What If Mexico Was “White”?

[Marilyn. 340]

geez, I am tired of these stupid labels...... pro-illegals, anti-illegals etc.....

just because people don't agree with shipping all the illegals out of America doesn't mean we are pro-illegal

I don't think it is right for people to come here illegally... and I think most of us would agree with that.... how does that make us pro-illegals??

[natty bumppo 297]

ha.. nice try.. but nope, I'm not a rat.. I prefer them to stay knowing that people like you don't get sleep because 'they are here illegaly'.. illegal immigration is not part of my daily life, I have better things to do, than being nosy on people

It's not about being a rat.

I sleep very well thank you ... and when/if I've discovered someone and reported them ... I've done right by this country and can sleep.

If they are sent back to wherever and their family is broken ... too bad. They should not have been here.

Dude ... imigration is a huge part of your life. You are here legally ... yes ?

yes, i'm legally, and I just care about my family and myself.. I don't care about that 'greater good' 'sovereignity' 'law abiding'... I came to the USA, and not my wife to Mexico, to have a better life, for me and now my son... and that's it.. I can give a rats @rse what everybody else does.. I have my green card, I can work and feed my family, that's all it matters, if 10000 people wanna do it in another fashion, I don't care...

this is where we are different ... selfish vs. greater good

it is obvious you are selfish and my brother pedroh is for the greater good of humanity

with a comment like "I can give a rats @rse what everybody else does .. I have my green card, I can work and feed my family, that's all it matters, if 10000 people wanna do it in another fashion, I don't care..."

True colors show ... self serving

firstof all natty..i am an american..and i am also a member of the human race and believe all humans have self worth...regardless of where they come from or ended up ..or their current station in life...

but, if you feel your well if the best..then it is your opinion..and i live my life and do what i feel is best ..

So ... I am an American too ... This was stated why ?

Hedonistic attitude ??

he·don·ist /ˈhidnɪst/

–noun

1. a person whose life is devoted to the pursuit of pleasure and self-gratification.

–adjective

2. Also, he·don·is·tic. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of a hedonist or hedonism.

Edited November 15, 2007 by Natty Bumppo

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Your choices will be Giuliani or Clinton. Good luck.

Yeah no kidding. And to think we don't technically choose these people either - just pick from a menu. A menu that someone else writes.

I'm partially teasing, Gary. I actually think the Republican nomination is still up for grabs. Obama could unseat Clinton but not likely.

Gotcha - I definitely don't want Hillary, but none of the other candidates really stand out to me. Obama's too much of an unknown quantity and Paul is unelectable by a core portion of the Republican electorate. I honestly don't see anyone I'm particularly crazy about.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

ha.. nice try.. but nope, I'm not a rat.. I prefer them to stay knowing that people like you don't get sleep because 'they are here illegaly'.. illegal immigration is not part of my daily life, I have better things to do, than being nosy on people

It's not about being a rat.

I sleep very well thank you ... and when/if I've discovered someone and reported them ... I've done right by this country and can sleep.

If they are sent back to wherever and their family is broken ... too bad. They should not have been here.

Dude ... imigration is a huge part of your life. You are here legally ... yes ?

yes, i'm legally, and I just care about my family and myself.. I don't care about that 'greater good' 'sovereignity' 'law abiding'... I came to the USA, and not my wife to Mexico, to have a better life, for me and now my son... and that's it.. I can give a rats @rse what everybody else does.. I have my green card, I can work and feed my family, that's all it matters, if 10000 people wanna do it in another fashion, I don't care...

this is where we are different ... selfish vs. greater good

it is obvious you are selfish and my brother pedroh is for the greater good of humanity

with a comment like "I can give a rats @rse what everybody else does .. I have my green card, I can work and feed my family, that's all it matters, if 10000 people wanna do it in another fashion, I don't care..."

True colors show ... self serving

firstof all natty..i am an american..and i am also a member of the human race and believe all humans have self worth...regardless of where they come from or ended up ..or their current station in life...

but, if you feel your well if the best..then it is your opinion..and i live my life and do what i feel is best ..

