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N-400 application: Must include all evidence in initial package?

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The instructions for the N-400 form say to bring the tax transcripts and relationship evidence (bank statements, for example) to the interview, so I didn't include it in the naturalization application. I see a lot of people here do include copies of those in the package they send, so I'm wondering if I should follow up and mail in photocopies now. Although I followed the instructions just as they were written, I'm wondering what the best next step is. The N-400 checklist (separate from the instructions, and with an older revision date) do say to include that information with the initial application, which contradicts the instructions.

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Depends on what rule are you applying under. 

As a spouse of USC who has been living with her/his USC spouse for at least 3 years or as a normal LPR who has been living in US for at least 5 years.

 

Follow the Document Checklist. 

N-400 Naturalization Journey SAN FRANCISCO FIELD OFFICE

Total processing time from last successful submission to Oath Ceremony: 253 days (8 months and 11 days)

Spoiler

02/26/2012: Arrived SF airport. 

11/28/2016: Eligible for early-filling.

Day 00 - 12/23/2016: Sent N-400 + I-942 to Phoenix, AZ lockbox via USPS.

Day 03 - 12/26/2016: N-400 application marked delivered.

Day 25 - 01/17/2017: Sent email to support regards to application.

Day 26 - 01/18/2017: N-400 rejected because incorrect payment amount.

Day 32 - 01/24/2017: N-400 + I-942 resent.

Day 34 - 01/26/2017: N-400 application marked delivered.

Day 49 - 02/10/2017: N-400 rejected again because incorrect payment amount.

Day 52 - 02/13/2017: Email form USCIS support responded package was rejected in error (!?) for the first and second time submissions, they requested 3rd resubmission + tracking number in order to apply my earliest priority date. 

Day 52 - 02/13/2017: N-400 + I-942 resent on the same day, also sent a response to Lockbox to provide information to USCIS.

Day 54 (Day 0) - 02/15/2017: N-400 application marked delivered.

Day 62 (Day 8) - 02/23/2017: E-notification, E-mail from USCIS, E-mail from Support announced Resubmission was accepted.

Day 66 (Day 12)- 02/27/2017: Notice of Acceptance as Fees Waiver Approval received. (All fees were waived instead of reduced by half as supposed by filing form I-942)

Day 69 (Day 15) - 03/02/2017: Online Status Update: Fingerprint Appointment was scheduled. 

Day 70  (Day 16) - 03/03/2017: Fingerprint Appointment Letter received. Biometric will be on 3/15/17. 

Day 70  (Day 16) - 03/03/2017: Early Walked-In for Biometric at 3:45 PM.

Day 87 (Day 33) - 03/20/2017: Online Status Update: Case was placed in line for interview. 

Day 234 (Day 180) - 08/14/2017: Online Status Update: Interview has been scheduled.

Day 239 (Day 185) - 08/19/2017: Interview Letter received.

Day 269 (Day 215) - 09/18/2017: Interview 2:30 PM at USCIS SF Field Office. Recommended For Approval. 

Day 280 (Day 226) - 09/29/2017: Oath Ceremony Letter received. N400 is approved.

Day 291 (Day 237) - 10/10/2017: Last Online Status Update: Oath Letter was mailed. Too late!

Day 307 (Day 253) - 10/26/2017: Oath Ceremony in Oakland, CA. Citizenship granted.

Day 307 (Day 253) - 10/26/2017: Passport applied.

Day 321 (Day 267) - 11/09/2017: Passport Booklet received. 

Day 321 (Day 267) - 11/09/2017: Naturalization Certificate received. Journey done.

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On ‎11‎/‎17‎/‎2017 at 12:28 PM, jxn said:

The instructions for the N-400 form say to bring the tax transcripts and relationship evidence (bank statements, for example) to the interview, so I didn't include it in the naturalization application. I see a lot of people here do include copies of those in the package they send, so I'm wondering if I should follow up and mail in photocopies now. Although I followed the instructions just as they were written, I'm wondering what the best next step is. The N-400 checklist (separate from the instructions, and with an older revision date) do say to include that information with the initial application, which contradicts the instructions.

If you are filing based on 3 years marriage to US Citizen - then yes, you need to include proof of ongoing bona fide marriage - joint financial responsibilities(bank statements, tax returns, insurance, wills, 401k etc) and joint social life elements ( children, friends, photos,  gym memberships etc)

 

If you are filing based on residency you can just send : GC copy, application and any divorce decrees if applicable - you could also include DL copy to show residency but it is not mandatory....

do not send the children :D copies of birth certificates will do....

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We didn't include the tax transcripts and relationship evidence with the packet we mailed in b/c the instructions said to only send a copy of the green card and marriage certificate, even though the checklist says to send everything. We did bring the tax transcripts and relationship evidence to the interview. Spouse was approved a couple of months ago and we're in line for Oath.

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12 hours ago, FilAmRouge said:

We didn't include the tax transcripts and relationship evidence with the packet we mailed in b/c the instructions said to only send a copy of the green card and marriage certificate, even though the checklist says to send everything. We did bring the tax transcripts and relationship evidence to the interview. Spouse was approved a couple of months ago and we're in line for Oath.

Good to know. We also followed the instructions literally (applying based on the three-year rule), so I was surprised to see most people on VisaJourney say we needed to include them in the initial mailing. I assume you didn't get an RFE at any point then?

 

Did you leave the evidence at the interview for them to review? Did they state that they couldn't approve you on the spot because they needed to review it? I'm considering proactively sending in photocopies of the tax return transcript and other relationship evidence just in the off-case it can cut down any additional waiting time.

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2 minutes ago, jxn said:

Good to know. We also followed the instructions literally (applying based on the three-year rule), so I was surprised to see most people on VisaJourney say we needed to include them in the initial mailing. I assume you didn't get an RFE at any point then?

 

Did you leave the evidence at the interview for them to review? Did they state that they couldn't approve you on the spot because they needed to review it? I'm considering proactively sending in photocopies of the tax return transcript and other relationship evidence just in the off-case it can cut down any additional waiting time.

We did not get an RFE. We did bring quite a bit of evidence with us to the interview and the lady looked through it and took what she needed. They gave us a document that said they couldn't make a decision at that time, but we were placed in line for Oath about 3 weeks later. I'm not sure, but it might have been quicker if we sent the evidence in advance. Might have saved us that 3 weeks. Now it has been over 2 months and we still haven't gotten notification that our oath was scheduled. We are doing a name change, so have to do the judicial ceremony, which is only done once per month in New Orleans, which is our field office. Hope that helps.

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