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@Wuozopo @Greenbaum and the rest of you amazing people that helped and advised! 

 I hope you don’t mind the tags guys but I needed you to read this.

Today our visa status’ turned to issued! And it’s all because of the help and advice you gave! You guys are amazing, I honestly don’t even think I can put it into words how thankful I am for your help. @Wuozopo  the example letters you gave literally Turned this whole thing around I believe.  Both yours and @Greenbaum knowledge on all this have got us to this stage and we are so grateful. We’ve not had to hand any of what was requested.  They didn’t inform us they was sorting it, it literally just changed to NIV AP Tuesday and issued today! 

Again thank you all

2 minutes ago, Nitas_man said:

“Ready” was a critical clue.  Good luck to you.

The ready is the previous status it was at.  They’ve now all changed to ap 

10 minutes ago, Nitas_man said:

K visas are technically nonimmigrant visas so my guess is that they sorted out your file and they are moving forward with final processing.

Omggggg really 😍😍 currently having heart palpitations! Ahhhh I hope you’re right!!!! 

Hey guys, 

so I don’t know if any of you can remember but I had my interview last month and things went weird. They told me I got the wrong form, (I hadn’t) and issued me with a 221g requesting the I864 form and tax transcript. 

With some help from some of the awesome peeps on here I emailed the embassy, last week they replied saying they was looking into the matter. Then this morning, I’ve checked the site on the off chance of a change.  And the whole things has changed.  Could anybody give me a in site into what may of happened? 

It’s still in AP, but it’s gone from immigrant to non immigrant application at the top and also it’s changed the k2s into ap.  as well as a whole new case date.  

Thanks in advance guys 

Hey, 

could any one tell me if we need to worry about petition expiration after interview whilst waiting to send in documents for 221g? 

Our petition is due to expire on July 18th, I had my interview on June 20th and was issued a 221g requesting more evidence.  However we’ve been advised the papers requested will not be here in time.  Do I need to worry about this date? Or does the 221g date replace that? 

1 hour ago, Wuozopo said:

You know, if they would just write back and say the I-134 is the correct form, BUT the officer was not convinced and would rather see a more detailed support form and tax transcript before making a decision. Then you would have a decent answer. 

Yes totally agree with this. 

I believe she is wanting confirmation from the transcripts because of the k2s travelling with me. 

The more my head clears from the confusion and stress it does seem like she may have been mistaken. 

When she first said “one of them had submitted the incorrect form” I questioned her who and which form was needed.  She waved her hand over towards both of the I-134 forms and said I’ll give you the information on which form in a moment.  She then picked at the i-134s not actually reading much of the forms but looked for a moment at the w2. She then said that she wanted more evidence to show that the k2s will be supported.  (The w2 exceeds the 125% poverty guideline) this is when she got the 221g out,  marked and underline the i864 and started to circle it. Then marked and fully circled the tax transcripts areas as seen in previous photos.  

Is it wrong of me to think that she stopped halfway through circling the i864 part because she realised she had made a mistake, but wasn’t about to admit it?

1 hour ago, Boiler said:

As expected they just want the I 134.

Agreed and they currently have those along with my passports and everything else. 

My only worry is what do I send with the 221g other than the transcripts. 

19 hours ago, Greenbaum said:

My guess is the cosponsor, as a 864 can be enforceable where the 134 is not. 

Sorry for the quote I am unable to tag you, any chance you could look at the email I attached above and give your opinion at this stage? 

19 hours ago, Wuozopo said:

 

ashwee---

I would contact the embassy and say:

 

I need clarification on a 221(g) received at my K1 Fiancé interview on June 20, 2019. It is marked and circled to submit Forms I-864 instead of the I-134s which I submitted from both my fiancé and a co-sponsor. Your K1 instructions say "K and Diversity visa applicants are not required to provide an I-864 Form." The 9 FAM 302.8-2(B)(2)(f)(3) says a K1 fiancé is not authorized to use Form I-864 and should provide Form I-134, which I did provide.

Question: Why am I asked in a 221(g) to provide an I-864 for my K1 Nonimmigrant visa?  Is that a mistake or a new requirement? 

 

Here is the contact form you use https://uk.usembassy.gov/iv-contact/

 

 

The embassy have contacted me back this morning with a reply which I have attached. 

I have replied saying that this is what I have handed over.  

Hope you don’t mind the quote, I was hoping I could pick your brain on it. At this point do you think it could of been a mistake made yesterday? 

2 hours ago, Shiran said:

With all the arguing back and forth about which form, please do not miss the important part. They want Tax transcripts. Lack of tax transcripts, is what kicked that whole thing of, not wrong form. So make sure both of your co-sponsors go to https://www.irs.gov/individuals/get-transcript and get transcripts for "Income Verification" for last 3 years. 

Thank you, they had got straight on that and ordered them yesterday. 

1 hour ago, TheSkywalkers said:

The co-sponsor has to provide the same documents that the petitioner needs to provide. So with the petitioner being required to provide Tax Transcripts, the co-sponsor must do the same. For K1, make sure you use form I-134 for the affidavit of support and the co-sponsor will fill out and sign the same form. Before you send them anything back, double check and make sure all fields that need to be filled out are properly answered. Failing to tick a box that should've been answered can significantly change your timeline in the process. 

 

All the best!

