Shub

And also... Do we have to submit both parents' birth certificate along with N-600?

Thank you.

Sorry, don't know about that! I probably would do it anyway but I don't know if it's necessary. Don't see why it would hurt though.

Hi All,

Thank you for your posts.

I'm planning to file for n-600 for my child who is a minor. I have a question regarding that.

Do I need to send a copy of my birth certificate, marriage certificate along with all the needed documents with the n-600 application?

Please help.

Appreciate all your help.

Thanks.

Forgive me if I misunderstand your question, but aren't the birth and marriage certificates of the US citizen parent applying for N-600 on behalf of a minor child, part of "the needed documents" for an N-600 application?

If she became a permanent resident more than 5 years ago (it looks like that's the case based on your timeline), it's actually easier if she applies on the basis of 5 years of residence. There's less paperwork to assemble. Forget that she's married to you for the purpose of the application. She will say that she's married to you in her application, but that has no bearing on the application.

My suggestion to you is to go to http://www.uscis.gov/n-400 and review the third link (document checklist, current fees, eligibility worksheet) -- the checklist is immensely helpful when assembling the documentation, and the eligibility worksheet will help you make sure you fit the basic requirements for naturalization. In the eligibility worksheet, just take the fork that says you've been an LPR since 5 years or more and go from there.

Thanks Shub for the reply. I am naturalized US Citizen for past 6 years. I am in US all this time. She came to US when I am already naturalized US Citizen.

Ok. To be clear, you can travel all you want, but she can't. If she's stayed in the US since she became a permanent resident, then she can apply 3 years minus 90 days from the "resident since" date on her green card.

I suggest you go to http://www.uscis.gov/n-400 and review the third link (document checklist, current fees, eligibility worksheet) -- the checklist is immensely helpful when assembling the documentation, and the eligibility worksheet will help you make sure you fit the basic requirements for naturalization!

I am an US Citizen. My wife came to USA on GC on Sep-2011. We just got her GC renewal done ( As at the time of entry in US we were married for less then 2 years). My question is when she will be eligible to file for the citizenship.

Thanks

Look at the date next to "resident since" on her green card, add three years, subtract 90 days (not 3 months!) and you have your date. For example if the date on her green card is September 1st, 2011, her eligibility window to apply for naturalization opens after June 2nd, 2014.

One thing I'm not clear on is whether you are a natural-born US citizen or a naturalized one. For your wife to be eligible to apply for naturalization based on 3 years of residence and marriage to a US citizen, you must have been a US citizen for those three years. If you were previously a green card holder and she came to the USA before you became a naturalized citizen, she must wait for the third anniversary of your naturalization, not 3 years from when she became a permanent resident.

Finally, be mindful of the other requirements, chiefly physical presence and continuous residence. For the former, your wife must have spent more than a minimum of 18 months of the last 36 months (before the date of your application) in the US, and for the former, if she took any trips lasting more than 6 months, she will have to justify them and prove that she did not break residence.

Thanks for the answers so far. I'm actually turning 27 in a week and I did sign up for selective service at 18 so that shouldn't be a problem.

Good! Well, based on the information at hand, I don't see a problem here.

I can't imagine it'd be a problem.

Did you register for selective service before you turned 26? That question is unrelated to yours but it came to my mind since you said you just turned 26.

I'm glad it worked out for you! I wasn't aware that Library would accept passport apps, too! Would def keep that in mind! Cheers!

Look up authorized passport acceptance facilities in your area using this tool on the website of the Dept. of State:

http://iafdb.travel.state.gov/

I think most -- if not all -- post offices do it, but outside of that, there's no guarantee. The public library in my town does it but the one in the next town over does not.

You're all set! Congratulations! Did you apply for your passport at the Post Office?

Actually, no. The post office was my first option, but they were rather ridiculous: I called during business hours one day and they told me to call back the next day between 10:15 and 11:30. So I did that and got a busy signal (I tried to call every 5 minutes during the time period they had told me, got a busy signal every time). I randomly called later that day and simply asked if they could give me an appointment, since this sort of stuff is only possible by appointment, they said yes. I guess they wanted me to talk to the person who only works between 10:15 and 11:30 because they assumed I had questions about the process, which I didn't. So they gave me an appointment but they didn't have anything on a Saturday for weeks, so I agreed to an appointment on a Wednesday morning and figured I'd just work from home that day, but it was a huge pain in the rear.

Finally I called the public library near me since they also accept passport apps (it's probably easy money for them) and they gave me a convenient appointment the next Saturday in the morning, so I took that and canceled the post office appointment

My passport was in today's mail. Well, this concludes that

Not long. I already knew most of it without having studied any of it. I didn't actually ever study any of it, per se. The red brochure they gave me at the biometrics appointment remained unopened.

