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That would be fine, then. Make sure you make copies (from a store print shop) of the pictures and then send them in. The pics you send in you WILL NOT get back!

I'll be using picasa and printing it out 4 to a sheet...i could probably do 6 but im afraid it might be too small. lol

That idea sounds pretty artificial, unless you are a photojournalist and have documented everything in your life...

If not, it's very contrived.

does a scrapbooker count???

its one of my hobbies...

Simple: He loves you or the Green Card? Only time will tell.

His life in VN is actually pretty well off compared to most people.

I dont think he's willing to put up with my bs for just a green card

Is it a good idea to have at least one picture with each of my items listed on my timeline???

i havent sent mine yet but im sure mine is headed to VSC...this is worrying me now hope you hear from them soon!

Correct! Multiple copies were previously required, but the policy changed some time ago. Just 1 for you and 1 for your fiance!

Thank you much

Just sent the Mr. the G-325A form and supplement for it.

Does he have to fill out the applicant name part? or is that only used if Alien # is applicable?

Its the bold box at the bottom of the page...

thank you for your advice

trust me im not taking any chances of having him not be with me in the US ASAP. lol

well...i was introduced to him by his uncle...I live in a city where it's a moderate size Vietnamese community where most Vietnamese people know one another because we shop/eat at the same locations. Red flag would probably show up, but I can't help it if I live in a community like that. lol

Of course I'm sure that's where my "how we met" supplement would go into details to clarify my relationship with his family prior to our relationship.

thank you.

I did read the guides...thats why im kind of confused still...lol

so i send in one copy of the G-325A for me/signed and then send in one for my fiance/signed...

one copy of supplement for each IF applicable...

no multiple copies, correct?

Upon doing a search on the G-325A biographical information form, past posts states that there were multiple copies sent...is that true?

Also, I need to know if my fiance will need to fill out the heavy bolded line box with his family name, middle name, and first name as well as Alien Number...I don't believe he has one so I'm kind of confused.

Im under the impression that I send in one G-325A form for each of us and then a supplement form if necessary for each of us.

Or should I be sending in more than one copy?

It's only a few weeks away! Good luck!

Is that an unusual long period to be interviewed in HCMC?

She has never been married and as mention, I did not tell her that I was married when I met her so she didn't know. I actually didn't file for divorce until I came back to the US and that's when I told her that I was married. Yes, it would have been better if I had filed for divorce before I left for Vietnam, but I had no plans in getting involved with anyone and I needed some time away from my ex before I made a decision on the marriage.

It does seem like we are rushing things because she doesn't want us to be apart longer then we have too. She has been in long distance relationships before and not meeting a person for over a year was too much for her that she broke it off even though the guy was willing to marry her. To her, that was time lost. She's 27 (I'm 36) so that is getting to the point where Vietnamese women start feeling that they won't be desirable as a wife anymore. She's afraid that if she waits another year or two, I would lose interest and find someone else. That would be time lost for her and it will be harder for her to find a husband. She said if she was younger, then she wouldn't mind waiting. But the Vietnamese mindset is a man can always find a wife no matter how old he is, but that's not true for a woman to find a husband.

Im not an expert in this but if you feel that you are rushing it than you probably are... She's 27, she's still young...you have to let her see that. Show her that you do care for her and so on and so forth. If she truly cares for you and for ya'lls relationship than knowing that the time between previous and current can be a red flag. If you have enough evidence to back it up all and go forth than do so...also keep in mind the chance that if it is rushed and you guys are unprepared than it could backfire...if she wants to come over later on she may be blackballed and not able to do so.

Listen to your heart...seems like you already know what issues may arise...if you can jump over those hurdles than do it Best of luck to you

Congrats

I bet your hubby is excited!

You may want to take any pictures that show you may be married off the internet. It is standard protocol to do a social network/internet search on people for many companies. I know of several companies who pay a service to do the research. Don't be surprise if the US government does it too for prospective K-1 visa applicants and the petitioners. A consular officer could pulls your wedding dress picture out of the internet to deny the K-1 visa based on marriage based on a professional internet background search. You don't want to get into this mess. Remove any wedding type pictures from the internet. There is no reason to give the US Embassy any ammunition like a picture of you in a wedding dress to deny the K-1 visa.

