RainbowGuppy

4 hours ago, RainbowGuppy said:

As the title says, my husband and I have applied for a visa last year and yesterday he went to his final.interview and they flat out denied the visa Do my on the reason that we met on facebook 6 years ago. My father was a avodite of support and makes 66k per year. I went last year to Pakistan to visit him so we could use that as proof. We gave them ample proof as to our marriage, relationship beyond facebook and that we were completely able to take care of ourselves but regardless of all the proof, it was flat out denied just because we initially on facebook. Is that even a legal reason? What steps should I take next? 

 

My husband has informed me that they have denied every single visa of couples who met on facebook. Is there any justace I cam get for this? It's such a bad excuse. 

 

Please someone help. I have known him for 6 years. We really wanna be together but we are at a loss at this point. 

UPDATE: I have figured out that it was not because of facebook, It was because lack of facetime. I have known him for 6 years but only been married one year. I have visited him one time for a short time and got married then. It was a fault on my part to apply for the visa so early and without more visits. The fact we met on facebook was not the real reason it was denied. thats just all he could understand from the reply the interviewer gave him. His English is broken but i can still clearly understand what he is saying and comparing it to when i met him, it has significantly improved. 

our next plan of action is he takes some more english classes to improve his english and I plan another more longer visit to him and stay there as long as i can. I think it would be a great idea as well to get an apartment as like another couple did and try to set up a joint bank account while there as to show we are serious. 

also for the curious posters as to why I didn't visit more then once is because i spent 4 years of the 6 as a broke collage student and one year working full time as to pay for that trip. the 6th year as was filing the visa and working to do so. during the processing time, i tore all the ligaments in my left knee and was unable to work for 4 months and so in turn was unable to visit and i was living off savings in that time. since then i have had major surgery and was diagnosed with danlos ehlers syndrome which means i cant do most jobs like standing for long periods of time and any type of repetitive lifting as all my joints are effected. 

I gave evidence for this as hoping it would help but it made no difference. I suppose I have to start again form square one. 

thanks for everyones help. 

1 minute ago, bestluck said:

 

Facebook is not a problem I am from Pakistan I am green card holder since 2014 I meet my wife in 2005 in Yahoo CHAT . we got married in Pakistan 2008 Since 2008 my visa was process and got denied couple times tho been hardest time of our life i got my IR1 /CR1 Visa on 2014 and come to us at 2014 so if you really love your husband and you guys have work out together tho whole process this is very important and process is nightmare so stay positive and your husband will get it plus Administrative process  take longer between 2 years to 3 years in Islamabad Embassy Some case could take a few month to get visa Go to Islamabad Administrative process page please for more information 

26 minutes ago, KozmicBlues said:

This is a really good point. I met my husband initially through work (different locations - talked on IM/phone calls) and we became friends on FB. We knew each other for about 5 years when we filed the K1, but only about 1.5-2 of those years were us in an actual romantic relationship. We made that very clear in our evidence and did not try to say that we had been together for 5 years, even though we had known each other that long, because then it would make the # of meetings seem less. Although I went to visit him 3 times in less than a year - so 1 time in 6 years is nothing compared to most. 

I see now how that would look on the documents because we have only been married a year but we have known eachother for 6

1 hour ago, Ayesha Kakar said:

I will be following this as my husband, who is from Pakistan, and I met over 3 years ago through Facebook. But since then I've been to Pakistan 3 times to be with him. 1st trip was 11 days, 2nd trip 30 days and was when we married (ended up renting an apartment for the month and have the rent agreement for it), 3rd trip 17 days. So 3 trips in 18 months. And I'm curious to see what was asked in his interview and find out the reasons given for denial. 

 

If you dont mind me asking, when did you marry? I'm confused with the timeline of 6 years together and married but only going to meet him once.

