POLL: Should She Stay or Should She Go?

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Democrats by more than a 2-1 margin say Hillary Clinton should stay in the presidential race even if she loses either the Texas or Ohio primary on Tuesday. But if she fails in both, fewer than half say they'd want her to fight on.

The lead overall is now Barack Obama's. With his string of 11 consecutive primary and caucus victories, Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents by a 50-43 percent margin would like to see him nominated. That's a remarkable reversal: Clinton held a vast lead in ABC News/Washington Post polls before the Iowa caucuses. Campaigns clearly matter.

Despite the overall preference for Obama, Democrats by a very wide 67-29% say Clinton should stay in the race even if she loses either Texas or Ohio. But if she were to lose both, far fewer say they'd want her to continue – 45%, with 51% saying otherwise.

Prospective attitudes, of course, can shift with events -- as vote preferences themselves have shown. At the same time, some within the Clinton campaign, as well as other Democrats, have described Ohio and Texas as must-wins.

VEEP -- If she were to fail, many Democrats have a runner-up prize in mind. Asked whom they'd like Obama to pick for vice president, should he win the nomination, 36% name Clinton, a broad level of agreement on an open-ended question.

An additional 11% of Democrats suggest John Edwards, 3% Bill Richardson, 1% Al Gore and 1% Joe Biden. Clinton leads among all groups, notably among women -- 41% pick her for vice president, compared with 28% of men.

There's less agreement on the Republican side, where John McCain has a chance to wrap up the nomination on Tuesday. Seventeen percent of Republicans and GOP-leaning independents say that if he does win, they'd like to see his last standing opponent, Mike Huckabee, on the ticket — half as many as pick Clinton on the Democratic side.

Eleven percent of Republicans prefer Mitt Romney, with seven other possible picks registering 1 to 3 percent.

In the Republican race a plurality has no opinion on a hypothetical McCain running-mate. Among Democrats, about as many have no opinion as pick Clinton -- evidence in both cases that it's the top of the ticket that carries the weight.

STAY or GO -- It's notable that nearly half of Obama's supporters say that a Clinton loss in either Ohio or Texas should not be enough to force her out of the race; it could be that these Democrats simply are enjoying the contest. (Moderates who prefer Obama, rather than liberals, in particular say she should stay in.)

If she were to lose both states, far fewer Obama supporters -- 26 percent -- say she should keep running. There's also attrition among Clinton's own supporters -- if she loses one state, 91 percent say she should fight on; if she loses both states, 69 percent.

Two groups, in particular, shift from saying Clinton should stay if she loses one race to saying she should go if she loses both: White men and high-income Democrats. If she were to lose one state, 68 percent of white men say she should remain in the race; if she were to lose both, that drops to 36 percent, a 32-point drop. The decline among white women is much smaller, 19 points.

Similarly, the decline among people with household incomes over $100,000 is 31 points, compared to just a 13-point drop in those with incomes under $35,000.

GROUPS -- Rather than measuring vote preference, since 36 states have held their contests by now, this poll instead asked Democrats which candidate they'd like to see win the nomination. Obama does best in his core support groups: younger, better-educated and higher-income Democrats, men and those looking for new ideas.

Obama leads Clinton by 79-16 percent among African-Americans, almost exactly matching his margin in primaries to date. Critically, he has a 50-41 percent edge among white men, a swing group in this year's primaries. Clinton, for her part, still is favored by a wide margin among white women, 60-35 percent, and by seniors, 52-37 percent.

The competing themes of experience vs. a new direction continue to animate the contest; among those Democrats who are looking chiefly for a "new direction and new ideas" more than six in 10 would like to see Obama win the nomination; among those more focused on strength and experience, two-thirds prefer Clinton. The difference in this poll is that "new direction" voters are more prevalent than ever.

In one other change, Obama has more support in this poll from mainline Democrats than from independents. That could in part be because more Americans than usual are identifying themselves as Democrats, with previously Democratic-leaning independents, energized by the campaign, now associating themselves with the party.

METHODOLOGY -- This ABC News/Washington Post poll was conducted by telephone Feb. 28-March 2, 2008, among a random national sample of 1,126 adults, including an oversample of African-Americans for a total of 215 black respondents (weighted back to their correct share of the national population). The results have a 3-point error margin for the full sample, 4 points for the 629 Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents and 5 points for the 402 Republicans and Republican-leaning independents. Sampling, data collection and tabulation by TNS of Horsham, Pa.

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Should She Stay or Should She Go?

It's her money! If she wants to stay...let her stay!

It's an election...not a coronation. Why let the first states decide it?

Ditto for Huckabee too. He should stay as long as he wants too.

I never liked the way candidates are chosen. It is too contrived and rigged. I never liked "winner takes all" states either. It ought to be 100% by popular vote. In the general election too.

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Hillary has a lot of support within the Party...that's not the issue. The issue is that Obama has eclipsed her once dominant popularity and has had the most support now. When do want to concede? Take it all the way to the Primaries? That will be most unfortunate for the Party, and after tonight, there's talk of many prominent Party members and Superdelegates who are going to switch their support from Hillary to Obama...as they should. It was a good fight, but the inevitable is before us...Obama will be the Party's nominee.

Edited March 4, 2008 by Mister Fancypants

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Hillary has a lot of support within the Party...that's not the issue. The issue is that Obama has eclipsed her once dominant popularity and has had the most support now. When do want to concede? Take it all the way to the Primaries? That will be most unfortunate for the Party, and after tonight, there's talk of many prominent Party members and Superdelegates who are going to switch their support from Hillary to Obama...as they should. It was a good fight, but the inevitable is before us...Obama will be the Party's nominee.

Facts seem to hard for you to face today, Steven.

[jundp 191]

It ought to be 100% by popular vote. In the general election too.

It should be but it never will be, unfortunately. The idea that we don't actually elect our president has always bothered me. Damn electoral college.

[Ban Hammer 14,690]

let her stay so she can impede progress

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Or stay so as to make us believe there is an actual democracy in our country.