The Gun Control Debate

[garya505 2]

One man doesn't need 18 guns.

that's my choice to make, not yours.

Heck, after this thread I think I'm going to get a mini Glock .40

Need a back up pistol for my Sig P229 .40

Personally I'd take the Glock over the Sig, but that's just me.

[Vipul and Jamie 0]

My husband and I were just discussing this topic, so I'll give my 2 cents. BTW, haven't read all the pages - just talking on the suject. Bottom line to us is, something has to change. This is what how many school/university shootings now? I lost count. Comming from Texas, many men in my family own firearms, are very responsible with them, and use them for the intended purpose - to hunt animals. However, not everyone obviously is this responsible. As a side note unrelated to the last shooting, I don't think handguns should be legal (other than law enforcement) - handguns are made to shoot people not animals.

At this point my feeling is whatever it takes. If it takes incredibly strict gun control laws or airport type security at universities and malls then so be it. It's sad and probably not practical, but it's better than being killed trying to attend class. Also, I'm concerned that media attention from these shootings gives other mentally unstable people out there more ideas, but I don't have much of a solution to that.

[rebeccajo 14]

I also resent how you twist this tragedy and imply that gun advocates don't care about the families who lost people or are somehow less of a person for believing that with this sort of stuff on the rise having MORE legally armed folks is better, not worse.

I twist nothing. You manage to type it all out quite well yourself. You think it's fine to sit here, the day after six young people were murdered in cold blood by a deranged individual, using a weapon that our forefathers COULD NOT HAVE IMAGINED in their wildest nightmares, and dare to beat your chest about your rights as a Citizen of this country.

You couldn't possibly be more clueless without my twisting a single word.

[garya505 2]

I also resent how you twist this tragedy and imply that gun advocates don't care about the families who lost people or are somehow less of a person for believing that with this sort of stuff on the rise having MORE legally armed folks is better, not worse.

I twist nothing. You manage to type it all out quite well yourself. You think it's fine to sit here, the day after six young people were murdered in cold blood by a deranged individual, using a weapon that our forefathers COULD NOT HAVE IMAGINED in their wildest nightmares, and dare to beat your chest about your rights as a Citizen of this country.

You couldn't possibly be more clueless without my twisting a single word.

You clearly implied that I don't care about them, and you even brought my child into it, which is crossing the line.

[Ban Hammer 14,273]

One man doesn't need 18 guns.

that's my choice to make, not yours.

A Constitutionally protected choice.

Just as it is my Constitutional protection to say your choice makes no sense. Unless you have eighteen arms and are up against the Kraken, one weapon should serve your Constitutional right quite nicely.

sure, i'm certain the game warden will buy that argument when i'm duck hunting with a pistol

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

This is what how many school/university shootings now?

Good point. I would like to see more investigation done into why the irrational actor feels enough deprivation to act. What is the trigger? The source of frustration doesn't have to be the one they take it out on though but it could be a symbol.

As a side note unrelated to the last shooting, I don't think handguns should be legal (other than law enforcement) - handguns are made to shoot people not animals.

Interesting point. I'm going to have to chew on this one for awhile.

Also, I'm concerned that media attention from these shootings gives other mentally unstable people out there more ideas.

I completely agree with the monkey see monkey do theory.

[rebeccajo 14]

I also resent how you twist this tragedy and imply that gun advocates don't care about the families who lost people or are somehow less of a person for believing that with this sort of stuff on the rise having MORE legally armed folks is better, not worse.

I twist nothing. You manage to type it all out quite well yourself. You think it's fine to sit here, the day after six young people were murdered in cold blood by a deranged individual, using a weapon that our forefathers COULD NOT HAVE IMAGINED in their wildest nightmares, and dare to beat your chest about your rights as a Citizen of this country.

You couldn't possibly be more clueless without my twisting a single word.

You clearly implied that I don't care about them, and you even brought my child into it, which is crossing the line.

I asked you to look at your daughter and imagine. If facing the reality of what those families are feeling today is crossing a line, its an imaginary one in your mind.

[Jaseball 0]

I also resent how you twist this tragedy and imply that gun advocates don't care about the families who lost people or are somehow less of a person for believing that with this sort of stuff on the rise having MORE legally armed folks is better, not worse.

I twist nothing. You manage to type it all out quite well yourself. You think it's fine to sit here, the day after six young people were murdered in cold blood by a deranged individual, using a weapon that our forefathers COULD NOT HAVE IMAGINED in their wildest nightmares, and dare to beat your chest about your rights as a Citizen of this country.

You couldn't possibly be more clueless without my twisting a single word.

Actually, you bring emotion and play on heartstrings in what should be a logical debate. Not only that, but this thread was here to talk about gun control, but you keep bringing in the recent mass murderer who was mentally unstable.

Take this entire post and bring it in front of an unbiased group sitting on the fence or face me in a live debate and we'll see who comes out on top.

[rebeccajo 14]

One man doesn't need 18 guns.

that's my choice to make, not yours.

A Constitutionally protected choice.

Just as it is my Constitutional protection to say your choice makes no sense. Unless you have eighteen arms and are up against the Kraken, one weapon should serve your Constitutional right quite nicely.

sure, i'm certain the game warden will buy that argument when i'm duck hunting with a pistol

*flipping through the Constitution looking for your right to hunt game*

[rebeccajo 14]

I also resent how you twist this tragedy and imply that gun advocates don't care about the families who lost people or are somehow less of a person for believing that with this sort of stuff on the rise having MORE legally armed folks is better, not worse.

I twist nothing. You manage to type it all out quite well yourself. You think it's fine to sit here, the day after six young people were murdered in cold blood by a deranged individual, using a weapon that our forefathers COULD NOT HAVE IMAGINED in their wildest nightmares, and dare to beat your chest about your rights as a Citizen of this country.

You couldn't possibly be more clueless without my twisting a single word.

Actually, you bring emotion and play on heartstrings in what should be a logical debate. Not only that, but this thread was here to talk about gun control, but you keep bringing in the recent mass murderer who was mentally unstable.

Take this entire post and bring it in front of an unbiased group sitting on the fence or face me in a live debate and we'll see who comes out on top.

Why else would we be having this debate if it weren't for murders with guns?

That debate would be interesting. And embarrassing for you.

Unless you need me there live so you can point your weapon at me.

Edited February 15, 2008 by rebeccajo

[Ban Hammer 14,273]

One man doesn't need 18 guns.

that's my choice to make, not yours.

A Constitutionally protected choice.

Just as it is my Constitutional protection to say your choice makes no sense. Unless you have eighteen arms and are up against the Kraken, one weapon should serve your Constitutional right quite nicely.

sure, i'm certain the game warden will buy that argument when i'm duck hunting with a pistol

*flipping through the Constitution looking for your right to hunt game*

you do that, i'll hunt thru the constitution for your right to be emotional

[Jaseball 0]

That'd be interesting. And embarrassing for you.

Unless you need me there live so you can point your weapon at me.

I don't think winning a debate would be embarrassing for me. I'd be quite happy gloating for a bit.

Also, please don't even imply that I would have any sort of violent tendencies towards you or anyone else. It's really insulting.

[Ban Hammer 14,273]

Unless you need me there live so you can point your weapon at me.

that's uncalled for.

[Jaseball 0]

Unless you need me there live so you can point your weapon at me.

that's uncalled for.

Yep. I think that one comment alone makes me win by default.

[garya505 2]

Unless you need me there live so you can point your weapon at me.

that's uncalled for.

and irrational