Shub

I know this link , but problem is {{ what day is my "permanent resident "}}

because i came by visa "K-!"

also i did marry on time too.

Everything was right and lawful . Then in normal way . after marry and sending or 1-485 form and other documents they need. I should be "permanent resident" without card

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in that link you sent me

page 1 / question 2

2. I am a Permanent Resident of the United States, and I have been issued a Permanent Resident Card (formerly called Alien Registration Card).

Then question is now, If "Permanent Resident" is meaning someone has a GC . then why they put "And" between two sentences

on question 3 same page.

They ask : 3. I have been a Permanent Resident for: .... ...... . .......

if they meaing by question (3) "to have Permanent Resident Card" why they didn't put CARD on end the question 3.

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These things make me confused.

It makes no matter what visa you came on, or when you got married, or anything.

It does look like your application for adjustment of status took abnormally long. Why that is, we do not know, but in the end, the "resident since" date on your green card is all that matters.

If you wish to challenge the date on which you did become a permanent resident and argue with USCIS that that was back in 2011, then you can take it up with them.

To answer your question about the "and" -- you need to submit a copy of your green card when applying for citizenship, so it not typically enough to be a permanent resident, you have to have the card so you can submit the photocopy of the front and back of the card along with your application for naturalization. In some situations that can be avoided, but I don't know such situations apply to you.

My mother just got her interview letter for April 15.

They ask to bring "any evidence of SS registration" - is not it Selective Service? She is a 69 years old lady..

Hope everything will go OK; we are worried, as her English is not very good - and she often would panic under stress..

Having a Social Security number is not a requirement to apply for citizenship, so surely they mean Selective Service registration. Since the applicant is female, it is not relevant. The interview letter is generic so not all pieces of documentation they request may be relevant to your case.

My GC resident since is same day i had interview. on

16-2-2014

what is meaing " triage "?

triage = ?

Thanks for posting your date. That means you can apply for citizenship after November 17th, 2016, provided you meet all the requirements on the date you choose to apply.

Triage: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/triage

Every case has the potential to be unique, but most cases have nothing out of the ordinary. If that is your case, look over the N-400 form. Do you feel comfortable answering those questions? Because that's all an attorney will do: you give them the info, they fill out the form on your behalf and charge you extra for it. What they charge depends on their hourly rate (which may vary by area of the US -- it's ~$300/hour in my area).

Of course they do other things, e.g. provide legal advice if you have questions or if your case features special circumstances, they may even appear in person before USCIS and represent you, but again, few people would need that. Based on what I've read on this forum, it's not uncommon for lawyers to feed you incorrect information, too

So in my opinion, the best place to start is to look over the following documents:

M-476, A Guide to Naturalization

N-400, Application for Naturalization (read the form, the instructions and the eligibility worksheet to start, and when you're getting ready to file, use the document checklist)

If you find yourself comfortable, then just go ahead and apply. You very rarely need a lawyer when applying for immigration benefits. If you have any questions, I bet most if not all of them may be answered by this forum.

Since you opened a separate thread, I'll just repost what I posted in response to you in the November filers thread, please disregard that thread and let's use this one instead for discussion.

Thanks dear Shub,

Then, what about this link,

Do you think this link is junk or wrong ?

on this link, please see " 8.1"

http://www.visajourn...ralization.html

8.1)...When can I apply for United States citizenship?

A...As a spouse of a US Citizen, you can apply for citizenship 3 (three) years after approval of your Adjustment of Status. Your approval may be noted via any of the following: approval notice (I-797), on your passport (I-551 stamp and date), your green card ("resident since" date). The 3 year countdown begins with that date. This 3 year period does not include long absences from the United States.

I'm not saying the VJ guide is good or bad, but I trust official resources (i.e. the USCIS website) above anything else.

What is the "resident since" date on your green card? Please look at your green card and share that date, if you don't mind.

It doesn't matter when you received your 10-year green card, if your adjustment of status from your K-1 visa was approved in December 2011, your green card should reflect that.

Addendum to my earlier post: after reading the details above (you should have shared all that sooner!), I think there is some confusion somewhere. So like I said, the "resident since" date on your green card is the determining factor.

Thanks dear Shub,

Then, what about this link,

Do you think this link is junk or wrong ?

on this link, please see " 8.1"

http://www.visajourn...ralization.html

8.1)...When can I apply for United States citizenship?