I ran through this tool to practice a couple of times and teach myself 1) the desired/acceptable wording of some of the answers, and 2) some answers I didn't already know off-hand:

http://amaruk.atspace.com/tests/NewCivicsTest.html

Then had my wife quiz me using the same tool a couple of times over the days leading up to the interview, by which time I was prepared.

I do have a knack for memorizing information so I'm sure this is harder for some people.

I have waited the 5 years required for Naturalization, would remarrying hinder any progress with my Citizenship?

Does divorce have anything to do with Naturalization after the 5 year waiting period?

And lastly, will written affidavits of good intent to marry for the original purpose of entering the US help my case? My ex husband himself and several coworkers are willing to write them if it gives my case leverage. Is there anything else I should consider?

I wouldn't worry about it. You had a bona fide relationship that didn't work out and are now in a new relationship. **** happens, as they say.

Just apply for naturalization based on 5 years of residence and you'll be alright. If you wish to remarry before or during or after naturalization, it makes no difference either (but if you remarry after submitting your application but before naturalizing, be sure to inform USCIS during your interview).

USCIS starts probing around more deeply when you're from a country that is more prone to "producing" immigration fraudsters who marry US citizens, then get divorced, then marry someone from their own country who was already in the US. I'm not saying all such situations are necessarily products of fraud, but you can imagine how that would look more suspicious than what happened to you.

I don't think you need leverage, if you wanted to get affidavits from your ex that you did everything in good faith and it didn't work out, you can keep that in your bag when you go to the interview and use it if the officer starts grilling you too much, but I wouldn't worry about the whole thing too much.

Please ask your wife to read this conversation before filing for citizenship.

That's a great idea. Please do that.

Your status was "I-485 pending", or "pending adjustment of status" or any way you want to word it.

It is a legal immigration status but it means you were not a permanent resident.

ok all frineds THANK YOU SO MUCH . Everybody said their opinions. Let to see, What is real answer from someone had real experience like me,10 years green card without condinanal card green card for apply N-400 for to be US Citizens.

Thanks all of you, .

I understand all you guys , All of you Think i should stay 3 years after my green card date issued. Don't send more if you are thinking like that.

I need just someone had real this problem like me.When did he/she his N-400

What we're trying to tell you is that what happened to you before adjustment of status, i.e. before your green card was approved, does not matter.

It's not a question of opinion

If your green card says you are a permanent resident since February 16th, 2014, then that is all that matters for purposes of naturalization.

I don't know , You are talking about whom? Mine is Not same name you are talking about it. NO IR1 or NO CR1

Mine is " lF1"

My bad, your status is IF1 because you were a fiance visa. If your green card had been approved before your 2nd wedding anniversary, your green card status code would have been CF1. None of that matters for naturalization, though.

No. Tha tis not true.

You can search in internet to find the list of all catogory .Many kind Catogory you will see in the list. By k-1 visa (married) it is not "CR1/CR6"

Mine is " lF1" by k-1 visa (married)

Then .i think will not bad if some of you guys for 1% think may be you'r wrong or may be i am 1% right. thanks.

CR1 or IR1 has nothing to do with your K-1 visa.

CR1 means you are a conditional resident, i.e. your green card is valid for two years. Your green card says IR1 because it's a 10-year green card. Again, it has nothing to do with being a K-1.

Had your application for adjustment of status been approved before your second wedding anniversary, your green card would have said CR1. Then you would have applied for removal of conditions and you would have received a card that would have said IR1 instead of CR1.

The "IR" stands for "Immediate Relative".

I forgot there was an interview somewhere in the mix. So yeah, then the date on the card is correct and there's no way he can apply in December of this year.

Back to the disinformation line

Given the time frame he filed to adjust status, I wouldn't be surprised if his petition was misplaced and it wasn't until his congressman inquired that they went searching for it. AOS applications were totally overloading USCIS at the time, and many waited over a year. But it doesn't really matter, when they issued the green card is the date he's stuck with, together with all the others that waited longer than normal back then. His isn't the first, nor will it be the last case, where USCIS misplaced a petition for a couple years.

Oh yes, I'm sure that's what happened. I'm just leaving open the possibility that he was approved a few years ago but USCIS issued a green card with an incorrect date If that's what happened, he should have them resolve the issue, but I expect that the date is correct.

ok. Please tell me where i should call to complain the date is on my GC.

The number for USCIS Customer Service is 1-800-375-5283.

Be warned that I doubt that USCIS made a mistake, so I doubt that you'll get any help. It's far more likely that you misunderstood something along the way.

Thank you Shub and others.

That is not my fault the did mistake to keeping my file untill 2014,

I sent all document and forms after marry to them, I did my part so well.

But still I will send my N-400 on same day i said.

If you guys are right. that is ok.

If they (USCIS) did mistake on my file in first step on 2011 to keeping me away, may be this time, they do right job on my file.

But still i am waiting for someone has same experience as my case.