So ... I am an American too ... This was stated why ?

Hedonistic attitude ??

he·don·ist /ˈhidnɪst/

–noun

1. a person whose life is devoted to the pursuit of pleasure and self-gratification.

–adjective

2. Also, he·don·is·tic. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of a hedonist or hedonism.

Hmmm... "Hedonist" is a little bit of a stretch IMO. Most people are hedonistic to some extent - I didn't see anything in his post above that could be construed to suggest that Almaty's life is devoted to the pursuit of pleasure. That's a little unfair IMO.

[Ban Hammer 14,269]

if y'all want to report them, I can give you their info..

first the above, then the below. you got served. and pwned.

ha.. nice try.. but nope, I'm not a rat.. I prefer them to stay knowing that people like you don't get sleep because 'they are here illegaly'.. illegal immigration is not part of my daily life, I have better things to do, than being nosy on people.. there's not even a satisfaction in doing it, if they were harming the community, I'd do it, but, they don't bother anybody,

and i sleep quite well. how you sleep while knowing what you do and yet do nothing is beyond me.

once again, you make excuses " if they were harming the community, I'd do it, but, they don't bother anybody,"

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Your choices will be Giuliani or Clinton. Good luck.

Yeah no kidding. And to think we don't technically choose these people either - just pick from a menu. A menu that someone else writes.

I'm partially teasing, Gary. I actually think the Republican nomination is still up for grabs. Obama could unseat Clinton but not likely.

Gotcha - I definitely don't want Hillary, but none of the other candidates really stand out to me. Obama's too much of an unknown quantity and Paul is unelectable by a core portion of the Republican electorate. I honestly don't see anyone I'm particularly crazy about.

There may be a 3rd Party candidate....Mike Bloomberg may decide to run.

...although for the hardliners on immigration, he's not much hope for them:

Nearly 40 percent of New York City's entire population is made up of immigrants and about 500,000 came to the city illegally.

"Although they broke the law by illegally crossing our borders or overstaying their visas, and our businesses broke the law by employing them, our city's economy would be a shell of itself had they not," said Bloomberg.

http://en.epochtimes.com/news/6-7-8/43678.html

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Your choices will be Giuliani or Clinton. Good luck.

Yeah no kidding. And to think we don't technically choose these people either - just pick from a menu. A menu that someone else writes.

I'm partially teasing, Gary. I actually think the Republican nomination is still up for grabs. Obama could unseat Clinton but not likely.

Gotcha - I definitely don't want Hillary, but none of the other candidates really stand out to me. Obama's too much of an unknown quantity and Paul is unelectable by a core portion of the Republican electorate. I honestly don't see anyone I'm particularly crazy about.

There may be a 3rd Party candidate....Mike Bloomberg may decide to run.

...although for the hardliners on immigration, he's not much hope for them:

Nearly 40 percent of New York City's entire population is made up of immigrants and about 500,000 came to the city illegally.

"Although they broke the law by illegally crossing our borders or overstaying their visas, and our businesses broke the law by employing them, our city's economy would be a shell of itself had they not," said Bloomberg.

http://en.epochtimes.com/news/6-7-8/43678.html

I don't know too much about his views - but Bloomberg is going through some flak at the moment. Posters and flyers up all over town about "how he's wrong on every level: ethically, morally, legally etc".

Not sure exactly what its about as I've not been paying attention - but it seem to have something to do a broken promise involving public money.

[natty bumppo 297]

ha.. nice try.. but nope, I'm not a rat.. I prefer them to stay knowing that people like you don't get sleep because 'they are here illegaly'.. illegal immigration is not part of my daily life, I have better things to do, than being nosy on people

It's not about being a rat.

I sleep very well thank you ... and when/if I've discovered someone and reported them ... I've done right by this country and can sleep.

If they are sent back to wherever and their family is broken ... too bad. They should not have been here.