Both petitioner and cosponsor had filled out the I-134 but they have now requested a i-864

2 minutes ago, Ash. said:

I would just go ahead and inquire and start getting the I864 forms filled out, they’re a little longer than the I-134.

Already started 🙈 

9 minutes ago, Jenny17655 said:

The embassy requested the I864 but I had the co sponsor fill out the I134

We already had the co sponsors I-134 with us though

12 minutes ago, Jenny17655 said:

I too received the 221g the embassy in Jamaica did this to me as well.  Requested the I864 from a co sponsor.  I secured a co sponsor and had them fill out the  I134 with no issue.

Had the cosponsor fill out the I134 or the I864? 

6 minutes ago, Wuozopo said:

 

ashwee---

I would contact the embassy and say:

 

I need clarification on a 221(g) received at my K1 Fiancé interview on June 20, 2019. It is marked and circled to submit Forms I-864 instead of the I-134s which I submitted from both my fiancé and a co-sponsor. Your K1 instructions say "K and Diversity visa applicants are not required to provide an I-864 Form." The 9 FAM 302.8-2(B)(2)(f)(3) says a K1 fiancé is not authorized to use Form I-864 and should provide Form I-134, which I did provide.

Question: Why am I asked in a 221(g) to provide an I-864 for my K1 Nonimmigrant visa?  Is that a mistake or a new requirement? 

 

Here is the contact form you use https://uk.usembassy.gov/iv-contact/

 

 

Thank you so much for this. 

Mall you peeps are making me feel so much better about all this. 

Last question ive just checked the ceac site to see what it says and it says for me I’m in administrative processing but for my 2 k2s it says ready. Is this normal? 

Just now, Greenbaum said:

My guess is the cosponsor, as a 864 can be enforceable where the 134 is not. 

Just now, Greenbaum said:

My guess is the cosponsor, as a 864 can be enforceable where the 134 is not. 

Thank you 

2 minutes ago, Greenbaum said:

My experience is that the man with the gold makes the rules. Regardless of what we think and what is in regulations the CO is requiring these documents. So OP will need to find a way to meet their requirements. JMHO.

Thank you.

co-sponsor and petitioner are happy to fill out these forms also.  We’re just lost for who needs to as she said one of them filled out the incorrect form and they need to fill out the I-864 but she did not clarify who or if both. 

5 minutes ago, Wuozopo said:

I could see them asking for a transcript for further clarification of income but not an I-864.

 

Besides what the London K1 instructions say there's.....

9 FAM 302.8  

(U) PUBLIC CHARGE - INA 212(A)(4)

 

9 FAM 302.8-2(B)(2)(f)

(3)  (U) Use of Form I-134, Affidavit of Support:  

(a)  (U) Because INA 212(a)(4)(C) and INA 213A require the use of Form I-864 for so many classes of immigrants, the use of Form I-134, has been reduced considerably.  Nevertheless, there still are circumstances when Form I-134 may be beneficial.  This affidavit, submitted by the applicant at your request, is not legally binding on the sponsor and should not be accorded the same weight as Form I-864.  Form I-134 should be given consideration as one form of evidence, however, in conjunction with the other forms of evidence mentioned below.

(b)  (U) If any of the following applicants need an Affidavit of Support to meet the public charge requirement, they must use Form I-134, as they are not authorized to use Form I-864:

(i)     (U) Returning resident applicants (SBs);

(ii)    (U) Diversity visa applicants (DVs); and 

(iii)    (U) Fiancé(e)s (K-1s or K-3s).

 

 

 

In simple terms, is this saying I-864 form is not able to be used? 

8 minutes ago, missileman said:

You could be exactly correct.  They could have pulled the wrong "canned" response......

Had the CO hand-written "I-864", I would be more of his/her intent to actually mean I-864.

She was well aware it was k1 visa as we spoke about wedding plans. She said if we had a co sponsor that one of them had filled out the wrong form.  I wonder if she has made a mistake? 

Just now, Ash. said:

Ya I saw it after wards, thanks for posting the pics

Just now, Ash. said:

Ya I saw it after wards, thanks for posting the pics

I just saw that you saw 😂🙈 on the train. Internet super slow on loading pics 🙈

3 minutes ago, payxibka said:

They are requesting transcripts,  not an i864

Just now, Ash. said:

Oh well shoot. @payxibka

I uploaded 2 photos  one of each side.   She’s marked the affidavit also

8 minutes ago, Ash. said:

Agree'd.

@Ashweehehe

You can clear your attachments by going to the top right, click on your name, click on My Attachments, and then delete any old attachments in old threads. This will allow you to post more attachments.

7 minutes ago, Ash. said:

Agree'd.

@Ashweehehe

You can clear your attachments by going to the top right, click on your name, click on My Attachments, and then delete any old attachments in old threads. This will allow you to post more attachments.

1 minute ago, Ash. said:

Yeah I agree 100%.

I am just curious if this is going to set a precedent. Greenbaum has seen it apparently, but I haven't in my time here.

 

Yeah, we know, which is why we're trying to figure out why London of all places is requesting it. Going from no I-134's to requesting I-864's is a big swing. I told the OP to send an inquiry. 

Dumb question. How do I find out where to send an enquiry to? 

2 minutes ago, payxibka said:

I864 is not the correct affidavit 

They have requested form I-864, I-864EZ or I-864w