cigarette anyone?thorazine?lolololol

[Ban Hammer 15,131]

I was sickened by yesterday's threads. Not about the divorce or the smoking but about the fact that this woman doesn't even really want her child. I lost my baby last week and I'm sick about it. Heartbroken doesn't even begin to cover it. For someone to not appreciate the miracle that they are given is repulsive.

BTW...I bought me a pack of ciggies last night and smoked 'em. I enjoyed myself.

oh moody i'm sorry

[morocco4ever 63]

I was sickened by yesterday's threads. Not about the divorce or the smoking but about the fact that this woman doesn't even really want her child. I lost my baby last week and I'm sick about it. Heartbroken doesn't even begin to cover it. For someone to not appreciate the miracle that they are given is repulsive.

BTW...I bought me a pack of ciggies last night and smoked 'em. I enjoyed myself.

I'm so sorry.

[ya falaha! 0]

Why not just meet a non smoker? There are plenty of non smoking men in this world. Why in hell would you marry someone knowing they have a habit you detest? Never bank on anyone who says they'll stop a habit for you. I have a feeling it's just a sick conquest of sorts.

[sereia 0]

why do women always think they can change men? it really boggles my mind. i knew my husband smoked when i met him (and i also DETEST smoking) but i chose to be with him anyway. if he quits? EXCELLENT! if he doesn't? this his ####### can smoke outside and brush his teeth before we kiss! lol

but to expect him to quit without helping him in any sort of way? and dumping him when you're eight month's pregnant and threatening he won't ever see his child (that only HE wanted anyway?)

just EXTREMELY mind boggling.

[Aymerlu 3]

QUOTE(bridget @ Apr 1 2008, 09:30 AM) I can't watch these at work but I wanted to stress to all that are pregnant how whacked out the hormones can make you. I remember I was like 30 weeks along or something with my first and I was looking outside and there were a string of ducks walking on the street....a mama duck and a few baby ducks. I bawled my eyes out for like an hour because I wanted to bring them to a pond since I knew they were lost but I was too scared so I called my husband and he wouldn't come and get the ducks since he was at work and I didnt' talk to him for a good week because of it.

All laughing aside,I feel really sorry for him.She is by far a good reason for adjusting status without the spouse.I hope he prints up the horrible things she said and fights for custody. I hope people help him.She doesnt deserve a child at all and I feel horribly sorry for him

I just couldn't believe what I was reading last night. It sent chills down my spine, I got home too late to reply, but as I was reading through the pages and each of her remarks, I came to realize there is really nothing to say. You can't talk or reason with a brick wall.

I lost 3 babies myself;and wallahi it just breaks my heart that some people don't really appreciate what they have and say things perhaps in so much anger that they don't realize what they're actually saying. But words do come back to haunt them at some point in their lives.

I feel sorry for everyone involved (cause I really want to think that what she said was in anger and not her true feelings), but I feel compassion especially for the baby who did nothing to deserve such harsh words.

If she's reading this, please take a moment and think of those of us who's arms feel empty for the ones we've lost, cause no matter if I already have 2 children (alhamdulillah for them), or how much time goes by, my heart still breaks for the ones I didn't get a chance to hold. I'll pray for you.

Hugs,

Ayesha

And all I want is to have a baby to hold

[amal 4]

I was sickened by yesterday's threads. Not about the divorce or the smoking but about the fact that this woman doesn't even really want her child. I lost my baby last week and I'm sick about it. Heartbroken doesn't even begin to cover it. For someone to not appreciate the miracle that they are given is repulsive.

BTW...I bought me a pack of ciggies last night and smoked 'em. I enjoyed myself.

oh moody i'm sorry

OMG I'm so sorry to hear this.

If this girls baby is unwanted, I'll adopt it, bring it on over. If it is wanted, for goodness sake, please try to figure something out to fix this.

I have soooooooooooooooo many negative things I would like to say to her but honestly, everybody has their own views (wether good , bad, acceptable , not acceptable) and thats what makes us human. I hate hearing what she's done..as a matter of fact, it is almost that she was the one that used him. For what reason, I dunno..but that is what it sounds more and more like to me.... poor guy.

[ya falaha! 0]

Thank you, everyone.

[Aymerlu 3]

I was sickened by yesterday's threads. Not about the divorce or the smoking but about the fact that this woman doesn't even really want her child. I lost my baby last week and I'm sick about it. Heartbroken doesn't even begin to cover it. For someone to not appreciate the miracle that they are given is repulsive.

BTW...I bought me a pack of ciggies last night and smoked 'em. I enjoyed myself.

I'm so sorry.

{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}} I totally understand you.