Thank you for your advice...I've removed the pictures but just out of curiosity, would they be able to deny that even if looking into the court records and so forth and see that I have never signed a marriage certificate? I would sure hope that's not the case when the consular officer denies a visa because of a mere picture without any certified evidence. If you see a "wedding" picture AND marriage certificate, sure...My engagement pictures look like wedding pictures...the only way you would know if it was engagement was seeing the "Le Dinh Hon" on the decorations...

congratulations!!!

We are not married. we took advantage of the photography package that was available. I initially wanted just engagement pictures but since his friend actually owned the studio, he threw in the wedding ensemble too. Figure later on when we get married our album can serve as our guestbook

I am aware, do not show any of the wedding pictures during the interview. I have pictures with me in engagement dresses so those would be included since it's also apart of my timeline.

Do I submit the quit claim for my my fiance's daughter with the I-129f or does my fiance need to when he goes to the interview?

Whenever it's needed I'm assuming that both the English version and the Vietnamese version of the quit claim would need to be signed and notarized/certified right?

Sorry to jump on...so basically "we met on xx date in vietnam. see supplement" would suffice right??? and then of course on supplement go into details of how we were introduced and when we met.

from your screen name i take it you're a woman and petitioning your vietnamese male fiance? that in itself is not the norm, not sure if it's a red flag.

i dont think that would be more a red flag than the norm. I know of some cases where fiancee sponsors fiance

Just write the date and place you've 1st met, date and how many trips and when you got engaged.

Good luck on your journey.

I've only taken a month long trip to VN...of course we spoke and had skyped prior (as stated).

So "I took my first trip to Vietnam on October 23, 2012. I met Bao and his daughter at Tan Son Nhat Airport. We got engaged on October 28, 2012."

It may be me, but just that statement alone screams red flag

Should I add "see supplement" and include my detailed/condensed timeline???

Correct, the initial I-129F petition filing is to show that the petitioner and beneficiary have a genuine and ongoing relationship. through meeting the visa requirements, filing the petition and providing necessary/requisite evidence.

Here is an example of the notarized "Parental Custody Certificate" that we were able to use to obtain permission from the father and provided to the interviewing consulate in Guangzhou:

STATEMENT

Date:

Dear Sir or Madam:

I, <father's name> (<Date of Birth> <ID #>), father of <child's name> (<Date of Birth> <ID #>). His mother and I were married <date> and divorced <date>. <child's name> has lived with his mother since the divorce. Please accept this statement as my authorization for my child, <child's name>, to join his mother and immigrate to the United States.

Sincerely,

<father's signature>

<father's printed name>

(The notary statement/information is then included here.)

For our purposes in China, we had this document prepared in "White Book" format, refer to this link for more information about contents of Chinese "White Book(s)." Please use this as a guide only. Requirements may be different for your situation. Please check with your intended interviewing embassy/consulate, and regional forum here for more specific requirements (including translation).

Good luck on your visa journey.

In VN they require a quit claim. So I'll be looking into that too.

Thank you for your well wishes

I would leave out the part about the wedding pictures and also not include them. While it might be a cultural norm elsewhere, some person sitting in an office in America is going to think it is odd to take the wedding photos so long before the actual wedding and might become suspicious that you are already married.

Else than that, it looks great.

I can remove the wedding part. It was actually engagement pictures but because of the book we get with it and "package" they allowed me to have a wedding dress too. Which in truth I wouldnt mind that being the wedding pictures cause photographers here in the states are expensive!

If all this is for the "how we met part" in your application, it is way too long and I doubt anyone will read it all. As an example I said .."we met in Bulgaria in 2007, I made 4 trips during 2008 and 2009. We became engaged in June, 2009". That was it.

Agree. Stay away from anything that even remotely looks like a wedding photo. This is for a fiancee visa, not spousal.

