Vintat

I just posted this not too long ago but it looks it got lost when the threads were merged so I'm posting again.. Sorry if it pops up elsewhere..
 
Let me preface my upcoming statements by saying this: I AM NOT in favor of anyone trying to enter and/or stay illegally into our country at this point but for those already here, especially the DACA folks, who have been law-abiding, paid their taxes and in general have been contributing positively to our society, I believe a path to legal status should be made available to them.   
 
The US has historically allowed Legal Immigrants to petition for their relatives, because they recognized that it is far better for a families' emotional, psychological and mental well being, for them to be re-united than to remain separated. So the question then becomes, what kind and how much of a detrimental effect has Family Based Immigration (FBI) had/is having on our country and, relative to other factors not related to Immigration, what percentage of blame could reasonably be assigned to FBI for the woes that our country is in?
 
I don't think that most immigrants that come to the US, legally or illegally, come here with the mindset of living off the system. They come here to work, 2 or 3 jobs if they have to, in order to support their family in the US or back in their homeland. Also the vast majority of immigrants, legal or illegal, do not commit crimes and for those who do, I dont believe that its at a rate any higher than that of the general "native" population. In fact, if I had to bet the farm, I would say the rate is probably less..
 
The US historically admits roughly 1million LEGAL immigrants each year, 45% of which are new arrivals to the country and the rest 55% are those that are already in the country that are upgraded to Permanent Residents. That represents just 0.3% of our US population of 327,000,000!  
 
I'm not saying there isn't fraud, and that their isn't a problem with the system that needs to be fixed, but I don't believe that the level of concern by some good folks over the magnitude of the negative impact of LEGAL Immigration matches the reality of the situation.

Do you really believe that most immigrants come here to live off the system?
 
Also when you say "it feels like", can you accept that that position may be more emotional, than rational? Who exactly is advocating "that people shouldn't have to work hard to achieve what they want"?

Do you really believe that most immigrants come here to live off the system?
 
Also when you say "it feels like", can you accept that that position may be more emotional, than rational? Who exactly is advocating "that people shouldn't have to work hard to achieve what they want"?

Do you really believe that most immigrants come here to live off the system?
 
Also when you say "it feels like", can you accept that that position may be more emotional, than rational? Who exactly is advocating "that people shouldn't have to work hard to achieve what they want"?

I think @bolin786 is missing the real point of concern that most people have with regards to the 1 year extension. 
 
It matters not if you have correctly interpreted the expiry date based on the wording of the letter. What matters most is the grief you will experience, if someone who holds your fate in his/her hands does not agree with your interpretation of it. 

If you want to undergo an exercise in frustration; try convincing the person at the DMV that the expiry date of the extension is 1 year from the issue date of the actual GC when he has already made up his mind that rather, it is 1 year from the issuance of the NOA 1 letter. (been there, done that, got the t-shirt). 
 
Something being ambiguous doesn't mean that you can't read it and not figure out the correct interpretation the first time. Indeed you can, but if it is ambiguous, another person can read that exact same item and get a different interpretation of it. 
 
The fact that there seems to be widespread disagreement/uncertainty about this issue, by definition highlights its ambiguity....

I think @bolin786 is missing the real point of concern that most people have with regards to the 1 year extension. 
 
It matters not if you have correctly interpreted the expiry date based on the wording of the letter. What matters most is the grief you will experience, if someone who holds your fate in his/her hands does not agree with your interpretation of it. 

If you want to undergo an exercise in frustration; try convincing the person at the DMV that the expiry date of the extension is 1 year from the issue date of the actual GC when he has already made up his mind that rather, it is 1 year from the issuance of the NOA 1 letter. (been there, done that, got the t-shirt). 
 
Something being ambiguous doesn't mean that you can't read it and not figure out the correct interpretation the first time. Indeed you can, but if it is ambiguous, another person can read that exact same item and get a different interpretation of it. 
 
The fact that there seems to be widespread disagreement/uncertainty about this issue, by definition highlights its ambiguity....

I agree Mollie 09...
 
How many times have we written a text, letter or an email and having proof-read it, had to revise a sentence or two, because we realized that it could be left open to misinterpretation?
 
I learnt very early in my English Language and Literature classes that the English language at times can be vague and ambiguous, and has been the source of many disputes with respect to contracts, written statements, testimonies, etc. 
 
After all, remember, "Let's eat grandma" has a very different meaning from "Let's eat, grandma"
 
We are all on this board to help each other out and my suggestion to us all is that if we can't respond to a poster without putting them down, it might be a good idea not to respond at all. 
 
I applaud @neilsqueen.