akdiver

well hey, you know how the mail is getting back to alaska

huh?

isn't this how the mail gets there in alaska?

Dude, next time she gets off the plane, the plane will be leaving without her.

I think you're screwed.

I went to bed in 2000 knowing that Gore had won.

I have an idea. How about we just let the people in Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania vote, and forget about everyone else? That would certainly cut down on the cost and BS associated with elections.

Maybe they're using the same magic crack pipes that the Obama voters are using.

I can't remember. A lot of these I had never heard of until I sat down in the booth.

I mailed in my vote 2 weeks ago.

Thanks for the demo of reading comprehension issues.

Lighten up, diver....I was merely explaining why I didn't wait in line today to vote.

you're lame. you deserve some spanking

5 minutes. I asked them to see what write-ins they had, they showed me, I had a small notecard with me that I wrote down how I'd vote so it was pretty quick. I refused the electronic machines and used the simple, connect-the-arrows thingy.

I dunno about connecting arrows. Here we just fill in circles with a pen.

I trust him

This thread is lame.

The big question is, is it lamer than the stupid Scrabble threads?

I have to vote no.

i like it the way he's doing

And how do you know he is not manipulating the data?

Um....is there some advantage to getting this info here, rather than an actual news site??

Why not just post the link to the source where you are getting info and be done with it?

who cares?! same ####### different pile.

If I were able to vote there, I would vote as follows:

Against1A: Bond measure to fund the California High-Speed Rail line from Los Angeles to San Francisco.

Against2: Initiative statute regarding the treatment of livestock.

Against3: Initiative statute that authorizes children's hospital bonds and grants.

Against4: Initiative constitutional amendment regarding waiting periods and parental notification before termination of a minor's pregnancy.

Against5: Initiative statute regarding nonviolent offenders, sentencing, parole, and rehabilitation.

Against6: Initiative statute regarding criminal penalties and public safety funding.

Against7: Initiative statute regarding renewable energy.

Against8: Initiative constitutional amendment that, if passed, would eliminate the right of same sex couples to marry.

Against9: Initiative constitutional amendment and statute that deals with the criminal justice system, victims' rights, and parole.

Against10: Initiative statute that authorizes bonds for alternative fuel vehicles and renewable energy.

Against11: Initiative constitutional amendment and statute that deals with redistricting.

Against12: Bond measure that would assist veterans with buying property.

I vote against all voter initiatives, no matter what they are. I also vote against all bonds, no matter what they are.

She looked dead serious about shutting down NBC

I mailed in my vote 2 weeks ago.

Who the hell is Tim Robbins?

#######. I wish I had know there was an SNL special on last night. I bet it was funny.

But here is an interesting (real) Palin clip:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedishrag...-palin-thr.html

well hey, you know how the mail is getting back to alaska

http://www.adn.com/palin/story/578256.html

Gov. Sarah Palin made a fleeting visit to Alaska this morning to vote at her home polling place in Wasilla.Her private McCain-Palin campaign jet rolled into a private hangar at Stevens International Airport just before 5 a.m. She and husband Todd got out and hugged a few waiting supporters before getting into a dark Ford Excursion, Secret Service staff buzzing around them.....Palin and family were headed to Arizona to await election results with John and Cindy McCain.The doors closed and, minutes later, the jet screamed into the sky.

FYI: if you think there was no tax payer expense because she was on a private jet - think again. Secret service went along for the ride, and guess who picks up THAT expense.

How long did it take for you to vote today?

For purposes of this question, count the time between when you entered the parking lot of your polling place to the time you left the parking lot of your polling place.

For anyone who voted early, by mail, absentee or whatever - please sit this question out. I'm interested in lines and delays at polling places ON election day.

For me, it took all of about 5 to 8 minutes. I didn't even have to drive, the person who bought my vote (got $20 for it) drove me to the polling place and back home again.

you anti-american

I'm not sure I like this idea about handing an electoral vote to the governors.

1). Each state gets a base number of electors based on population. This number would be equal to the state's # of voting reps in the House (435 total). These "base electors" are appointed by state legislatures, not popular vote. These "base electors" must reflect the party affiliation of the legislatures, as close as mathematically possible. So, in other words, if a state's legislature is made up of 30% republicans, 30% democrats, 20% green and 10% libertarian, the political affiliation of the state's base electors must have a similar breakdown, to the extent mathematically possible.

2). Each senator also gets a vote as an elector. That brings the total number of electors to 535.

2). Each state's governor also gets a vote as an elector. That brings the total up to 585 electors.

3). Each member of SCOTUS also gets a vote as an elector. That brings the total up to 594 electors.

The relative power of each group of electors breaks down this way (all figures rounded):

Base electors (appointed by legislature): 73%

Senators (elected by popular vote): 17% (although I think the 17th amendment should be repealed)

Governors (elected by popular vote): 8%

SCOTUS: 2%

To win an absolute majority, one would currently need 298 votes. So, if you could convince about 69% of the base electors to vote for you, then the other groups wouldn't matter. However, this is not likely. If you could pick up half of the vote among the base electors, and half of the senate vote, that would give you about 268 votes - still not enough to win. So, then you would need to make your case to the governors. You'd need 30 of them to vote for you - or a little more than half. Now - this is key. Assuming a divided country, a candidate would still need to convince enough state governors that he or she was the right man for the job. This would go a long way toward keeping the small states from getting screwed. But, even so, after all of that - if it were still close, the influence of SCOTUS would be the determining factor. These people tend to be old, wise, and have a lifetime appointment - and would tend to have a moderating influence.

Overall, I think this would be a lot better than what we have now. It would also do wonders to take the money out of the race for president. Instead of raising a half billion dollars to convince individual voters, candidates would now have to largely convince state legislatures - after all, they have about 75% of the overall influence, and it is direct influence. Governors and Senators have about 25% of the remaining influence - so candidates would have to appeal to individual state leaders - which are in turn responsible to the people.

This is a FAR better representation of a union of sovereign states, joined in a republic via a subservient federal government, than what we have now.

In other news - I am happy to sell off my vote. I will vote for your candidate of choice for as little as $50 (cash only).

Just a reminder - today you are suppose to pretend you are voting for president!! Take yourself to your local voting place, submit a ballot, and feel good about yourself for participating in this farce.

Good luck, god bless, and tax less!!

Cheers!

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