 

I'm sorry that you are struggling through this, and dont have clear answers from his interview. Hopefully you get the full details soon.

i have figured out that the main reason for it being denied was because they wanted more then just one visit as proof. He said the reason was facebook because according to the interviewers, our relationship is "strictly" online. They wanted more proof that we were compatible as a couple. You have lived with your husband and have a rent bill (supposedly) together but other posters are saying they could want years worth of proof together. I think you will be fine. I married last July so we have known eachother 6 years but only married one year. I got married at the end of my first visit there.  

The plan next i think for us is for me to plan another trip there for longer this time and get some more proof of a relationship beyond online. I just wish i have known this earlier. 

1 minute ago, Ahmed&Freda said:

If you feel you have more evidence to submit now you can attempt to have your senator request a second interview.  Perhaps you can attend.   I tried to get a second interview but it was returned the same day my senator made contact.

 

Once the case reaches NVC it will be there for about a month or so then forwarded to USCIS.   You'll get a notification when USCIS is reviewing your case.   Once you receive a NOIR from USCIS (this is a Notice of Intent to Revoke the originally approved petition) you''ll have 30 days to respond with your rebuttal against the embassy's claims.

 

In the meantime you need to plan more visits an compile more evidence of an ongoing relationship.   Meet his family (if you haven't already).   Make sure you document everything.  

 

There isn't much you can do right now...your only option is to wait.   

 

Thank you. You and The other posters have made it clear too as to why it was actually denied and its not because of solely facebook.

Just now, JFH said:

Have you looked into moving to Pakistan? Or a third country where you can be together? Maybe UAE? If all you want is to be together the location is unimportant. 

That was our next course of action. I refuse to move to Pakistan as how much I am not comfortable on how much attention I get there but he really want s to move to Germany but UAE might be a better option 

Just now, Ben&Zian said:

Yep, either a misunderstanding on his part as to what the CO said or the CO gave a smoke-screen answer using FB as a reason to say he doesn't believe the marriage is genuine. More in person meeting is definately probably easiest was to help solve this.

Thank you 

5 minutes ago, JFH said:

Did you convert for him or is your family Muslim? 

I converted on my own accord and not for him. He just introduced me to Islam.

10 minutes ago, JFH said:

Since his English is poor, he may have misunderstood. They probably said that it’s because your relationship seems to be completely carried out on Facebook. Only one face-to-face visit. From your previous posts you sent things from Facebook as your evidence for the I-130 but not much else. It seems like this is a Facebook-only relationship. Has he met your family? Did you include birthday or holiday cards sent to him by your family? Or ones sent by his family to you? Do you have anything other than Facebook chats to demonstrate your marriage?

 

Also if his English is poor, despite communicating with an American daily for the last 6 years, they could also be concerned that you can’t communicate well with each other. Or that you don’t communicate regularly at all. Since he wants to move here, did he not think it might be a good idea to take some English classes? 

Thank you, finally some real answers. However since we met, we have been talking daily on various platforms including facebook, Skype, actual phone calls, whatsapp, and email. I sent him all the paperwork we needed and he printed roof of our talks beyond facebook. He has met my family on facebook and talks to them regularly. We have applied for a visit visa for him.to come here but it was denied as he failed to give enough proof that he would return after the visit whichdoaent make sense as I don't know what more proof he could of provided as he owns his own business and is the boss there. His English is not perfect but I can clearly understand what he is saying. 

3 minutes ago, JFH said:

Are there any other red flags in your case? What’s the age difference? Are you of the same religion and ethnic background? How many previous marriages? What kind of work do you both do? I did see a denial once where it was assumed they couldn’t possibly have a genuine relationship as one had a PhD and the other didn’t complete high school. 

He has a bachelor of arts and I have an associate's of science. We are both Muslim.and the same age. Neither of us have been married before. He owns his own business and I am full time at Wal-Mart. 

2 minutes ago, missileman said:

Your definition of "ample" might not agree with the CO's definition, unfortunately. 

So what does it mean?? 

Nobody is giving me actual information on what I should be doing next? 