You can't make the assumption that they will "do the right job on your file" this time, and that implies they didn't do the job right on your green card application. You cannot know that. For some people, it just takes longer than for others.

Now when you submit your N-400 along with a copy of your green card in December, someone will see right away on your green card that you have only been a permanent resident since February and deny your application on the spot because it's only been 10 months, not 3 years. If you have $680 to throw away, be my guest, but you've been warned.

Yes, you did everything right to get this far, but applying for a green card is a completely different process than applying for citizenship.

With citizenship, you have to have been a permanent resident for three years or more. It doesn't matter when you arrived in the US, what type of visa you used to come to the US, when you got married, it doesn't even matter when you applied for your green card. All that matters is when your application for permanent residence was granted.

Your application for a green card was granted on February 16, 2014, so that is when you became a permanent resident.

If you believe you became a permanent resident on an earlier date, based on correspondence you received from USCIS, in other words if you believe USCIS made a mistake and your green card should say a different date, then you need to contact them.

Otherwise, everything was done according to the law and you simply have to wait for your eligibility window to open.

Please see this link, in end this link (23)

They wrote ,for some people this happen to have 10 years green card without conditional permanent residency. Then I am not first one or strange case in this kind visa, this happen to me.

http://www.visajourney.com/content/k1flow

I was hoping someone have same experince as me , tell me about his/her what i should to do.

That's not strange, that's just what happens when your application for adjustment of status is granted after the second anniversary of your marriage.

When applying for a green card based on marriage to a US citizen, the rule is very simple:

- If you have been married for less than two years, you get a conditional two-year green card.

- If you have been married for more than two years, you get a ten-year green card.

So if you got married in November 2011 and your application for a green card was granted in February 2014, you should have received a ten-year green card, and you did. There is no problem.

It is uncommon for K-1 visa holders to get a 10-year green card without having to go through removal of conditions because, as you know, when you come in as a K-1, you have to get married within 90 days of arriving in the US. After that, people apply for a green card and usually get approved sooner, so most people who adjust status from a K-1 get a conditional two-year green card.

In your case, USCIS took longer to review your application for adjustment of status, so you didn't have to go through removal of conditions. That's really all!

It can not be like that ( marrage day is zero by k-1 visa)

The k-1 visa is not travel visa or student visa or else, I took those kind visa and I came in USA, and fall in love with someone got marriage with him/her, Then it got zero because of the wrong visa for marry. because I had not no kind eligible to marry in USCIS law.

K-1 visa mean , I had eligible to marry also I have a someone to marry , came by intent for marry. also i did. without marry i could even stay in U.S.

Then I do n't think marrige date is ZERO.

Believe me, I also came to this country on a K-1, I know how it works.

A K-1 visa allows you to enter the USA with the intent to marry someone and apply for adjustment of status. You did all those things according to the rules, which is fine. Unfortunately it is meaningless when it comes to an application for naturalization, and the date of your marriage has no bearing.

Dear Shub ,

If you know some way I can fix the problem, please tell me.

How i can send a request to find out or fix the problem about it .

Also I didn't have travel out of USA after I arrive to USA on 1 sep/2011. Even I didn t travel out of our state.

I want to know if some thing i should to do before sending N-400 forms to USCIS ,

I will send my all document on the Dec 15 . 2014 in USCIS.

The day is = 3 years + about 1 month from my married.

Please don't misunderstand me. I didn't say there is a problem, I said your application for adjustment of status looks like it took a long time. It happens and is not indicative of something you or USCIS did wrong.

If you think something is wrong based on the information at your disposal, then you should talk to USCIS about it as we don't have all the elements in hand to help you. For example, if you believe your adjustment of status was approved in 2011 and you became a permanent resident at that time but never received a green card, then the green card you received last month should reflect that and say you have been a resident since December 2011, but apparently it does not say that. Whether it is correct or a USCIS error, I do not and cannot know.

Per my understanding so far, there is no problem, and like I said, getting your green card just took longer than usual. Therefore, as it is, and based on the information at my disposal so far, if you apply for citizenship in December 2014, you will be denied because you have not been a permanent resident for three years.

Let me restate again that the date on which you got married has zero bearing on your eligibility to apply for naturalization, so you should put that out of your mind. The ONLY thing that matters is when you became a permanent resident.

Then

on question 3 :

I have been a Permanent Resident for: ..... ...... ...... = you have to physically reside in the US (the first part)

Since you have been granted permanent resident status, and you have a permanent resident card, the answer to question 3 is the "resident since" date on your card -- keeping in mind you have to meet physical presence, continuous residence and other requirements at the time you apply for citizenship. So as a dumb example, if you took a trip abroad over 6 months in the next 3 years, that may reset your counter so that you would have to wait 3 years from the date you came back to the US after your 6+ month trip.

My point is you need to be mindful of all the requirements.