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Green card arrived in just under 90 days. We should have just been patient. Yes the current advisory is 90-120 days. Just getting a bit nervous re: all the immigration heavy handedness lately.

Wouldn't "another document showing your travel plans" be a detailed itinerary? What about hotel reservations? The above doesn't mention anything about airline tickets. Just travel reservations. Many hotel bookings are refundable with no charge. At the very least, I try to book my first and last days before I arrive somewhere. I'm not sure this is in the right forum, as this is a trip to the Netherlands following Netherlands visa rules, right? There are all sorts of ways of entering the EU as a tourist, and different entry requirements based on which country's airport you use--probably outside of the scope of this forum.

The best option for "visiting the US first" is the tourism route which you already tried. What will you do if she doesn't like the US and want to live here? End the relationship? Move back to her country? Are you sure you are ready to marry? If you are committed to the relationship, the best option seems to marry now and pursue spousal visa. Yes, it's a bit ridiculous to ask someone to commit to living somewhere they aren't even allowed to see first, but that's US Immigration for you! At least we have free video calling today, and it's a bit easier to portray what life would be like before she arrives blind (hint: It's NOTHING like what Hollywood portrays!) If you aren't committed to moving anywhere in the world to be with your spouse, you could roll the dice and try a fiance visa, but it's an expensive time consuming gamble with a couple years of your life. Definitely don't rush into a marriage before you are ready, but also I'd be hesitant to put things on hold for 2+ years while I decide if this is the right partner for me. In my case, I was sure, and we used our 17 month waiting period to plan a religious ceremony in her home country (after doing a civil marriage through the state of Utah, in order to get the ball rolling on the US immigration side). This made the time go by rather quickly, and was fun for her. If you are still unsure, I would probably visit more, make video calls with both families, attend some religious or couple counseling, maybe bring a sibling or best friend over to meet her, or whatever you need to do to decide you are ready for marriage. Remember, If you went the fiance visa route, you only have 3 months to decide this. My total cost for IR-1 spousal visa (2023-2025) was $1,215 to the US gov't and $1,704 total including foreign medical fee, which varies by country. Last I checked, K-1 cost is at least $3,000 in US fees. And then you only have a 2 year green card which must be renewed ($$), vs a 10 year one that can transition to citizenship. I was also able to receive thousands in tax refunds by revising 2 years of US income taxes at the lower "married filing jointly" rate after marrying, during the visa processing period. This was a huge financial savings, which more than covered the costs of our immigration fees, wedding, and honeymoon. Anecdotally, my wife is fine with the US (doesn't love or hate it). One of her biggest complaints (that I hear other foreigners echo) is poor transportation and how considerably less social things are here, and everyone is just focused on working (often multiple jobs). We are likely moving back to her country one day, probably after my parents are gone, but she generally enjoys her new life here. I did promise to send her home once a year. One of my best friends married a foreigner, who has been in the USA about a year, and she is NOT happy at all... they are a committed couple with a young daughter but I'm not sure what is going to happen. It's definitely something to work through ahead of time as much as possible. Maybe she can start talking to some expat groups on facebook from her country. My wife found several friends that way. Edit: After reading @TexasRafael s post above mine, Utah marriage is a viable option for a same-sex couple who wish to immigrate to the US through Immediate Relative (spousal) qualifications. Utah allows couples to marry from anywhere in the world, whether you are physically together or not (but you must have one meeting to "consummate" the marriage before filing US I-130). Basically once married by Utah, you are legally married in the eyes of the US government and free to sponsor your spouse as an immigrant.

In the past I've seen descriptions that CR-1/IR-1 is superior, but K-1 was slightly faster, but never the claim that K1 is superior in any other way. K-1 offers substantially fewer benefits. K-1 I would recommend if there are children also needing to be relocated, or in special circumstances, or possibly if time to reunite was the #1 priority, such as for health reasons or something (though I'm not convinced this is the case any longer with K-1 visas) but it is objectively an inferior type of visa, giving the partner fewer benefits and requiring expensive forms to be filed with USCIS, with longer wait periods, and thousands more in fees, to obtain the same benefits a wife receives on day one. That doesn't mean K-1 doesn't make sense for some people (perhaps if you aren't 100% ready to marry yet) but terms like "superior" need to be qualified objectively. CrazyCat often repeats a good comparison between the two, second post in this thread. The "superior" type of visa for your partner, if you can get it, is Consular processing (DCF). Better, faster, *and* cheaper!

