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I got the pizza ...

and i got $20 on lisa! :thumbs:

only a $20 ?

i figure no one else would go for a larger bet :blush:

I was hoping we could get at least get someone to buy us a good pizza and a pitcher or beer ...

Here you go, boys:

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ty :thumbs:

hey let's all head over to gary's, he's got a large tv and football :dance:

I'm there :thumbs:

Will Gary let me in, though? After all, I am a Democrat :)

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Seems to me the "provocation" was Sarah sitting down when two students refused to allow her to do so....

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Bet they don't get charged with a hate crime......................if the tables were reversed, I can hear Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson now.......... :wacko:

People of color are rarely charged with a hate crime.

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Found this update:

Bus beating update:

The perps were released yesterday and are now back on the street. Super.

The mother of one of the suspects says the victim, shown left, provoked the attack by spitting in the face of one of the girls.

Reports are still conflicting as to where the attack took place, with the Sun reporting E 33rd in Waverly and the Examiner and other sources reporting W 33rd in Hampden.

The E also reports the race of the suspects.

And, for what it's worth, as "Marc" points out, the victim is "no stranger to the legal system," with a rap sheet that includes arrests for forging prescriptions, domestic violence and assault.

http://baltimorecrime.blogspot.com/

Now, given that all but one of the kids arrested had no prior police record, I'd say that this is more than a woman simply trying to sit down and then being beaten by a gang of Black juveniles. It'll be interesting to see how this unfolds.

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It's disturbingly funny to see all the right nutwing blogs all over this story with their preconceived assumptions of guilt towards the black students attacking a white woman. That to me is the real story here.

Here's just one....

I’m just a little pissed off here…how much do you want to bet? How much you wanna F#CKING bet we hear nothing of this by Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson or the Black Panthers on any of this sh!t…I thought they were all for letting women get seats on buses without persecution or discrimination?

F#cking pukes. Let me be the first to call these scumbags “The Baltimore 9″…you ain’t heard the last of this sh!t. -Bash

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Bet they don't get charged with a hate crime......................if the tables were reversed, I can hear Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson now.......... :wacko:

Indeed, but those ignorant fucks will be nowhere to be found when it's a white victim.

Anyway, not altogether shocking, especially in Baltimore. Also not shocking the kids are already released to their parents. Doubt they'll serve any time.

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Found this update:

Bus beating update:

The perps were released yesterday and are now back on the street. Super.

The mother of one of the suspects says the victim, shown left, provoked the attack by spitting in the face of one of the girls.

Reports are still conflicting as to where the attack took place, with the Sun reporting E 33rd in Waverly and the Examiner and other sources reporting W 33rd in Hampden.

The E also reports the race of the suspects.

And, for what it's worth, as "Marc" points out, the victim is "no stranger to the legal system," with a rap sheet that includes arrests for forging prescriptions, domestic violence and assault.

http://baltimorecrime.blogspot.com/

Now, given that all but one of the kids arrested had no prior police record, I'd say that this is more than a woman simply trying to sit down and then being beaten by a gang of Black juveniles. It'll be interesting to see how this unfolds.

Point taken, there probably is a lot more to this story...they probably weren't complete victims, I guess it will all unfold eventually.

Former statement about Jackson and Sharpton being ignorant fucks still stands though :P

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From Steven's link: (thx S!)

Bus-attack victim Sarah Kreager was interviewed by Fox's Karen Parks. (Unfortunately the audio is cut off in the last few seconds)

Transit police support Kreager's claim that the attack was unprovoked, and police say that at the time the incident reports were taken, no witness reported any spitting or knife being pulled. The MTA spokesman says that there's surveillance video of the rolling hellhole, and that they are investigating "the incident" as a racially motivated hate crime.

In other teenager news, a 41-year-old woman was pelted with snowballs and robbed near Hopkins Hospital, and six more violent street robberies in the Blotter.

QTD: "Crime is like gymnastics. It really is a young person’s sport. If you incapacitate a 15- or 16-year-old for a year, you can prevent more crime than if you imprison a 22-year-old for life." -- FL State Attorney Harry Shorstein

http://baltimorecrime.blogspot.com/

Even if this victim is no stranger to the system, that does nothing to mitigate the atrocity that happened to her this time.

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Maryland Transit Administration Police said last night that they have found no evidence that the severe beating of a 26-year-old woman on a city bus this week was provoked and that they are investigating the attack as a possible racially motivated hate crime.

Nine middle school students have been charged as juveniles with aggravated assault and destruction of property in the Tuesday afternoon attack on a woman and her male companion on the No. 27 bus.

