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On 6/20/2022 at 12:28 AM, Family said:
Can you clarify if you filed your I-130 on 04/2022 and received USCIS approval on 06/2022 without an expedite request? That is the timeline that appears from your original post.
To avoid circular discussions and delays w NVC ( since you cannot get a Supervisory Review) , just Google your Congressman , look for Case Authorization Form, print and complete it . Ask for help in dealing with NVC as they are rejecting the document in error thus causing hardship and delays. You can email ( copy of certificate, your emails ) the form today, w a copy of your id so they can verify you live in their district and follow up w a phone in a few days to make sure they have forwarded your request to the Congressional Liason .
This is free and quite effective.
thanks working on this now.
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How Often Can I Request an Expedite?
Is there a minimum time frame between expedite requests?
I requested an expedite about 3 weeks ago and was denied. Then, last week I was sent a checklist for something completely out of my control so now I want to provide evidence that it was out of my control and request to expedite.
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On 6/18/2022 at 12:50 AM, pushbrk said:
If you have the correct document for 2007, then print and upload the document you linked to. If it's not in English, get it translated and upload both the original and the translation.
Is that going to be enough to move us out of NVC and to the interview?
I have an email conversation with literally the person who is in charge of the documentation at the district office as well. He tells me very plainly that I can't get it.
I'm also considering hiring a Korean lawyer to write a letter. Is that overkill? I really just want to get through NVC and onto the interview ASAP. -
13 minutes ago, ROK2USA said:
I would try anything. Good luck!
Thanks. Did some more digging and found 권민정 responsibilities.
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58 minutes ago, ROK2USA said:
Re-upload the marriage certificate with the correspondence from Gwon MinJeong (showing their credentials/official email). Then write a note stating you married prior to 2008 and this is the only documentation available.
They closed the phone lines a few weeks back. Not sure if they will open them back up again. People would call NVC if they made an error when reviewing documents.
Have you managed to move your case to France yet? You can send another message to NVC explaining your issue. Hopefully if you log your complaint not only via the upload but also through the NVC email they'll DQ you after you upload the W2s/1099s and the same marriage certificate.
Thanks, I'm going to find a proper government source and get it translated. Hopefully I can find some old notice or something from the US embassy in Korea itself noting the change.
Yes, I requested to expedite and change location at the same time. Location was approved; expedite was denied.
Is it possible to be DQ'd without going to "the back of the line?"
I am considering sending another expedite request for the marriage certificate as it's clearly out of my realm of responsibility. Any opinions about that?
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19 minutes ago, ROK2USA said:
Go through the questionnaire for the Financial Evidence assistant:
Oh...I just followed the written instructions for the 864 and it said pretty clearly either tax return with W2s or just a transcript.
19 minutes ago, ROK2USA said:Who is Gwon MinJeong? If you can chat to they and see if they can get official documentation stating this was the marriage record you received in 2007 and there is no alternatives maybe do that (and upload that statement) OR see if you they can go to Gwangju and get an updated record of your marriage... Unfortunately the phone lines for NVC are closed... so you can't chat to a Tier 2 officer to escalate the matter.
You might also consider emailing the consulate in Seoul and ask them how to manage the situation... they might have some knowledge on the documentation for two foreigners who married before 2008.
He or she is an administrator of some kind in the office of the district in which we were married: Jongno-gu.
When I filled out the I-130 I requested a new certificate and was told that what I got was all I could get.
I have been told the same thing by Gwon MinJeong.
He or she is the person who would be sending me the document, as far as I know.
My wife had a green card right after we were married and she was accepted by NVC with the marriage certificate we have now, which I have provided to NVC. She officially abandoned residency after several years absence. We have been trying to do this by the book.
The phone lines are closed now or forever? How would escalating this to a Tier 2 help me and how do I do that? Thanks for all your help! -
10 hours ago, ROK2USA said:
Is your joint sponsor married and filing (MFJ)? If they are- you need to include W2s/1099s.
