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He went at 1:30 yesterday or today?

He got the call yesterday and didn't have time to go back to Casa before they closed. My fiance said that they wouldn't take passports before 1:30pm today so he turned his passport in today and they told him that they will give him a call later today or tomorrow.

WOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I saw you typing down there and I was thinking - I really hope she's typing this very thing! Congratulations!!!!!!!!!

Being busy in your own little world is perfectly fine and understandable. But I think you made a positive contribution, so I hope that you won't be kicking yourself later.

Notice . . . I am not commenting on any of this either . . . reading alot with a lot of digesting going on! I am not a relationship expert by a long shot so I have a lot of work to do myself!

Thank you and I hope it's a contribution! We'll see. The more I study, the more I realize that I have quite a bit of room for improvement too! I think that it will be lifelong.

Beautiful wisdom we can all learn from. Where were you yesterday?

I was too busy in my own little world (getting 'the call') and I completely missed where this thread went. I will probably be kicking myself later and wondering why I didn't just let it pass on by.

The paper is to prove that there hasnt been any criminal court case against him....at least thats what I understand, and it has to be done where you're born. In arabic that paper is called sigill al3adly. Hassan says they asked everybody for this paper except for a woman, and another guy but they told that guy that his security checks would take a month or 2 and she told hassan they take a few days. Hope that helps, still gathering details...which we all know is not the easiest thing dealing with moroccans lol.

Michaela

I'm laughing because I so relate to that!

I just want to throw my two cents in here for what it's worth. I'm sure there will be others coming by shortly to tell me exactly what it's worth. I am including all relationships in all religions.

I am no expert in relationships. I want to make that clear. I have done a lot of research and study into relationships though. I am fascinated with them. As was stated before by another, I too had a horrible marriage that ended in divorce and I wanted to learn from that huge mistake so as to not make the same one again. I had to learn why I ended up in that relationship in the first place.

This is what I have learned and what has made the most sense to me about relationships:

No relationship is perfect.

We attract to us the person that we can learn the most from.

Every person has their own lessons that they need to learn and those lessons are most likely to present themselves in a love relationship.

Some of us have more to learn than others.

Every relationship has its own uniques lessons that present themselves for each partner to learn from.

The most successful relationships are the ones that work through those lessons together and can grow from those lessons.

In every relationship there is give and take.

Every relationship hits a point of a power struggle.

As adults, we very likely repeat familiar relationships that we had when we were younger with our primary care givers. And these relationships end up repeating something painful that we experienced when we were younger in hopes of a different outcome.

Until we have worked through any pain from our past, we will continue to repeat the same pain over and over again until we have learned the lesson that we need to learn.

None of this is apparent on a conscious level. We can't simply choose to say we are going to avoid those lessons/relationships. There is a much deeper drive and attraction to those very situations that cannot be avoided until we have learned that lesson and we won't know completely we've learned the lesson until we enter another relationship or see that those lessons no longer appear in our lives.

To tell one person that their relationship is wrong or bad; you might as well tell them that their DNA is all wrong. It is who they are and no relationship is without it's power struggle. And only the two people in the relationship are the only ones that can work this out among themselves.

So there are 2 options: Either work on yourself before getting into a relationship until you are completely healed from the pain in your past (and everyone has pain-even the most perfect parents and most well-intentioned parents end up hurting their children to some extent); or find a partner who has the capability and wants to grow and is willing to help you grow as well.

As far as religion, no matter what faith you choose, all of them encourage each 'member' to grow to be more accepting, kind and loving to our fellow human beings. And that crosses all lines of religion, culture, ethnicity, etc. to grow to see that every person brings value to another and with each person, a lesson is presented to us if we choose to look at the lesson, instead of judging or criticizing each person and missing the lesson all together.

I don't see any of this as putting on rose-colored glasses. It speaks truth to me.

That's just my two cents.

Good Luck Michaela and Hassan! I was taking a quick peek here at work in case you had heard something very early. I'll try to check back later or ask Abdou; we are both very excited for you two.

Good Luck to Mandixon too!

Doreen

Thanks Everybody for your well wishes and mojo!!...I have some good news, Hassan passed the interview, they told him he has to get one more paper from the court (he said they told everybody to do this) and turn it in and then he'll have the security checks and get his visa once he passes them....dont know any details yet, except he said he interview with the black woman, and I asked him was the blond there and he said yeah and she was nice, and not denying everybody...hmmmmm...weird, so there is hope. I'll try to find out details and post them later!!!