CR/IR-1 took us about 17 months, and we applied when there was a large backlog of Covid-19 cases pending. I've never read of a case taking 2 years, unless you drag your feet responding to requests or something. Read CrazyCat's summary again, slowly, several times, highlighting the differences in the 2 visas and decide which is better for you. For us CR/IR-1 was the right choice. This was recently highlighted again, when my wife became pregnant 2 months after arrival in the US, and wanted to return home to visit her family. This would be difficult/risky/expensive if we did not have the IR-1 10 year permanent residency & green card. As far as hiring an agency, the steps to do it yourself are laid out pretty clearly here. We did everything ourselves and had no stumbles, but we also had no past divorces, children, etc. and have a straightforward case. It will require some time to educate yourself so pick time vs. money... IR stands for Immediate Relative, ie your wife.

I've spent several months in PH (But never in CDG). I've never once wanted to drive a car. Transportation there is fantastic (though traffic can make it less so). You can find a taxi, jeepney, aircon van, Grab, or bus going basically wherever you want to at any daylight hour. Drivers are so cheap, being driven around the country is something I *enjoy* paying for. Sit back, let the pros do what they do best, and don't worry about the confusion of navigating a region you are unfamiliar in. Unless you are driving for hours each day, I can't see needing a dedicated driver. But it's also easy to befriend someone and have them be your "regular" guide if you like... Grab is good but honestly I just waive down a taxi.. or rather let the doorman do it for me (even $30 / night hotels have doormen. Wow I miss PH!) With a baby, yeah you might want to arrange something regular, with a carseat. I was often casually solicited driving services (for example, the security screener at the airport, instead of yelling at me like they do in America), just smiled and helped me with my backpack, and gave me a card offering to drive me around if I needed to go anywhere. If you make small talk with people, driving for hire is a fairly common service. I would think your wife's family should know someone who has a car and is willing to be your driver, no? If not many hotels can arrange this. Last time there with a buddy, he friend befriended the hotel's airport van driver and hired him directly. PH is the land of personal service!

I did a LOT of searching / worrying about this while we were waiting. In the end the VJ Timeline estimate was accurate to within a week or so. Interestingly it doesn't have an estimate for you, apparently due to lack of recent data from Chile. Doing a manual search it seems there is only 1 Chile case completed recently. Until the VJ timeline estimate updates, the next best thing would be monitoring those 11 other pending apps and seeing when the oldest one receives their visa. Or, alternatively, just waiting for at least a year to go by without worrying about it, if you can. Total Number of records in Database meeting search criteria: 12 (Visas Received = 1, Visas Pending = 11) If you asked me the best estimate today off the data I would say 15 months, give or take, of backlog until they start processing your app, then another 6 months to receive the visa. 21 months total. We waited 13 1/2 months before processing began, 21 months total. Very similar ballpark. So, September 2026? Just a wild guess from insufficient evidence though.

We entered the US with IR1 visa almost 3 months ago. Social security card arrived automatically within a week or two (funny enough with a misspelled name). We are still waiting on the green card. I would prefer not traveling abroad without it (both due to the crazy news I've heard regarding US immigration actions but more importantly it allows certain benefits in my wife's home country (as well as third country transit benefits we will very likely need to use!). As I recall, 3-4 months was a normal processing time, pre-Trump. Can anyone give any first hand knowledge of receiving a green card in 2025 and how long it took? There are stories of extremely long backlogs which I hope are not affecting automatic mailings of spousal green cards. We will likely still travel in the coming months either way, fingers crossed, as we want to squeeze in a trip home before the baby making begins! I hope this estimate of 9.2 months does not apply to our situation... (Link removed) Immediate Relatives of U.S. Citizens: Spouses (inside the U.S.) Marriage Green Card No wait required 9.2 months