Ok, understood. Is that outline anywhere in the instructions? That if MFJ then include W2s/1099s?
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25 minutes ago, Zin-Zin said:
It was in English.
Check out this plot twist. The form described on the US website was not available before January 1 2008. I got married in April 2007.
There was an entire change to the family registration system that passed April 27 2007 and went into effect on January 1 2008. I haven't found anything specifically about the document that the NVC is requesting, but it seems that what I've been told is legitimate. How do I proceed?
https://www.gjcity.go.kr/portal/contents.do?mId=0402040100 -
13 minutes ago, Zin-Zin said:
No, it's not.
But when I went through the I-130, I applied for a new marriage certificate. When I got it, I asked for a more official document, and I was told that the document I had was the only one I could get.
Fast forward to today, and according to the person in the district office in Seoul that I am in correspondence with by email, that document that you linked above did not exist before January 1, 2008. I was married in April 2007.
I am currently looking for an official source that describes the creation of this document.
How do I proceed?
There was an entire change to the family registration system that passed April 27 2007 and went into effect on January 1 2008.
https://www.gjcity.go.kr/portal/contents.do?mId=0402040100 -
10 hours ago, pushbrk said:
They will want the exact document described here.
Is that what you uploaded?
No, it's not.
But when I went through the I-130, I applied for a new marriage certificate. When I got it, I asked for a more official document, and I was told that the document I had was the only one I could get.
Fast forward to today, and according to the person in the district office in Seoul that I am in correspondence with by email, that document that you linked above did not exist before January 1, 2008. I was married in April 2007.
I am currently looking for an official source that describes the creation of this document.
How do I proceed?
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3 hours ago, ROK2USA said:
The certificate you used: Was it in English or Korean?
I just saw in another forum someone's Korean marriage documents weren't accepted....
Have you checked this video to see if you have the correct document?
https://uploads.mwp.mprod.getusinfo.com/uploads/sites/67/2022/05/Instruction-pkt_MIV_Expd.pdf (this PDF is from Seoul Embassy Korea and has a video link explaining the correct documentation and sample translation).
If you do not have the correct document you will have to enlist the services of a third party to go to the place you got married and get another copy for you.
It was in English.
Check out this plot twist. The form described on the US website was not available before January 1 2008. I got married in April 2007. -
1 minute ago, Mozillaman said:
I'd recommend calling the office in Korea and explaining your situation and telling them exactly what's being asked for from the embassy website. If what they gave you is the only document they can give you, ask to receive that in writing as well, put it and the document in the same PDF and provide it as evidence again.
If you don't mind my prying, why did you get married in a country neither of you live in/are citizens of?
They're likely looking for 2021 now.
He filed an extension for 2021. I included that. The message says W2s for 2020.
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3 minutes ago, Boiler said:
I assume with the Joint Sponsor you did not show they met the financial requirements often they are opaque in explaining what you missed
No, I think I did a pretty good job of that. I included transcripts for 2020, a copy of tax filing extension, and proof of current income. And the document says it was "Accepted" anyway. Not sure what's going on there.
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1 minute ago, Mozillaman said:
You want to go here and look under the marriage section for details:
Yes, I saw this. The problem is when I applied with the I-130, the administrator told me that he was giving me the only document I could get, which was satisfactory for the USCIS but not the NVC.
I have no idea how to get the document. We are nowhere near Korea.
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On 4/5/2022 at 3:23 AM, pushbrk said:
Yes, but unfortunately, people are still unnecessarily confused by the instruction artifact not to leave anything blank. The PDF forms and online forms actually FORCE blank fields.
Hello again! So I just found out that we did not get DQ'd.
They want my joint sponsor's 2020 W2s, despite giving them the IRS transcripts.
But the bigger issue seems to be that they are not recognizing my marriage certificate from South Korea. I applied for a replacement when filing the I-130. I asked and the Korean administrator told me that he was giving me the only document I could get.
Do you have any ideas about this? Is there any way around this? So now when I refile, we have to wait another 2.5 months, right?
