Elitevaz

Thanks for posting this. I'm getting a preview of what's ahead of me. My fiance has her visa but isn't coming until next month. I'm looking forward to a short break from stressing over paperwork and then back to the fire with the AOS. This ROM process looks quite ridiculous.

I feel blessed to have gotten my fiance through it so swiftly. I hope the rest of your journey is quicker.

Isn't the medical good for 6 months if there's no TB findings? My fiance was approved this month, but she needs 30 day notice on resignation so have to wait a month. She did the medical earlier this month.

I'm having trouble finding the 4 hour layovers in the US. The best is about 2 hours that I've found so far.

These are normal things in the Philippines. Especially in Mindanao. It's not my suggestion, it's just what I've heard that others do, from Filipinos.

Did you wait in the USA for her to get here? How did it go?

We elected for pickup. She was approved on the 15th and I got the message at midnight on the 17th in my email. I didn't get an SMS message and I am in eastern US time. I hope you get it soon.

While you definitely make a very good point, all of it except for the first sentence is misguided by 1 small detail: The marriage is not occurring in the Philippines! The point of asking for a cenomar is to make sure that the foreigner is not married. Ok. Well the Cenomar no record result only tells the councilor that the foreigner hasn't married a filipino citizen. This would make the foreigner eligible to be married in the Philippines. Now let's look at more facts. IF the couple is applying for a K1 visa, like I am, then we know some facts: Both claim to not be married The couple wants to be married in the USA, not the Philippines The Visa is approved While the counselor should not be doing random bs to harass the couple, the CFO states their mission is to stop what is essentially trafficking. So the actions taken by the counselor should align with this mission(yes you are right it's the Philippines and sometimes they do backwards stuff). If the actions are mission aligned, then what needs to be discovered is if the American has been married in America, because that is where the couple has been approved by the US government to be married. With that all said, I'm sure there are some people that have tried to pull a fast one and bring a Filipino to America to be married even though they are already married in the Philippines. You are definitely right on your logic in that. You are right in your first statement that we all have to play the CFO game, because they hold the power. But what's the big deal? The big deal is that even though I have to play the game, I think it's a stupid game. Mostly because they are not listing this as a primary requirement and placing this power in an individuals hands. We all know that there is rampant corruption and crab mentality in the Philippines. In fact, if I was rich enough, I would not even have to do CFO because the NAIA guards can easily be paid off. I've heard some say that if the Filipino shows a bank certificate with 4k USD, they will let the citizen pass. If that's not true, they can just be paid off directly. The guards have put their jobs on the line for much less (remember the female that swallowed a passengers $20 USD bill?). The CFO process is mostly BS. I do agree with their mission and definitely with imparting the knowledge of what to do if abused in a foreign land, that is extremely scary. However, I do believe that a lot of the recent scrutiny of applicants is a knee jerk reaction to the guy that recently murdered his filipino wife and the Philippine government wants to look like they are doing something, even though they are mostly powerless. They do have power to help the ones that stay in the Philippines married to abusive local partners, but I doubt there is much traction there. Anyone not familiar with the event, you can do.a search or look at this tragic news post: https://people.com/husband-allegedly-murdered-wife-days-after-came-overseas-meet-8774622#:~:text=Newlywed Wife Is Allegedly Stabbed,psychiatric hospital following his arrest. CFO could have maybe prevented her from dying by refusing to let her leave the country after seeing that he had arrests in his home country. However, seeing what he's capable of, why couldn't he just beat and stab her in the Philippines? He can! So the CFO is powerless whether they let her go or whether she stays. It's way easier to get away with Murder in the Philippines than it is to get away with it in Europe. Again, you are 100% correct, they have the authority, we have to play their game.