1 minute ago, Ahmed&Freda said:

Although meeting on Facebook may be an issue they will place on your NOIR it would not be the sole reason for the denied visa.   Most likely you just did not satisfy the embassy of a bonafide relationship and will have a chance to prove them otherwise when your case reaches USCIS.   Meeting my husband online was point #1 listed on our NOIR of the embassy claims...and it said "Beneficiary claims to have met the petitioner through an online game" that's it.  No further explanation....but there were 3 other reasons stated in the letter besides this.   In which we have overcome all.   

 

IF your case is returned you'll have a chance to rebut the embassy's claims.  Make sure you document your husbands entire recollection of the interview.  Its extremely important that you know every detail before the NOIR arrives so you can begin working on your case 

We gave them ample proof we talk beyond facebook, we gave proof of when I went to visit him last year, we gave proof we have talked on the phone and we talk regularly on whatsapp. We video chat daily and gave proof of that too.  We said we met on facebook but gave plenty of proof otherwise. 

It says on the paper "sending for revocation" 

I feel as if it was for some other reason, they would have told us.

They gave him the paper saying why it was denied and the only thing written on it was across the top saying it was denied. No other reason was marked on the paper. Every thing I sent them was accepted online. He also said about it was that they Said that his English was poor. (Which shouldn't matter) 

if it was because we didn't meet enough times or that it was because he was unfit to marry then would they have just said that directly instead of telling him that it was denied because we ment on facebook? 

As the title says, my husband and I have applied for a visa last year and yesterday he went to his final.interview and they flat out denied the visa Do my on the reason that we met on facebook 6 years ago. My father was a avodite of support and makes 66k per year. I went last year to Pakistan to visit him so we could use that as proof. We gave them ample proof as to our marriage, relationship beyond facebook and that we were completely able to take care of ourselves but regardless of all the proof, it was flat out denied just because we initially on facebook. Is that even a legal reason? What steps should I take next? 

My husband has informed me that they have denied every single visa of couples who met on facebook. Is there any justace I cam get for this? It's such a bad excuse. 

Please someone help. I have known him for 6 years. We really wanna be together but we are at a loss at this point. 

1 hour ago, geowrian said:

Well there you go...that's pretty light on marriage/relationship evidence.

 

Do you have each other as beneficiaries on any policies, wills, etc.? Have you met more than once? You should be able to find evidence of the other trips, even if it's just credit card receipts + passport stamps. Do you have any other photos from different days? Chats? Phone call records? Communications with family members?

This gives me so much more ideas on what I can add, thank you so much! I have only met him one time but we have been talking for 6 years prior so i have plenty proof of that. 

7 hours ago, ms_bobdog said:

What did you send with your original petition?

what I send before was some pictures of us together. maybe 4 or 5 and 3 letters written by people who observed the wedding. I sent copies of the marriage certificates and official translated documents. I also sent a copy of the one plane ticket I could find leftover from the trip

Hello all, 

the other day I got an RFE for my i-130 for more proof but im unsure what else i should add.

they are asking for "shared financial obligations" but hes never been here and he cant apply fir taxes, cant create a jointed bank account (he has no ssid) and not any utiity bilss or anything like that. 

I am including things like more photos, some facebook chat screenshots, a few letters I and he have wrote about our experiences and some Facebook posts we have shared over the years, and copies of my receipts of the plane tickets i used when i went there as "courtship" proof.

what else should i include to ensure success?

any info helps, thanks

I am the one applying for my husband. I am born american. 

I was going on the second choice of the expedite. "extreme emergency" 

Hello,

My friend just showed me this wonderful website and  I thought I would ask about an issue I'm having.

I'm trying to get my visa expedited before the i130 is done being processed because I have had a serious injury that prevents me from working for over a year. I'm living off savings right now so I'm okay but that will soon run out and I have no possible way to make any money as I cannot walk and I don't qualify for dialsability. 

I have applied twice and it was denied flat out because lack of proof after 6 days pass

The issue is that they told me I would receive a email with information where I can send the proof but both times I never got such an email. 

Also I applied in september and still have had no updates about my visa status online. Is that normal? I have called several times but the uscis was no help at all either. 

Really any information will be extremely helpful as im on my own trying to figure this out.