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49 minutes ago, Zin-Zin said:
We just got the news that they were requiring some documents.
They wanted 2 things.
1. The W2s from the joint sponsor. Not sure why. We uploaded IRS transcripts. As you see in the picture, it says 'Accepted' anyway. Not sure what that means.
2. The marriage certificate was not accepted. Crazy b/c my wife had a green card before when we were first married and the marriage certificate worked just fine then.
So now we have to get the documents and then wait at the back of the line again. Right?
Gutted!I was just denied for not having an appropriate marriage certificate. We need what's called a "Certificate of Acceptance."
My wife and I were married in Korea, but we are both non-Koreans.
Does anyone have any experience or advice on how to get that "Certificate of Acceptance" from abroad?
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We just got the news that they were requiring some documents.
They wanted 2 things.
1. The W2s from the joint sponsor. Not sure why. We uploaded IRS transcripts. As you see in the picture, it says 'Accepted' anyway. Not sure what that means.
2. The marriage certificate was not accepted. Crazy b/c my wife had a green card before when we were first married and the marriage certificate worked just fine then.
So now we have to get the documents and then wait at the back of the line again. Right?
Gutted!
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On 5/26/2022 at 12:42 AM, nelmagriffin said:
Greetings!
Just my two cents. So, it is very simple, if you have contacted the Korean Embassy and they say that she does not have to have it, because she was just a tourist then request for an official letter of what they just said to prove your case about this matter, then in one letter, write an explanation and attached that official letter, if not, try to apply, I think they will need a passport ,so if they could not find her name on their criminal data base, then the result will still be no criminal record. Kind regards, NG
reference: South Korea (state.gov)
Police/Prison Records
Available
Fees: There are no fees.
Document Name: For Korean national applicants: Criminal (Investigation) Records Check Reply ‘For permission of foreign country immigration and stay’ “Bomjoi-Soosakyongryeok Hoiboseo: Waekuk Yipkuk-Chaeryu Heogayong”
For Foreign national applicants: Criminal Records Certificate “Bomjoikyungryeokjeungmyungseo”
Issuing Authority: It is issued at any local police station in Korea.
Special Seal(s) / Color / Format: It is printed electronically with an official seal of the chief of the issuing police station on white paper. A computer-generated anti-fraud logo should be at the bottom of the certificate.
Issuing Authority Personnel Title: Commissioner General, Korean National Police Agency
Registration Criteria: Criminal (Investigation) Records Check Reply ‘For permission of foreign country immigration and stay’ and Criminal Records Certificate provide an individual’s Criminal Records. These certificates are also available to people who have never been arrested or convicted of any crime and will state that there is no record of an arrest or conviction.
Procedure for Obtaining: Korean citizens must apply in person at a local police station. Korean citizens must show their Korean identification card “Jumindeungrokjeung” or passport. Individuals can print certificates online at minwon24.go.kr if they have an authentication certificate.
Foreign National Applicants must request Criminal Records Certificate at a police station with a Foreign Affairs Division (Waesa Gwa). The Korean police search a foreign national's records using the foreign national's Korean alien registration card or passport. A passport and one photo are required, and the certificate may be picked up at the same police station. An application (Sample Application) can be obtained at the police station. The application takes approximately 1 week to process and no fee is required.
Certified Copies Available: Certified copies are not available.
Alternate Documents: South Koreans and foreigners living outside Korea can obtain a police certificate at a Korean Embassy or Consulate. The requestor should download the police certificate request application from the official KNPA website at minwon.police.go.kr (accessible by clicking on the “civil format” link under the “customer center” tab) and apply for the certificate in person at a Korean Embassy/Consulate. People who reside outside of Korea and far away from a Korean Embassy or Consulate can mail an application to the Korean National Police Agency. The mailing address and guidance are provided at Korean National Police Agency website at minwon.police.go.kr. People who submit requests by mail should contact the Korean National Police by phone at 82-2-3150-2676 after mailing the application.