Alright sure. Lets have a look at the stats gathered by this site. Recorded on this site: K1 Visa's total records for Philippines as of today recorded for this site = 2119 IR1 Spousal Visas for Philippines = 408 Total visas = 2517 It doesn't take much sense to realize this is a tiny number. There's over 8 billion people on this planet. Over at census.gov it shows that about 342,000,000 of the people on Earth are American. The 2.5k is starting to look super small now. So how many of the 342m Americans are married Americans? According to USAfacts.org about 47% of USA households are married. So lets attach that to the 342m. 160740000. Those are couples, so we need to split that in half. Making 80370000 men and women each. So, since we are talking about an international marriage (an American to a foreign national) at least one of these people would not be included in the stat(the 160 million). Therefore if every single visa recorded by this site was approved and resulted in a marriage to a foreign national, we end up with this figure: 0.001573125% 2517 is 0.00157312% of 160 million So please tell me how it's not even 1% of marriages are to filipinos and you want to debate with me when I say that most Americans marry other Americans? It really isn't that hard to understand. In my state alone I barely see Filipinos here and most of the couples walking around are white. These are very easy to calculate and visualize. I don't see how you drew a connection between these numbers and my specific case. There isn't much of a connection. Insulting my knowledge of Philippine culture is based on what? We aren't having a discussion of culture here, how could you have any benchmark of what I know? I learned to speak Tagalog and even a tiny bit of Cebuano Bisaya. I'm sure most of the Foreigners here on this site dedicating themselves to a Filipino have not done that. I understand I made you mad, so you are shooting in the dark to make me look bad, despite clearly making an error in understanding. If you want to de-escalate this you can. Take a look at what I've presented, read my past comments again, and if you see your error then come back and admit it. If you want to keep debating me, you are welcome to, it excites me but this is one of the less challenging debates I've engaged in. Just so we are clear, the object fact and foundation of my position is: Most Americans marry Americans

Very few Americans marry Filipinos. Most are marrying other Americans in America, so the vast majority of Americans will have no marriage record CENOMAR whether they are married or not. The US Government can't even properly track marriages of Americans, so the PSA has no chance.

I'm trying to plan out the entry. I live in the Orlando area. Flights don't come directly here. So she's going to enter elsewhere. I'm trying to assess whether I should fly to her entry airport or let her do the connecting flights to get to Florida. If they take her to secondary screening I want to be available for the officers to question.

I just got notice by email. Manila processed her visa in about 24 hours. I'm shocked.

I met my Fiance online in late 2023, met her in person feb 2024. Decided to get married and filed for k-1 in August. Returned to attend her college graduation in sept 2024. Visa just got approved on the 15th. Each visit was 2 weeks, so we've been in person a total of 4 weeks. Daily communication, however. Throughout the day. She's 20 years younger than me.

Izza was approved today She reported that the financial documents were not asked for in her case. Most of what she told me she was asked about was relationship questions. Asking about my life, what we have in common(not surprised there is a big age gap).

Yes and most likely an American would have been married in America not in the Philippines. There's no American CENOMAR, so it's a pretty pointless effort. If the American married a Filipino already in the Philippines, they could still go to America and get married without an issue. Is some American authority going to come and invalidate it because of a foreign marriage? Never heard of such a thing. It's 100% illegal in USA to be married to multiple at the same time, but someone would have to accuse you and bring evidence. It's just a very unlikely process that would have to occur with a low chance. Seems more like them giving a hard time than doing real protection.

The cenomar is funny, the Philippines will not even be the authority used to get married.

Good to know, we need to figure out the best way to do this smoothly and least expensive. Local background reports are way cheaper than $68 rap sheet from the FBI. I ended up getting an FBI report, but $68 vs $5 for a city report.

I got mine today. I did the application yesterday and went to the post office around noon. It's now 3 hours later and I have the report. Sent it over to fiance so they can't stop her over that.

Any kind of police records? So what if you got a city or county background check, I wonder.

Interview is on the 15th

I think it's good to not get asked about the 134. The less scrutiny the less that can go wrong in this complicated, expensive, drawn out process. I'm interested to know what happens with your CFO. I'm right behind you. Izza has her interview on the 15th and I'm honestly more concerned about what hoops the cfo will make her jump through. I've had a discussion with some of my friends and I'm curious what you guys think. Imagine if they asked for fbi clearance and the US citizen had some bar fights that show up. The visa process does allow some offenses, but on the cfo website it says NO criminal history. Is this wording just an over simplification or would they really stop someone from leaving their country because of something that was there but passed the us federal?

This is extremely annoying. My fiance is completing her medical exam now. Interview coming up soon. Now I have to deal with annoying councilors delaying the process more.

I received an email from the embassy with instructions, I think it's referred to here as packet 3. I found it strange that the instructions of what to do next made no mention of the medical exam needed from st lukes. My beneficiary also received some mail at her home, but she works far away from home and hasn't opened those yet. Why aren't they mentioning the medical exam?

Hi, I'm having a tough time trying to location some important details for filling out my timeline. I've searched for a thread, but coming up empty. How do I know that the consulate received the packet? We are doing a K1, recieved the k1-ftp by email and NVC shows ready status. We have not received the letter. Packet 3 and 4, what is this? Is this us assembling documents for the interview? What's the difference between the 2? why isn't the medical exam on the timeline?

I can get those documents, thanks