Friend who is a million miler and gets Global Entry benefits at no charge says he NEVER uses it as the free US Govt Mobile Passport App is just as easy and always faster (mostly because no one uses it). Global Entry is a nice idea in principle (and for a time made some sense) but in practice its benefits are pretty marginal. I wouldn't bother... Even TSA Precheck has become progressively less valuable (most recently as of July 2025 all travelers are allowed to wear shoes again, negating one of the biggest benefits of Precheck). Personally I'm not too comfortable installing an Uncle Sam app on my phone but if you are, then that's the best route. Also keep in mind that unless your final destination is a port of entry then you're still going to "wait" the same number of time --*hours*-- for your connecting flight, no matter how quickly you pass through US immigration... Waiting on this side of the line vs that side is the same to me: this is the sole reason I never got Global Entry!

I travel internationally frequently, and the vast majority of countries still stamp. If not, I often ask for stamps (many times there is a choice between electronic entry and physical processing and you can almost always get a stamp at the latter. Physical processing will likely never COMPLETELY go away as you have special cases, babies without documents, wheelchair assistance, etc. that a human needs to eyeball). An old passport is a great record of your memories, an heirloom for your decendents, etc. (an uncle who recently died had a prominent stamp from National Socialist Germany when he visited in the twenties which was quite the conversation starter at his funeral!) The US Gov't generally only knows about your comings and goings from the USA. I have several trips that the US has no idea I ever took unless they look at my stamps... Sad that the stamps might be ending. And I'm surprised there is not more governmental pressure to stamp so they have maximum knowledge/control. Most countries (particularly those who are more strict with their visitor rules) still stamp, as the document becomes proof of your time in country. But Jamaica and Dominican Republic (two VERY tourist friendly countries) this year both did not (I was in a group and didn't want to separate from them or else I would have bypassed the electronic entry line and gotten the stamp). I requested a stamp the last time I went to Canada. They warned me that they have to check my police history if giving a stamp, and if rejected they would have to deny me entry to the country versus normal automatic entry without a stamp. I hesitated but she insisted traffic tickets etc don't count so I got the check and the stamp. I imagine the next time I renew my passport we might be using "passport card only" and then after that who knows? But if the paper passport goes away I imagine there will be some type of imitation passport that airports or other public offices will set up, like how the US National Park system has a "passport book" for visiting their parks. There are already some post offices that do this (got the polar bear stamp in Churchill Canada last year). But the reality is in a world of 10 billion plus, it won't really be feasible to try to manually process and track the comings and goings of all of us... until we are all implanted anyway! Kinda sad but on the other hand, passports have really only existed for *barely* 100 years...

It's all in HOW you do it. If you are married, just think about the GOOD way to ask your wife a question, versus the way you know will result in a bad response I merely made the statement in front of the officer "We've been married for 2 years now!" and he put the rest of it together. Demanding that he write us down as IR1... may not gone as smoothly. Of course you can Choose Your Own Adventure if you like!

We had a smooth entrance to the US, entering about 2 years and a week after our legal marriage. I mentioned this to the immigration officer as he was finalizing our entrance (the entire process took maybe 3 minutes) and he said "Oh, hmm I wonder if I could go ahead and change you an IR-1." The agent right next to him said "Yes, you can do that" and he acted surprised. (He actually scribbled something out he already wrote on the visa and changed it to IR-1 haha I hope it's valid!) His comments made it pretty clear he was going to erroneously issue us a CR-1 and he seemed to not even know he could change the visa status until his coworker advised him (THANK GOODNESS she overheard!). I don't know how onerous the process is to correct such an oversight but I'm glad we didn't have to find out! Just wanted to pass this along in the hopes it saves someone from any problems with the wrong stamp being placed in the passport, as I've read about here before.... I would kindly remind the officer "We married >2 years ago. We can enter with an IR-1 visa now right?