[SaadBell 0]

Bridget - join the been married to a sociopath club, me too, and to make it even more perfect a police officer. Lots of socialpaths do law work, or want to be involved in some kind of work that gives them power. Trained professionals are always fooled by these people, they are intellengent most of the time, and they know the right words, because really they are not crazy, they are just different. You are lucky you got away before he could further destroy you. They enjoy hurting others, it is just a big game to them. I always remember this passage from Dr. Robert Hare:

"He will choose you, disarm you with his words, and control you with his presence. He will delight you with his wit and his plans. He will show you a good time, but you will always get the bill. He will smile and deceive you, and he will scare you with his eyes. And when he is through with you, and he will be through with you, he will desert you and take with him your innocence and your pride. You will be left much sadder but not a lot wiser, and for a long time you will wonder what happened and what you did wrong. And if another of his kind comes knocking at your door, will you open it?"

[Ban Hammer 15,131]

more on this very subject here:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...p;#entry1714295

[Marry American 0]

the guy in that cartoon looks kinda like homegirl's husband... "the smoker"

No he actually reminds me of your husband - the smoker

[Marry American 0]

QUOTE(bridget @ Apr 1 2008, 09:30 AM) I can't watch these at work but I wanted to stress to all that are pregnant how whacked out the hormones can make you. I remember I was like 30 weeks along or something with my first and I was looking outside and there were a string of ducks walking on the street....a mama duck and a few baby ducks. I bawled my eyes out for like an hour because I wanted to bring them to a pond since I knew they were lost but I was too scared so I called my husband and he wouldn't come and get the ducks since he was at work and I didnt' talk to him for a good week because of it.

All laughing aside,I feel really sorry for him.She is by far a good reason for adjusting status without the spouse.I hope he prints up the horrible things she said and fights for custody. I hope people help him.She doesnt deserve a child at all and I feel horribly sorry for him

I just couldn't believe what I was reading last night. It sent chills down my spine, I got home too late to reply, but as I was reading through the pages and each of her remarks, I came to realize there is really nothing to say. You can't talk or reason with a brick wall.

I lost 3 babies myself;and wallahi it just breaks my heart that some people don't really appreciate what they have and say things perhaps in so much anger that they don't realize what they're actually saying. But words do come back to haunt them at some point in their lives.

I feel sorry for everyone involved (cause I really want to think that what she said was in anger and not her true feelings), but I feel compassion especially for the baby who did nothing to deserve such harsh words.

If she's reading this, please take a moment and think of those of us who's arms feel empty for the ones we've lost, cause no matter if I already have 2 children (alhamdulillah for them), or how much time goes by, my heart still breaks for the ones I didn't get a chance to hold. I'll pray for you.

Hugs,

Ayesha

I only lost one, but that haunts me to this day. With each pregnancy I would have the same dream. The doctor delivered my baby and announced "its a girl, and she's dead". I can't tell you how many times I woke up crying. A baby is a gift to us from God. He trusts us to take care and love these little spirits. I can never imagine regretting any of my children no matter what their father did.

What bothered me about the conversations is how she stressed her money and how much more she makes than him. I make probably 4 times my husbands wage as well....so what, probably the majority of women here do as well. It is our money not mine or his. When we go out to dinner we both pay for it. How degrading for any man to be made to feel that he doesn't contribute enough in his wifes eyes. I don't know how valid the excuse is that the entire things were due to hormones. I have had 5 pregnancies and although I was emotional and cried of life saver commercials, I was never cruel.

I'm glad you are concerned about my husband's income. He works for the railroad so he earns a decent living. I just earn more. We place our money in an account that we both share and have access to. It is our money.

I added the comment about that I was still working because everyone during thtantrum assumes that I was unemployed and using him for his money. We are as one.

Edited April 1, 2008 by Marry American

[morocco4ever 63]

Your so called joke was plain cruel and evil. Can't you see the effect your joke was? You need to grow up!

[caybee 21]

Some of us never said a word last night, not knowing what to say, not wanting to say the wrong thing in a situation that looked so desperately painful to all concerned. I for one was hurting silently for you and your husband and your unborn daughter last night, Julie. I don't care if you write me off as just a glob of pixels, an object of your derision, as you did everyone else. That's easy and cold and cowardly. I'm a human being, and you and I have never, ever traded a harsh word here. I've followed your pregnancy with all the others, wished you the best all along even if I haven't always done so in writing. I'm sure it is the same for many others who were shocked and genuinely upset last night by what you wrote last night. An April Fools joke may cause embarrassment, even momentary frustration, but this was beyond a joke, and dressing it up like one won't make it so. April 1 was your excuse to cause pain and havoc here. You have no way of knowing who you may have alienated with this stunt.

[Fandango 1,440]

That 'joke' is bollox if you ask me....'no truer a word said in jest'. the language and the depth of competitiveness, resentment, selfishness, etc that MA displayed yesterday did not fall outta the sky.........