A...As a spouse of a US Citizen, you can apply for citizenship 3 (three) years after approval of your Adjustment of Status. Your approval may be noted via any of the following: approval notice (I-797), on your passport (I-551 stamp and date), your green card ("resident since" date). The 3 year countdown begins with that date. This 3 year period does not include long absences from the United States.

I'm not saying the VJ guide is good or bad, but I trust official resources (i.e. the USCIS website) above anything else.

What is the "resident since" date on your green card? Please look at your green card and share that date, if you don't mind.

It doesn't matter when you received your 10-year green card, if your adjustment of status from your K-1 visa was approved in December 2011, your green card should reflect that.

Hi all

I am not sure my post is right place or no, if it is wrong place sorry about that.

But this is very important to know, when i can apply for my US citizenship.

Those are about my stutaion.

Please Help!

I came in USA by k-1 visa on " Sep , 2011"

Also i married with my fiance, On "Nov /2011"

My I-797 Adjustment of Status approval was on Dec 15 /2011

My conditional green card never issued.

My 10 years green card arrive on" feb /2014"

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Can I fill out N-400 forms on Dec 20, 2015?

(it will be 3 years +10 days after my 1-797 date)

Look at your green card, it says somewhere, "Resident since". Next to that is a date. Add 3 years to that date, then subtract 90 days, and that's when your eligibility window opens, provided you meet all the other requirements.

I suggest you go to http://www.uscis.gov/n-400 and familiarize yourself with the requirements, the eligibility worksheet, and you should also go to http://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/citizenship-through-naturalization/guide-naturalization and read everything in detail.

Today I was finally able to track my application for a US passport through the website of the Department of State (having applied on Feb 22). It says it's "processing" which is good and expected

LOL! I agree Shub. When i sent a regular letter it takes about 2-3 day to end destination by First Class mail. I am not sure if USCIS sends the letter out the same day they schedule you, but if they did, they truly send it by snail mail.

I am pretty -- but not completely -- certain that my interview letter was actually postmarked on the date my case tracking status said they sent me the letter (December 31). Still took over a week to arrive.

On the USCIS website says i was scheduled for interview on February 28th. However, i still have not received the actual letter in the mail. Getting impatient here!. Hope i get it this week!

You probably will. If it was normal first-class mail, you should have received it last week in all likelihood, but USCIS must use some kind of mail powered by starved, sickly, poorly-trained rodents. I swear the first-class mail I send never takes that long to get to its recipient.

Well, if it were me:

Say no to 37 and 38.

Write N/A next to 39, 40, 41. It says in the instructions to answer all questions but type or print N/A if an item is not applicable.

No to 42, 43, 44, 45.

You could also use the old form if you're applying before May 5th.

We of the Borg welcome you

Just wondering if somebody had some insight about this. I registered to vote immediately after my oath on 2/20 in Chicago. Early voting started yesterday and I am still not showing up in the system when I look up my name and address.

How long does it usually take for one's name to appear in the system? I assume this varies depending on different factors.

Thanks.

I followed up today and looked myself up in the PA voters database, and I am there now. Looks like the system is working

I haven't received anything in the mail though, and I think I'm supposed to get something.

I walked in for early biometrics on Wednesday, March 5th. I was turned away just as expected at 4853 N Broadway, Chicago location, but I tried anyway

I was there at 3.30 pm (they close at 4). The guy asked me why I showed up at that time when they open at 8 am. I went there late bc my friend and her mom were turned away last year when they went early. Of course I didn't tell him that. He asked me to just come back the day of the appt., even though I told him my son has school that day and it's going to be really hard for me. he told me they will do it at any time that day if I can't make it at scheduled time and that it only takes 15 minutes to get biometrics done. I asked him for the civic questions book and he said just get it the day you come back. What a jerk

If you want the book before your appointment, you can get it online: http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/USCIS/Office%20of%20Citizenship/Citizenship%20Resource%20Center%20Site/Publications/PDFs/M-638_red.pdf

Personally I never even opened the study guide and used http://amaruk.atspace.com/tests/NewCivicsTest.html to learn the questions and answers. I already knew most of it anyway.

Applying even 1 day early means you will be denied and loss your filing fee.

I think I have heard of that happening after the application was accepted for processing, but as far as I know, the lockbox facility is supposed to notice your premature submission, refuse it on the spot and return you the whole thing, without having cashed the check of course.

Contact the courthouse or whatever authority has those records where he got married. They should have a record of it.

I believe you don't need any documents for traffic tickets where the fine was less than $500.