Dude ... imigration is a huge part of your life. You are here legally ... yes ?

yes, i'm legally, and I just care about my family and myself.. I don't care about that 'greater good' 'sovereignity' 'law abiding'... I came to the USA, and not my wife to Mexico, to have a better life, for me and now my son... and that's it.. I can give a rats @rse what everybody else does.. I have my green card, I can work and feed my family, that's all it matters, if 10000 people wanna do it in another fashion, I don't care...

this is where we are different ... selfish vs. greater good

it is obvious you are selfish and my brother pedroh is for the greater good of humanity

with a comment like "I can give a rats @rse what everybody else does .. I have my green card, I can work and feed my family, that's all it matters, if 10000 people wanna do it in another fashion, I don't care..."

True colors show ... self serving

firstof all natty..i am an american..and i am also a member of the human race and believe all humans have self worth...regardless of where they come from or ended up ..or their current station in life...

but, if you feel your well if the best..then it is your opinion..and i live my life and do what i feel is best ..

So ... I am an American too ... This was stated why ?

Hedonistic attitude ??

he·don·ist /ˈhidnɪst/

–noun

1. a person whose life is devoted to the pursuit of pleasure and self-gratification.

–adjective

2. Also, he·don·is·tic. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of a hedonist or hedonism.

Hmmm... "Hedonist" is a little bit of a stretch IMO. Most people are hedonistic to some extent - I didn't see anything in his post above that could be construed to suggest that Almaty's life is devoted to the pursuit of pleasure. That's a little unfair IMO.

it may be a stretch ... yet the attitude about not caring brings it into focus

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

ha.. nice try.. but nope, I'm not a rat.. I prefer them to stay knowing that people like you don't get sleep because 'they are here illegaly'.. illegal immigration is not part of my daily life, I have better things to do, than being nosy on people

It's not about being a rat.

I sleep very well thank you ... and when/if I've discovered someone and reported them ... I've done right by this country and can sleep.

If they are sent back to wherever and their family is broken ... too bad. They should not have been here.

Dude ... imigration is a huge part of your life. You are here legally ... yes ?

yes, i'm legally, and I just care about my family and myself.. I don't care about that 'greater good' 'sovereignity' 'law abiding'... I came to the USA, and not my wife to Mexico, to have a better life, for me and now my son... and that's it.. I can give a rats @rse what everybody else does.. I have my green card, I can work and feed my family, that's all it matters, if 10000 people wanna do it in another fashion, I don't care...

this is where we are different ... selfish vs. greater good

it is obvious you are selfish and my brother pedroh is for the greater good of humanity

with a comment like "I can give a rats @rse what everybody else does .. I have my green card, I can work and feed my family, that's all it matters, if 10000 people wanna do it in another fashion, I don't care..."

True colors show ... self serving

firstof all natty..i am an american..and i am also a member of the human race and believe all humans have self worth...regardless of where they come from or ended up ..or their current station in life...

but, if you feel your well if the best..then it is your opinion..and i live my life and do what i feel is best ..

So ... I am an American too ... This was stated why ?

Hedonistic attitude ??

he·don·ist /ˈhidnɪst/

–noun

1. a person whose life is devoted to the pursuit of pleasure and self-gratification.

–adjective

2. Also, he·don·is·tic. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of a hedonist or hedonism.

Hmmm... "Hedonist" is a little bit of a stretch IMO. Most people are hedonistic to some extent - I didn't see anything in his post above that could be construed to suggest that Almaty's life is devoted to the pursuit of pleasure. That's a little unfair IMO.

it may be a stretch ... yet the attitude about not caring brings it into focus

Not really - he just has different priorities on the issue of illegal immigration than you do. You can't write off someone's entire lifestyle on the basis of that they're somehow more concerned with the pursuit of personal pleasure. There's no basis for that at all.

[natty bumppo 297]

yes, i'm legally, and I just care about my family and myself.. I don't care about that 'greater good' 'sovereignity' 'law abiding'... I came to the USA, and not my wife to Mexico, to have a better life, for me and now my son... and that's it.. I can give a rats @rse what everybody else does.. I have my green card, I can work and feed my family, that's all it matters, if 10000 people wanna do it in another fashion, I don't care...

this is where we are different ... selfish vs. greater good

it is obvious you are selfish and my brother pedroh is for the greater good of humanity

with a comment like "I can give a rats @rse what everybody else does .. I have my green card, I can work and feed my family, that's all it matters, if 10000 people wanna do it in another fashion, I don't care..."