This could be for the "how we met" but its more for the relationship timeline that so many people who go through the HCMC consulate get RFE on...It could work for both...I understand the wedding photo part. Totally understandable.

So basically for question 18 B i could say "We were introduced by his uncle in July 2012. Contacted one another with phone calls, text messages, online chats, and skype. I flew to VN in October 23, 2012 and we got engaged on October 28, 2012."

I figured I could submit the "long" one with the petition and on the day of interview my fiance would have both. They can look at the short one for quick reference.

You forgot to put when you lost your first tooth!

lol. Just kidding. Wow! You're detailed!

I read that a lot of people got RFE because of this. I guess better safe than sorry...

and I'm aware I need to have it notarized...lol

But thanks to everyone who posted their timelines...it helped guide me a lot

Any advice would be greatly appreciated I'm hoping this isnt overkill...

Not sure if I should send this with I-129F or wait till interview for this detailed timeline, but I've also got a condensed version of specifics too. I wrote it with both Vietnamese and English so my fiance can look over it to make sure I didn't forget anything. When I turn it in, only the English would be on it...

I, Khe Tieu Nguyen, a citizen of the United States am the fiancé of Bao Dinh Dang. The following is a sworn affidavit documenting the timeline of our relationship starting from July 2012 to present.

July 2012 – I went to drop of some clothes at Deluxe Cleaners where my sister-in-law is employed. I saw Bao’s uncle and we chatted and normally I call him “Anh” but that particular day I joked with him about his age and made a remark that I should start calling him “Chu” (uncle) since he’s getting older. He told me that if I wanted to call him “Chu” he has a nephew that he can introduce me to and thus started our journey.

July 07, 2012 – Bao and I talked for the first time. He called me 3 times before I had answered the phone. I had just spent the previous night helping a friend move into an apartment and was still sleeping when he called the first two times. Our conversation was very cordial. We introduced ourselves and talked about our day and his phone ran out of money. He called me the next day after he reloaded his phone to apologize and we exchanged our online information and started to contact one another online to minimize expensive phone costs.

July 09, 2012 – We Skyped for the first time and from there everything just fell into place for us. Over the next couple of months we talked and got to know one another through emails, phone calls, text messages, yahoo messenger chats, and skyping. Slowly we started falling for each other and wanted to take our relationship to the next level, but not until we had our parents approval.

September 09, 2012 – My parents invited Bao’s family to my sister-in-laws for my dad and nephew’s first birthday. Bao’s parents and uncle’s (the one who introduced us) family came to the celebration. His parents asked my parents that day and we received both their blessings.

September 18, 2012 – My birthday. I received a text at midnight wishing me a happy birthday and an email containing a picture of a cake and flowers from Bao. Mom surprised me with tickets to Vietnam in late October! She actually purchased them a month earlier but didn’t want to ruin the surprise so she waited for my birthday to give it to me. I informed Bao and we made plans with his parents the following week to make plans for us to meet and have our dam hoi (engagement party).

September 23, 2012 – I met Bao’s aunts and uncles who reside in Louisiana. We began determining when his parents could come to Vietnam and what needed to be done for the engagement. We decided to have the engagement on October 28, 2012.

For the next month we continued or usual means of communication.

October 23, 2012 – My parents, daughter, and I made it to Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam. I met Bao and his daughter, Han, for the first time.

October 24 – 27, 2012 – We finished with any last minute preparations for the engagement (last minute guests, ao dai rental, and setting up the engagement decorations at the house). We also prepared for his parents arrival on the 25th and then his uncle’s arrival on the 27th.

October 28, 2012 – The day has arrived! Engagement party!!!

October 29 – 30, 2012 – We spent time with his family in Saigon.

October 31 – November 02, 2012 – We went to Can Tho, Ca Mau, Ba Lieu, and Soc Trang with his family. We had lunch with both families in Can Tho. After lunch, Bao and his family left for HCMC. I stayed to celebrate mom’s birthday.

November 03, 2012 – My mom’s birthday!