This is from the current N-400 instructions.

" You do not need to bring documentation for traffic fines and incidents ( unless alcohol - or drug related) that did not involve an actual arrest if the penalty was only a fine of less than $500 or points on your driver's license"

I was under the impression that you must disclose the tickets in the form but do not need to attach documentation regarding fines under $500 when submitting your application, but should have the evidence at the ready for the interview.

That said, you're right, the form does say that you do not need to bring documentation regarding traffic fines under $500, so that simplifies things.

You still must disclose them on your form, though.

Perhaps you can get an official letter from the DMV that says exactly what they told you verbally, i.e. that if you hadn't paid the fines, they would still have a record of them, but since it's been over 7 years and you paid the fines, they no longer have a record?

I doubt USCIS will push the issue for minor speeding tickets that happened so long ago, but it was an error not to mention them in your N-400 and you should make sure to bring it up in the interview since it's an opportunity to revise your answers in the presence of the IO.

Lol yeah I agree. I keep checking my bank account to see if the check has been cashed. What is NOA? I didn't sign up for the email/text alerts. Is that what it is?

NOA means Notice of Action. In the context of naturalization, it's the letter they mail you to let you know they've officially accepted your submission and will start processing it.

The day has come. Interview at 2p.

Viel Glück!

More questions. I remember people saying that if you are filing under the 3-year marriage rule then you only need to list your addresses from the past 3 years.. Is that true? I can't find that in the directions, this is all I've seen.. "List every address you have lived in 5 years (including other countries..) prior to filing n-400.." thoughts?

No, you do need to list all your addresses for the past 5 years regardless of your eligibility status, however if you have been a permanent resident for less than 5 years, then you simply list your addresses since you became a permanent resident.

Some people may apply based on the 3-year rule but have been residents for 6, 10, 20 years, and those people should list their addresses for the past 5 years.

Received a yellow letter requesting to bring driver license to the interview. Is that means interview will be scheduled soon?

I don't think it means anything. Some people get the yellow letter, some people don't. I didn't get one. You will get a separate letter with the actual scheduling of your interview. Just make sure to bring everything they tell you to bring in the yellow letter as well as the actual interview letter.

Hey guys i have a question..do you think it will be ok if i bring with me just my expire passport cause i cant renew it and if i do they will take the previous one thats the embassy of morroco and i do need it cause i have stamps on it.any help plz and thank you.

USCIS just wants to see the stamps, they don't care if your passport is expired. So no worries.

Hi all,

I'd be grateful for some input. I've been looking at the application form for N-400, which I'll be filing in the next couple of weeks, and I stumbled on Section 8: Time outside the United States for the past 5 years.

Like a large number of people in this forum, I came to the US as the spouse of a USC, and so I qualify to apply at the 3 year mark.

Needless to say, on year 4 and 5 (counting backwards from the present) I wasn't even living in the US, I wasn't even an LPR yet, so I don't know why they don't have a separate section/sub-question for the many of us who are only applying at the 3 year mark. I was wondering how others in the same position tackled this question when they were not even residents yet 4-5 years ago.

I meet the physical presence requirement for my 3 eligible years more than sufficiently (zero time outside the US on my first year as an LPR, 1,5 month on the second year, and another 1,5 month on the third year), so I'm fine on that front. I just don't know what information to give for 4-5 years ago, if any.

Thank you for any input.

That question confuses a lot of people because it's worded ambiguously.

What they're interested in knowing is what you've been doing since you became a permanent resident.

If you had been a permanent resident for, say, 20 years, they would only want to know about the past 5 years. Since you've only been an LPR for 3 years, just disclose your travel information since the "resident since" date on your green card.

Hello Everybody,

i need help i arrive here in the US july 14 of 2009 and i obtain my permanent green card through a fiancé visa.. i got divorce and i wanna apply for citizenship this yr since ive been in the US for 5 yrs. this coming july... and also i got married again and now i have a 10 month old baby..

My question is when im i suppose to send my papers to apply for citizenship? im thinking july? or is it the month when i first got my temporary green card?

what evidence do i need to include in my application?

Did you get approved for removal of conditions on your permanent residence, and what is the date next to "resident since" on your green card? That is the date you use to determine when your eligibility window starts. Add 5 years to that date, subtract 90 days, and you have your eligibility date. You can apply after that date.

For the evidence you need to include in your application, please go to http://www.uscis.gov/n-400 and read everything carefully.