I-864 for joint sponsor- help needed with regards to filing Joint sponsors Wife's I-864a or no?

[Mochara 2]

Hi all,

Recently reciveed an RFE.


Need to submit evidence and redo the I-864 based on new evidence.

Question is

The joint sponsor (my husbands father) is submitting the I-864. He files his Tax returns jointly with his wife, who is unemployed but gets Social security disability allowance.
The joint sponsor does not need his wifes income to make the poverty line, but as theire returns are filed together, the figures need to be seperated, which I have done on a seperate sheet- not on the I-864.


USCIS officer told me Not to put in a I-864A for the Joint sponsors wife, since he doesnt need her income.

But for part 6 of the I-864, The figures for total household income ( and the form tells you to put the figure on Adjusted gross income on 1040) are their income combined. There are w2's submitted with the evidence, and I have additional seperated the joint sponsors income from the total figure on another sheet for USCIS to reference.

Should I not put their combined total household income on the forms?


Should the Joint sponsors wife submit an I-864A?


Even though we are only using the joint sponsors income?

[NancyNguyen 1,657]

The officer told you wrong answer, I-864A is like a consent / agreement of the cosponsor's spouse to let cosponsor use household income to sponsor immigrants, the co-sponsor's wife doesn't necessarily make any money. She needs to do I-864A. This matter has been talking about much recently here on visajourney. Good luck.

[Mochara 2]

The officer told you wrong answer, I-864A is like a consent / agreement of the cosponsor's spouse to let cosponsor use household income to sponsor immigrants, the co-sponsor's wife doesn't necessarily make any money. She needs to do I-864A. This matter has been talking about much recently here on visajourney. Good luck.

thank you!

Ok. So then what documents need to be submitted with her I-864A?

Have all the tax transcripts and social security statements for the last 3 years.

Do I need copies of her and his birth cert and is that it? just proof of income and then residency?

[NancyNguyen 1,657]

thank you!

Ok. So then what documents need to be submitted with her I-864A?

Have all the tax transcripts and social security statements for the last 3 years.

Do I need copies of her and his birth cert and is that it? just proof of income and then residency?

Yes, I-864A supporting documents are pretty much as same as I-864. By the way, please ask them to order TAX TRANSCRIPT, will save you much hassle from W2s, 1099....

[laucs72 3]

HI Mochara,

I am dealing with a similar issue... How did it go with your RFE? Did you have to submit the I.864A?

Thanks

thank you!


Ok. So then what documents need to be submitted with her I-864A?

Have all the tax transcripts and social security statements for the last 3 years.

Do I need copies of her and his birth cert and is that it? just proof of income and then residency?

[Mochara 2]

HI Mochara,

I am dealing with a similar issue... How did it go with your RFE? Did you have to submit the I.864A?

Thanks

Hi Laucs72,

I didnt submit the I-864A.

I submitted a redone I-864 with the joint sponsors W'2,s 1040, and IRS transcripts for the past 3 years.

As the joint sponsors income is filed jointly with his wife who is unemployed but recieved benifits, I did my own break down of the Joint sponsors income only, and provided his wifes social Benefits statements for the required years to support my breakdown (W2- Joint sponsors income figure / seperated from the Wife's Social security payments)

I also sent 6 months of pay stubs for the Joint sponsor, his birth cert, letter of employment.

I also sent a cover letter responding to their RFE.

No I-864A was required because I pointed out quite Clearly and Detailed how the joint sponsors income alone meets the guidelines. (USCIS are quite slow- make sure theres no way they can get confused- seperate everything clearly , label clearly, use post its, whatever.)

They received my response of the 13th of Feb and on the 25th they approved my EAD and AP, and my card was ordered to be produced.(woohoo!)

BUT I also did ring and request a service request and did send an email to my local congressman again, once I knew USCIS recieved the RFE response, so that probably helped too.

[laucs72 3]

Hi Laucs72,

I didnt submit the I-864A.

I submitted a redone I-864 with the joint sponsors W'2,s 1040, and IRS transcripts for the past 3 years.

As the joint sponsors income is filed jointly with his wife who is unemployed but recieved benifits, I did my own break down of the Joint sponsors income only, and provided his wifes social Benefits statements for the required years to support my breakdown (W2- Joint sponsors income figure / seperated from the Wife's Social security payments)

I also sent 6 months of pay stubs for the Joint sponsor, his birth cert, letter of employment.

I also sent a cover letter responding to their RFE.

No I-864A was required because I pointed out quite Clearly and Detailed how the joint sponsors income alone meets the guidelines. (USCIS are quite slow- make sure theres no way they can get confused- seperate everything clearly , label clearly, use post its, whatever.)

They received my response of the 13th of Feb and on the 25th they approved my EAD and AP, and my card was ordered to be produced.(woohoo!)

BUT I also did ring and request a service request and did send an email to my local congressman again, once I knew USCIS recieved the RFE response, so that probably helped too.

Hi Mochara,

Thanks so much for your reply. It is great to know you didn't have to submit form I-864A

So just so I understand, on part 6 of the form I-864 (On adjusted gross income reported on form 1040EZ) did you corrected it so it said the income for your joint sponsor only (individually without his wife's social benefits income) or did you leave the total household income?

Thanks so much for your help

Best

[Mochara 2]

That part is total household. For him and his wife combined.
Its the figure on line 22 of the form 1040 (I didnt have the 1040EZ)

Part 6 "current individual income" and part 6.10 Current household income should be the separated figure, and should be the same.

And when they look for that figure, it should either be on a letter of employment, or the most recent W2 (2014) which you should supply.

Basicially dont give them any opportunity to say they don't know the joint sponsors income only. I got an RFE because they couldnt tell the Joint sponsors income from his wife's, thats why the W2's and tax returns are important. The extra breakdown you provide is just to make 100% you don't get some idiot who's to lazy to read the evidence for himself.

[laucs72 3]

Thanks so much Mochara!

You are extremely helpful.

Wish you all the best =)

[desiigner 0]

Hi Laucs72,

I didnt submit the I-864A.

I submitted a redone I-864 with the joint sponsors W'2,s 1040, and IRS transcripts for the past 3 years.

As the joint sponsors income is filed jointly with his wife who is unemployed but recieved benifits, I did my own break down of the Joint sponsors income only, and provided his wifes social Benefits statements for the required years to support my breakdown (W2- Joint sponsors income figure / seperated from the Wife's Social security payments)

I also sent 6 months of pay stubs for the Joint sponsor, his birth cert, letter of employment.

I also sent a cover letter responding to their RFE.

No I-864A was required because I pointed out quite Clearly and Detailed how the joint sponsors income alone meets the guidelines. (USCIS are quite slow- make sure theres no way they can get confused- seperate everything clearly , label clearly, use post its, whatever.)

They received my response of the 13th of Feb and on the 25th they approved my EAD and AP, and my card was ordered to be produced.(woohoo!)

BUT I also did ring and request a service request and did send an email to my local congressman again, once I knew USCIS recieved the RFE response, so that probably helped too.

Congrats to you. I have a question, since I got the same RFE. I obtained a joint sponsor but here's my question; Did you mail in Joint Sponsor's documents only or did you resubmit the petitioner's i864 along with that of the Joint Sponsor?

Thanks.