Michaela

hmmmmmmmmm...I wonder why they want another court paper? They seem to come up with new things each week. It sounds like all went well! In a few days I suspect that you will get the call to pick up the visa!!! Congratulations!

Anyone heard from mandixon? Hope all went well there too!

YAYYYYYYYYYYY! That feeling is like nothing else in the world! Can't wait to hear that he has it in hand (is he waiting just like my fiance right now?!).

Can't wait to hear the good news!

sooooooooooooooo..... is it "in hand" now???? we're waiting to hear abt the pick up!

I'm still waiting too! He went at 1:30 pm to give them his passport and they told him and everyone else to wait for their call. They said that they would call either today or tomorrow for him to pick it up.

I couldn't sleep at all and I've called him about 10 times already this morning. I want to be done with Casa!

Casa's new slogan:

Welcome to Casa: Wait for our call.

This is the most wonderful news !!! Is he going tomorrow to pick it up or what ? Congratulations !! I am very happy for you both !!!!

-MK

He had just returned from Casa when he found out. He said, Well I guess I will go back right now and sleep outside until they open in the morning. Whether or not he sleeps outside the door tonight or arrives as soon as the doors open, he is determined that he will have his visa in hand tomorrow.

Excellent news...congratulations.

M4E - I am telling the Visa Gods all the good things that I can possibly think of so that you will have your call very very very soon! It's coming!

I am thinking about all of those still waiting; moody, limah (may you get things turned around very quickly), just waiting and so many others that have been waiting way more than I have and for those that just had their interviews, may you all get your calls very soon and my thoughts are with you all.

OMG!!!! so exciting! what a fabulous way to start your week. so when will he come? any thoughts on flights yet? MABRUKULATIONS!

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can hardly breathe! I'm so excited! His brother has offered to pay for his flight on Air France as a wedding gift (how nice is that?????!!!). My fiance has been so excited about coming that he has been taking care of everything since the interview so he could leave at a moments notice. Once I hear back from him in a while, I will know when he's coming for sure. It may be this week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HE GOT THE CALL FOR THE VISA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HE CAN PICK IT UP ANYTIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm crying and dancing at the same time!

Here is a very unique gift site (not the most well-designed website so you may have to navigate your way through) Berber Sources. A lot of it was not quite my style but some of the things were really neat.

Hoping for some after Thanksgiving good news, huh? Let's hope they have good news on Friday!

Amen sister!

(I was just on hold for 30 min. with the DOS and got cut off (conveniently at the time that they closed)! I'll be on the phone bright and early in the morning!)

How many times do you call a day? I have called a many times but always feel like they are irritated by the calls. I don't however call them daily, I called yesterday after waiting 2 weeks. What do you ask them when you call?

I have called 4 times now. The first time was to find out if his file was there (it wasn't after 8 days). The next time to find out if the file was there again (after calling Casa and asking what is up). I called on Monday to find out if the checks were underway (they were). I called this morning to see if there was any progress (he made it through the first check and was undergoing the second). Then I tried to call before they closed today to find out if the second check was complete. If the computer finds a name hit after this check, then it will be 3-4 months of extra processing. That's why I really want to know!

The ladies I spoke with have all been very kind; have taken the time to search through the file and check things further on the computer to give me all of the information possible; and they've always told me to call back and good luck.

Hoping for some after Thanksgiving good news, huh? Let's hope they have good news on Friday!

Amen sister!

(I was just on hold for 30 min. with the DOS and got cut off (conveniently at the time that they closed)! I'll be on the phone bright and early in the morning!)

Ok I found the number and finally got ahold of visa specialist. They told me that DC already received the request and they have already begun processing it. That was fast, thank God! I KNEW Casa would want to clear their desks before the holiday!! woo-hoo!

Good! I'm glad you were able to find the number. I was away from the computer for a while so I didn't see your messages until now. I'm glad that they have begun the process! It's nice to have some idea of what is going on.

Casa is closed on Thursday but they are open on Friday.

I'm going to call DOS again in about an hour to see if we've cleared yet or what progress has been made.

Hopefully, you will have the clearance today or tomorrow!

I'm not sure about all of the steps that a file goes through once the case is assigned to go through security checks. However, I believe that our file was finally sent last Friday to D.C. I called DOS on Monday and they said that the security checks were just starting.