I'll throw in my personal experience, and echo what I read on these forums when I was contemplating the same decision as you. I read many times: "Many VJ posters have regretted going the fiance visa route. I haven't seen anyone with a spousal visa wish they went the fiance route." We are very happy we went the spousal visa route. In our case, the process took around 18 months and $1,200 ($1,700 if counting the required medical test, paid directly to the hospital, which varies by country). The fiance visa will cost over $3,000, historically take a similar amount of time (it's been both shorter and longer than the spousal visa post-covid and is currently faster. (It's a bit hard to predict as it depends which type of visa the current administration prioritizes). At the time we married, fiance was a slightly faster option, but requires months of waiting once in the US before you can work, travel, etc., and requires additional visits with US gov't bureaucrats and large fees you will pay in the future to "adjust your status" and other things you don't need to do at all if you get the spousal visa. If the US increases those fees (they have increased several during our process), you will pay even more than planned. My wife was a permanent legal resident of the US the moment she arrived here, and particularly with the current US government situation, we are happy to have the legal status that we do. Plus her Social Security card just showed up in the mail a couple of weeks after we arrived, no need to apply or pay for anything further. What we did was a civil marriage ASAP via Utah over the internet while we were in separate countries (you can be married a week from now if you apply today) and then making a required personal visit to "finalize" the marriage before you are allowed to apply as a married couple for a spousal visa. That left us with about 13 months to plan a nice church wedding where we invited friends, family, and made it a happy ceremony. The planning for this big event (and the long honeymoon after) made the waiting pass by much easier. *As a plus, I am getting thousands of dollars back from the IRS because US income taxes for the past 2 years we were married can be adjusted to "married filing jointly" which has a much lower tax rate than I had as a single man (slightly off topic as there is another forum for this, but it saved me *thousands and thousands* which basically covered the cost of my wedding plus immigration fees!)* As someone who went through the process, I would only recommend fiance visa for someone trying to bring back existing children along with your partner or other special circumstances. Plus I don't want to deal with US immigration agents or pay them money any more than I have to! Bonus: if you enter the US 2 years after your marriage date, you get a 10 year green card instead of a 2 year one. We shouldn't have to deal with immigration authorities again unless we apply for US citizenship (assuming we stay in the US). The waiting is not ideal, but it's not all negative. We used the time to take some online premarital counseling sessions, intentionally talk about how we will handle certain problems, etc. all things that got us on the right foot, that I probably would have skipped if I just married a local gal Good luck to you and God Bless!

Trust me, I was outraged when the Manila Field Office closed in 2019, essentially ending DCF processing for all but a few special cases. I spent quite a while trying to come up with a scenario that would allow us to squeak in under the far superior and much cheaper DCF visa rules (both of us moving to Mexico while we underwent processing was the best option). If you don't currently have a job offer, you do not qualify. You could either try to purposefully create a situation where you qualify for DCF, or just take the path of least resistance, and get the I-130 filed ASAP. I did the latter. Yes, it sucks, but that's the path they are forcing us down now. Yes, Vienna will process your DCF case if you qualify, and no, you do not submit your I-130 to the USA first (there is about a year backlog of processing I-130s so that would make a DCF rather pointless). DCF is fast and easy, maybe lawyers don't get involved in it much because they aren't needed and he's not familiar with how it works?

If you fill out your timeline, you should get an accurate estimate of when your case will be processed. You can also search for recent approvals and see what their application date was. The VJ site combines data from multiple US agencies, the various lockbox processing offices, and live user info, and for us the estimate was accurate to within a few days. Plus you are helping out other users here. But yes at this point I'd expect your petition will wait in line for about a year before they process it. FYI, the US gov time estimates are just one of several items we encountered that were misleading, contradictory, or outright WRONG from the US immigration offices. There were 3 or 4 specific cases where if we followed the US Gov instructions our case would have easily taken 6+ months longer, but the forums here gave us the correct info. (For one, they tell you to wait to be scheduled for a visa interview by the embassy, when actually you have to log on to a website and schedule your own interview--how long would we have waited to be scheduled before we realized this? Could have easily been another year!) There is some outdated data here in the guides, but searching the forums for posts within the past year gives you good, current advice.