November 04 – 09, 2012 – My aunt and I went to HCMC. I met back up with Bao and spent more time with his family before they left on November 07, 2012. We stayed in HCMC and on November 09 met with my cousin Tony (from California) for lunch. We went to Hai Au to meet his friends for dinner. After dinner we took Phuong Tran back to Can Tho.

November 10, 2012 – We had dinner at Alo 100 in Can Tho.

November 11 – 13, 2012 – We spent time with family in Can Tho. Visited temple where my grandparents are resting.

November 14 – 16, 2012 – Traveled with family to Chua Co Thach and Mui Ne. Returned to HCMC.

November 17, 2012 – Spent time in HCMC.

November 18 – 19, 2012 – We picked out outfits for our engagement/wedding pictures and had our pictures taken at Binh Quoi.

November 20 – 23, 2012 – We did some last minute shopping and spent time with family.

November 24, 2012 – Flew back to the states.

The first few months of conversation were just the beginning for us. Once I met Bao and his daughter, I knew that I made the right decision in having him apart of my life. The month we spent together could not prepare me for the hurt and sorrow I am currently feeling that we are no longer by one another. Not only did I fall in love with Bao, but my four-year-old daughter, Serenity, also made a connection with her “Ba Bao.” We are both looking forward to the day that my fiancé and stepdaughter are able to us and our new found family together again.

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Relationship Timeline

• July 07, 2012

Lan dau tien noi chuyen voi nau.

First time talking to one another.

• July 09, 2012

Lan dau tien noi chuyen tren Skype.

First time talking to each other on Skype.

• September 09, 2012

Ba Me Bao qua hoi cuoi.

Bao’s family came to ask my parents for my hand in marriage.

• September 23, 2012

Ba Me em qua nha Ba cua Bao tin chuyen voi dinh hon.

My parents went to Bao’s family to discuss plans for our engagement.

• October 23, 2012

Bay ve Vietnam, lan dau tien gap mat nao.

Flew back to Vietnam, first time meeting in person.

• October 24-27, 2012

Sua song cho Le Dinh Hon.

Last minute preparations for the engagement.

• October 28, 2012

Ngay Le Dinh Hon.

Engagement Party

• October 29-30, 2012

Di choi voi gia dinh Bao o Saigon.

Spent time with Bao’s family in Saigon

• October 31 - November 02, 2012

Di Ca Mau, Bac Lieu, & Soc Trang voi gia dinh cua Bao. Di Du Tuyen voi ca hai gia dinh.

Went to Ca Mau, Bac Lieu, & Soc Trang with Bao’s family. Went to Du Tuyen with both families.

• November 03, 2012

Sinh nhat cua Me.

Celebrated mom’s birthday in Can Tho.

• November 4 – 09, 2012

Ve Saigon. Di choi o Saigon voi gia dinh Bao. Gap Anh Hieu. Ve Can Tho.

Came back to Saigon and spent time with Bao’s family. Bao’s family left on November 07, 2012. Bao met my cousin Anh Hieu. Left Saigon to go back to Can Tho.

• November 10, 2012

An o Alo 100, Can Tho

Dinner at Alo 100 in Can Tho

• November 11 - 13, 2012

Di choi voi gia dinh o Can Tho. Tam mo Ong Ngoai va Ba Ngoai o chua.

Spent time with family in Can Tho. Visited temple where grandparents are resting.

• November 14 – 16, 2012

Di choi o Phan Tri, Mui Ne, va Chua Co Thach. Tro ve Saigon.

Traveled and spent time in Phan Tri, Mui Ne, and Chua Co Thach. Returned to Saigon.

• November 18, 2012

Di lu do de di chup hinh.

Picked outfits for the pictures.

• November 19, 2012

Di chup hinh o Binh Quoi.

Took engagement and wedding pictures at Binh Quoi.

• November 20 – 23, 2012

Di choi va choi voi gia dinh truoc khi ve My.

Last minute shopping and spent time with family before leaving.

• November 24, 2012

Di ve My

Flew back to the States.

thats a relief! thank you!!!