DavenRoxy

You just made that up, didn't you?

As a statistician, that is my prerogative. at least, I am 93.2% sure it is...

You do realise that 82.6% of all statistics are made up, don't you?

Not to be picky nor liberal in nature, but of course you are wrong. It's 82.7%...

Delayed deportation for 5 million people who weren't even in deportation proceedings.

So IF they ever get to the deportation stage, they will be delayed. Relax, my friend, all will be well, and all manner o' things will be well. All this RWNJ paranoia is just making me want to rush out this weekend and buy a tinfoil hat.

How can anyone stand watching the jerk.

I was mildly aroused the entire time. Obamagasm!!

Look all you negative Nancies... he said it's just delayed deportation for folks who have been here for over 5 years and have citizen children. It's not like the floodgates have been opened. Stop being paranoid and just let the man make a few executive decisions that are good for this country. Murika!!!!

That the best you got there? It's not much, really.

You are so clever.... should consider a new MO of clever comebacks on VJ that have nothing to do with the topic at hand. Oh wait...

Good for you!

Yet another clever comeback that has no basis. I am beginning to see a trend with certain posters here.

Lying will not be tolerated in this thread. Only politicians can lie. You're as mad as I am.

No. I'm knot...

I love what he said. I think Obama is the best president in the last 30 years. All hail his greatness and willingness to save us from ourselves and prosperity.

I disagree with every one of this idiot's policies. But this one has to take the cake...

Why is that? (Sorry to ask, but I am filling in for one of Obama's true-love flunkies who is MIA and lives outside the US, but has a great opinion of the president)

Didn't stop anyone from coming.

Hilary did.

Watch the numbers of people crossing illegally from south go through the roof. He just sent them a presidential invitation.

Nope. He clearly said it only applies to those here for the past 5 years, NOT those who cross tomorrow.

percents without numbers are nothing more than data classifications with specific quantiles that infer or imply information

You may have just rendered 23,174 statisticians (9.3% of the working force, which is only 53.4% of the total US population, which is only 1.2% of the world population) useless. Now thanks to YOU, they will be fired within the next week, bringing unemployment up to 12.6%.

Thanks a lot!

And for the record, just because "every president for the past 50 years has done it", does not make it legal for him to declare law without Congress' approval.

Overall, not a bad speech. I wonder how much of it was accurate?

I notice he mentioned only delaying deportation for illegals here for at least 5 years already. But not one mention of how he intends to delay THEIR deportation while at the same time maintaining the flow of LEGAL immigrants as opposed to making them wait even longer. Probably not even on his radar.

Oh wait, I found it!!

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2014/11/19/tune-president-addresses-nation-immigration-reform

Know what? Fack it.... gonna watch some 24 season 1 with the wife, cuz what happens doesn't matter. It's out of my hands. The dicktater can do whatever he wants, to include making sure no American networks are reporting what he says. I mean, what better way to keep it on the down low what he intends to do?

Gee, thanks. You are SO other-languagly helpful!!

http://www.telemundo.com/noticias/2014/11/20/telemundo-transmitira-el-discurso-de-obama-sobre-la-accion-ejecutiva

Why shore maam. Hold your ears folks, it's showtime!

Holy shite, Janelle!!! I think this goes along with yesterday's tirade you undertook on NBs head for declaring that 95% of blacks voted for the president. Unless I am reading things the wrong way, NB may have been speaking with some accuracy...

But how can we watch it, since none of the major networks will carry the speech? Does anyone know of a website on which to watch his speech?

Again, there's no evidence of that. It's possible, sure, but there's absolutely no evidence that this is the case.

I agree with you. Just as there is no evidence of the president doing bad things for this coutry.

There's no proof of that anywhere in your links. Rumors are usually just that - rumors. Evidence, they are not.

You're right. Those two brothers were killed three days after GZ was acquitted because they had a "FREE ZIMMERMAN" bumper sticker on their truck. No reason to link the two events at all.

GZ wasn't locked up. How many cities burned because of it?

Not exactly rioting, but I do recall some people being attacked and murdered because GZ was not convicted...

http://sfcmac.wordpress.com/2013/07/14/thugs-in-oakland-vandalize-after-zimmerman-verdict/

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-trayvon-zimmerman-verdict-protesters-storm-walmart-attack-tv-reporter-vandalize-20130716-story.html#page=1

http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/22850763/jogger-says-he-was-attacked-in-retaliation-for-zimmerman-verdict#axzz2ZDrUBda7

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/blog/bs-md-trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-monday-20130715-story.html

http://therightscoop.com/15-black-teens-beat-white-teen-unconscious-threatened-family-with-baseball-bats-and-knives/

http://www.infowars.com/brothers-murdered-over-free-zimmerman-sticker/

One story I can't find but remember reading is where a group of black teens chased some kid home, and when the dad came out to try and chase them off, the group attacked him and either beat him to death or put him in the hospital. Can't recall the outcome for sure.

Plucked??? You trying to kill somebody.

I understand your point and that is why I knocked off some numbers. Again, the dems still don't even get half of our population to vote for them, this is including those who are able to vote. The repubs have a huge potential power they could have on their side if they weren't too grumpy and mean.

Hey don't knock it til you try it... no stubble, stays freaky soft for about a week or more.

I'm not smart enough to know about the numbers of who votes for whom in what election. IMHO, none of that even matters. The electoral vote is all that matters, and big business has that all figured out with money that neither you nor I can ever begin to compete with.

I will say, however, that I think you wigged out on NB for no reason... it's not like HE made that pic, he just found it. And I did not take it the way you did. Sorry you did, but I think I am pretty accurate in saying you took it the wrong way.

That's like saying 98% of mean prefer women who don't shave their pub hairs. Well if they only polled a 100 men how does that represent the majority? It doesn't!!

I'd vote for no pubes. But I prefer plucked ones, not shaved, personally.

You do realize the black population is approx 44 million. The democrats don't even get half of our population. And with the votes they do receive they only get 94% of that. And only 88% of that before. This only represents a small portion of black votes for the democrats and even less than that for the repubs. I can see a better case for saying that not voting at all hurts the black population more than voting for democrats because we poor bull craapp.

Didn't check the validity of your claim of 44 million, but I can tell you that if it IS correct, and you take away all those too young to vote, and all those who never register to vote, and those who don't get out on election day.... that's about 36~37% of the total black population who vote. Not that THAT number matter in this thread, but just trying to put it into perspective for you. Now assume NB is correct, 94% of 16.5 mil is about 15.5 mil. So that's the raw number you were looking for.

Hold up just a freaking minute... are we all in agreement here? No way, not on VJ!!

Yeah, I am down with it too. Or even a flat tax (seems like Germany had that years ago when I was there)

The more you earn, the more you pay, but it's the same percentage across the baord. But truth be told, I like MBD's schedule even better.

I'd be for a tax code with no deductions whatsoever. None. Just an exemption that across the board ensures that nobody pays a dime of tax on that first part of the income which is determined to be the existential minimum. If that is $20K a year - or maybe varying amounts based on where one resides - then so be it. First $20K are tax free. Next $30K you owe 5%, next $50K you owe 10%, next $100K you owe 15% and then you need to play that out to where it is revenue neutral to today's tax code. That's it. No shenanigans, no loopholes, no deductions. Income is income whether earned or passive makes no difference. I think you could cap the top tax rate at about 25% and would pull in what you pull in today. Done. I'm in.

How could anyone argue that this would not be fair? Count me in, too.

Sign me up. Seems pretty straight forward.