Police said yesterday that they have determined that there were two additional victims in the case - a third passenger and the bus operator who came to his assistance.

Investigators were examining video from a surveillance camera on the bus but had not completed their analysis.

Despite the beating incident, one of several recent high- profile crimes to take place on or near MTA property, police insisted yesterday that it is safe to use mass transit in Baltimore - pointing to a crime rate they estimate at one per 183,000 riders.

"It's a very safe system," said Col. John Gavrilis, deputy chief of the MTA Police.

MTA Northern District Capt. David Marzola said yesterday that the suspects could face additional charges after the emergence of new information about the attack, which occurred about 3 p.m. Tuesday in the 800 block of West 33rd Street.

Jawauna Greene, an MTA spokeswoman, confirmed that investigators were considering racial hostility as a potential motivation for the assault, which left the female victim, Sarah Kreager, 26, with broken facial bones and other injuries after she was punched, kicked and dragged off the bus. Her male companion, Troy Ellis, was also beaten, but not as severely.

"We are at this point investigating it as a hate crime," Greene said.

Greene said the suspects, who have been released to their parents, are African-American while the two originally identified victims are white. Marzola said the suspects are also believed to have menaced an elderly passenger, who is white, and to have assaulted the bus operator, an African-American male who defended his passenger.

"He probably saved this gentleman's life," Marzola said of the operator. The MTA declined to identify the driver, saying they consider him a witness to a crime.

Police said no evidence had been found to back up the claims of suspects' parents that Kreager or Ellis had provoked the incident by spitting or displaying a knife.

Greene said that at the time the incident reports were taken, no child reported any spitting or knife being pulled. Gavrilis said the operator hadn't mentioned any provocation.....

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/bal...-iraq-headlines

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Maryland Transit Administration Police said last night that they have found no evidence that the severe beating of a 26-year-old woman on a city bus this week was provoked and that they are investigating the attack as a possible racially motivated hate crime.

Nine middle school students have been charged as juveniles with aggravated assault and destruction of property in the Tuesday afternoon attack on a woman and her male companion on the No. 27 bus.

Police said yesterday that they have determined that there were two additional victims in the case - a third passenger and the bus operator who came to his assistance.

Investigators were examining video from a surveillance camera on the bus but had not completed their analysis.

Despite the beating incident, one of several recent high- profile crimes to take place on or near MTA property, police insisted yesterday that it is safe to use mass transit in Baltimore - pointing to a crime rate they estimate at one per 183,000 riders.

"It's a very safe system," said Col. John Gavrilis, deputy chief of the MTA Police.

MTA Northern District Capt. David Marzola said yesterday that the suspects could face additional charges after the emergence of new information about the attack, which occurred about 3 p.m. Tuesday in the 800 block of West 33rd Street.

Jawauna Greene, an MTA spokeswoman, confirmed that investigators were considering racial hostility as a potential motivation for the assault, which left the female victim, Sarah Kreager, 26, with broken facial bones and other injuries after she was punched, kicked and dragged off the bus. Her male companion, Troy Ellis, was also beaten, but not as severely.

"We are at this point investigating it as a hate crime," Greene said.

Greene said the suspects, who have been released to their parents, are African-American while the two originally identified victims are white. Marzola said the suspects are also believed to have menaced an elderly passenger, who is white, and to have assaulted the bus operator, an African-American male who defended his passenger.

"He probably saved this gentleman's life," Marzola said of the operator. The MTA declined to identify the driver, saying they consider him a witness to a crime.

Police said no evidence had been found to back up the claims of suspects' parents that Kreager or Ellis had provoked the incident by spitting or displaying a knife.

Greene said that at the time the incident reports were taken, no child reported any spitting or knife being pulled. Gavrilis said the operator hadn't mentioned any provocation.....

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/bal...-iraq-headlines

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Even if this victim is no stranger to the system, that does nothing to mitigate the atrocity that happened to her this time.

but lisa, a liberal's gotta try! :P

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Even if this victim is no stranger to the system, that does nothing to mitigate the atrocity that happened to her this time.

but lisa, a liberal's gotta try! :P

Is the old adage, "innocent until proven guilty" a liberal notion?

Edit: I'd hate to have some of you as jurors.

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Even if this victim is no stranger to the system, that does nothing to mitigate the atrocity that happened to her this time.

but lisa, a liberal's gotta try! :P

Is the old adage, "innocent until proven guilty" a liberal notion?

Edit: I'd hate to have some of you as jurors.

my military background usually gets me dismissed as a juror anyways :unsure:

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