not relevant" that he has not been to Iraq since 2006 and that McCain was using the argument as a diversion.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jld3VIL...gBnGqwD90VE1RG0

uh huh? so what is it that is new(s) here?

Not a lot...

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He's already gone to EYE-RaQ. :P

Barack Obama — increasingly under fire from John McCain as he appears poised to win the Democratic nomination — said he is considering a trip to Iraq but dismissed as a "political stunt" an invitation by the Republican candidate to make the visit together.

---

The Republican Party joined the fray Wednesday by launching an online clock to count the days since Obama last visited the war zone. By their count, it has been 871 days.

Obama, who spoke to reporters on his airplane Wednesday night as he flew home to Chicago, said it's "not relevant" that he has not been to Iraq since 2006 and that McCain was using the argument as a diversion.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jld3VIL...gBnGqwD90VE1RG0

uh huh? so what is it that is new(s) here?

read the thread? :rolleyes:

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He's already gone to EYE-RaQ. :P

Barack Obama — increasingly under fire from John McCain as he appears poised to win the Democratic nomination — said he is considering a trip to Iraq but dismissed as a "political stunt" an invitation by the Republican candidate to make the visit together.

---

The Republican Party joined the fray Wednesday by launching an online clock to count the days since Obama last visited the war zone. By their count, it has been 871 days.

Obama, who spoke to reporters on his airplane Wednesday night as he flew home to Chicago, said it's "not relevant" that he has not been to Iraq since 2006 and that McCain was using the argument as a diversion.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jld3VIL...gBnGqwD90VE1RG0

uh huh? so what is it that is new(s) here?

Not a lot...

Yeah nothing really new there. Perhaps the fact that he's focusing on issues Americans are more interested in, like the economic fallout of papa George's adventures.

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