Exceptions: None
Comments: The certificate may be issued as a single document or as separate Criminal Records Check Reply and Investigation Records Check Reply. Both are acceptable, but if issued as separate documents, both the Criminal Records Check Reply and Investigation Records Check Reply must be submitted.
Hi, just seeing this response now. It's not that Korea is saying she doesn't NEED one. They are saying she CANNOT have one. She needs an Alien Registration Number to get one. No such thing exists for a tourist.
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Just now, ROK2USA said:
Write the letter. You should be DQ'ed. I know a friend of mine was asked to provide a PCC from UK but it was waived because her time in UK was under 12 months (but over 6).
Yes, we've written it and uploaded it to the CEAC. We should get the documents looked at in late June.
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3 minutes ago, ROK2USA said:
Take it one step at a time.
If the dates your wife provided was less than 12 months. Upload the information from NVC stating she lived there for less than 12 months and does not need the PCC.
This should get you DQ'ed.
Then hope and pray the CO agrees with you...
What were the dates you provided on the DS260 for her time in Korea and the other country?
I don't remember off hand, but the total time in Korea was 10 months and Ireland was 7 months.
Crazy how if AOS you don't need any of this. Seems like punishing people for following the rules. -
5 minutes ago, ROK2USA said:
A few months back, a man was posting about his difficulty in obtaining a Chinese PCC for his wife. It was unavailable because she was never officially a resident (but legally in the country for 12+ months). CO didn't care. He tried to obtain the PCC for months and finally stopped posting updates.
Jeez. So our future plans of living in America might all be lost b/c of a PCC that she technically doesn't need (living in Korea less than 12 months)?
Do you remember the user name of that case? -
1 minute ago, ROK2USA said:
I know a few people who engaged in visa runs pre-pandemic.
I won't go into details but getting picked up as Westerner for any type of crime is highly unlikely.
Unless you make a Korean really angry and the call the police on you.
ETA: Korea is one of the countries that are A-Okay with visa runs.
I know a couple of people who will take a trip to Japan for a few hours and then come back to Korea for another 3 months.
Yes, that's what she did. Usually weekend trips. The problem is that we have no proof of this. It was 15 years ago.
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2 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:
I would keep that to explain why she can't get a PCC......IF THEY ASK for one.
Roger that.
If we do get a checklist for this I'm going to request to expedite because of NVC delay. There is NO guidance that I see ANYWHERE that an embassy can alter civil document requirements. If, if, if...hopefully does not come to that! -
7 minutes ago, ROK2USA said:
Is NVC requesting the police check or are you thinking you need to supply one?
When I uploaded my civil documents.
South Korea and South Africa police checks were required documents.
If the total time spent in South Korea was under 12 months. Write a letter explaining she lived in Korea for less than 12 months and a PCC is not required.
If the total time spent in South Korea was over 12 months. Write a letter explaining she was staying in Korea as a tourist and Korea does not supply PCCs to people who are not/have never been residents.
The letter should get you DQ'ed but you might encounter issues after the interview.
The NVC asked for 2 police certificates we were not expecting after we submitted the DS-260. We did not expect them because we followed the guidelines here and there is nothing, nothing, nothing about the embassies being able to modify civil document requirements.
We have uploaded a letter explaining our logic for not needing them.
After looking more here, this is straight from the official Korean government website. She needs an Alien Registration Number to apply and NEVER had one because she just went on visa runs. (We were young once!)
1 minute ago, Jorgedig said:I wonder what South Korea does if someone who is ‘visiting’ for 12 months commits a crime? Surely there must be a record.
that's what I thought as well. Like, run a police records search and export the result. Why so difficult?
I-864 N/A even in these blanks?
in IR-1 / CR-1 Spouse Visa Process & Procedures
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So the document is quite long. I am translating the initial 200 words that explain a new law has gone into effect and creating a new system of household and family registration. Is that enough or do I need to get the entire page translated?
I've attached the letter I plan to send as explanation of what happened. Do you think it's sufficient?
Letter Explaining Wrong Documentation.pdf