I called again this morning and they said he is going through the 2nd part of the security checks and depending on what the computer says after this one is completed, either he will be cleared or he may have to go through the 3rd part of security checks which takes 3-4 months. She said there is no way to tell if that will happen or not at this point. She said the file looked good, as far as the relationship, and everything is going along as normal.

Both times I called, the ladies I spoke with were very helpful and seemed to want to give all of the information they could to me. They even told me to keep calling back and wished me good luck!

I only have my ears pierced (twice but I wear only one pair now) and no tattoos. I thought about getting a tattoo at one time, but felt that I may regret it later. My fiance loves the fact that I don't drink, smoke, have more piercings than I do and have no tattoos. I give credit to the religion I converted to 2 years ago which encourages all women and men to all of the above (no piercings for men!).

It is incredible how much Islam and the church I belong to have so many of the same principles. My fiance and I feel like we grew up with the same beliefs.

I was trying to stay away but it's like a freakin' train wreck. You don't wanna look but ya just can't help it!!!

It is a freakin' train wreck. I keep thinking that it can't get any worse. Then, before I know it, wallah, it's brought to an all new low.

Oh my goodness I hope that everything works out. I wonder why they think it's unrelated? Sometimes something like that can throw things off kilter just enough to make your back hurt.....and lower back pain sucks...I can relate!!!!!

I have no idea why they think it's unrelated. If that's the case, I've got 3 problems coincidently going on at the same time. Weird. I just wish the doc would have given me some pain pills though. Thankfully I can take it easier now that the kids went to grandma's for the night.

BTW, welcome back! All week I've been wondering, where's doodlebug? I missed seeing your coffee cup!

I apologize if I missed you mentioning you were going to be away. Or maybe you were smart and stayed away from the VJ ME/NA Freak Show.

Jenn it wouldn't hurt to call your doctor, tell him/her that you were in an accident and mention your headache. You might want to get an mri done just to make sure verything is ok.

Jenn, I hope you will feel better soon. I think it would also be a good idea to call your Dr. as doodlebug mentioned.

I have felt under-the-weather myself. Went to the doctor today and I ended up being there for over 5 hours. I never have back pain but for the last 2-3 weeks my lower back has been killing me. Then when my abdomen started hurting for the past 2-3 days I decided I'd better have it checked out.

Still no definitive answer and I have to return next week but from the CT they did today, they unexpectedly found a 5cm ovarian cyst that they think is unrelated to the pain I've been having.

It's probably all related to stress from this rollercoaster visa process. When's it going to end?????

This was in my inbox this morning (in responding to an email I sent) and after my phone call to Casa yesterday:

Dear Madam:

Thank you for your e-mail inquiry. Please be advised that Mr. ____ was re-interviewed on November 16, 2006 and was informed that his application will need to undergo further administrative processing. We will make sure to contact him as soon as his case is completed.

Regards,

IV Unit

kc

Re-interviewed????????? He hasn't been there since Nov. 7th. I called yesterday and they told me about the AP. I guess my call was the considered as him interviewing again. What goes on at this place?

what i find most troubling is the "feeding frenzy" mentality that occurs in mena. all of you are essentially in the same boat in one way or another. yet when someone shows weakness..........it's piranha time .

It's survival of the fittest. There are so many examples of this in nearly all species of animals. What is most disturbing is that while humans are of the highest intellect, they are the only 'animal' that chooses to kill their own. VJ is a good example.

I agree moody. I'm sure that there are a lot of people with a lot of great things to share and that could add to the variety of opinions that all could benefit from, but they choose to keep it to themselves because they are afraid of the horrendous bashing that may take place by one little word or phrase that might set off a series of degrading and humiliating comments by those few people that choose to do such things. When I post something, sometimes I think, oh boy, I wonder what I said that could set one of these people off. I've been truly impressed by a lot of other members from just the few words that they've posted. I wish they would post more. I want to hear their opinions. Are they thinking the same thing I'm thinking and choosing not to post more because of the risk of being shred to pieces? What a shame if that is true.

Just today, I was considering posting here about something that is bothering me and is probably bothering others too, or some have been thru it. It would be nice to find objective input to discuss the problems and strains that are brought on by this process; family and friends are rarely objective. But, when you ask for support, you don't want to be judged and have doubt added to your malaise. That may be putting on blinders, but sometimes that's just what you need. The blinders, if they exist, will come off when you're ready for them to come off, and not a moment before.

Exactly.