True colors show ... self serving

firstof all natty..i am an american..and i am also a member of the human race and believe all humans have self worth...regardless of where they come from or ended up ..or their current station in life...

but, if you feel your well if the best..then it is your opinion..and i live my life and do what i feel is best ..

So ... I am an American too ... This was stated why ?

Hedonistic attitude ??

he·don·ist /ˈhidnɪst/

–noun

1. a person whose life is devoted to the pursuit of pleasure and self-gratification.

–adjective

2. Also, he·don·is·tic. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of a hedonist or hedonism.

Hmmm... "Hedonist" is a little bit of a stretch IMO. Most people are hedonistic to some extent - I didn't see anything in his post above that could be construed to suggest that Almaty's life is devoted to the pursuit of pleasure. That's a little unfair IMO.

it may be a stretch ... yet the attitude about not caring brings it into focus

Not really - he just has different priorities on the issue of illegal immigration than you do. You can't write off someone's entire lifestyle on the basis of that they're somehow more concerned with the pursuit of personal pleasure. There's no basis for that at all.

This goes back a few quotes ... oh sorry ... I gave references ... unlike others

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

yes, i'm legally, and I just care about my family and myself.. I don't care about that 'greater good' 'sovereignity' 'law abiding'... I came to the USA, and not my wife to Mexico, to have a better life, for me and now my son... and that's it.. I can give a rats @rse what everybody else does.. I have my green card, I can work and feed my family, that's all it matters, if 10000 people wanna do it in another fashion, I don't care...

this is where we are different ... selfish vs. greater good

it is obvious you are selfish and my brother pedroh is for the greater good of humanity

with a comment like "I can give a rats @rse what everybody else does .. I have my green card, I can work and feed my family, that's all it matters, if 10000 people wanna do it in another fashion, I don't care..."

True colors show ... self serving

firstof all natty..i am an american..and i am also a member of the human race and believe all humans have self worth...regardless of where they come from or ended up ..or their current station in life...

but, if you feel your well if the best..then it is your opinion..and i live my life and do what i feel is best ..

So ... I am an American too ... This was stated why ?

Hedonistic attitude ??

he·don·ist /ˈhidnɪst/

–noun

1. a person whose life is devoted to the pursuit of pleasure and self-gratification.

–adjective

2. Also, he·don·is·tic. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of a hedonist or hedonism.

Hmmm... "Hedonist" is a little bit of a stretch IMO. Most people are hedonistic to some extent - I didn't see anything in his post above that could be construed to suggest that Almaty's life is devoted to the pursuit of pleasure. That's a little unfair IMO.

it may be a stretch ... yet the attitude about not caring brings it into focus

Not really - he just has different priorities on the issue of illegal immigration than you do. You can't write off someone's entire lifestyle on the basis of that they're somehow more concerned with the pursuit of personal pleasure. There's no basis for that at all.

This goes back a few quotes ... oh sorry ... I gave references ... unlike others

References or no - I still think its an unsupportable statement based on what you bolded in Almaty's post.

[natty bumppo 297]

This goes back a few quotes ... oh sorry ... I gave references ... unlike others

References or no - I still think its an unsupportable statement based on what you bolded in Almaty's post.

opinions vary ...

note: references given

[Marilyn. 340]

so because someone prefers to live their life then to be worried about illegal immigration , they are selfish and self-serving??

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

so because someone prefers to live their life then to be worried about illegal immigration , they are selfish and self-serving??

Indeed - a person isn't obligated to care passionately about every issue in the public conciousness.

[Peikko 1,575]

Regarding your posting preferences, they are just that, preferences. There is nothing sinister or wrong in copying and pasting in a different way than the way you do it so long as in so doing one keeps the original text free from editing distortions. Of course, if I have misunderstood posting regulations and I am not allowed to do it the way I have been, I am sure that the moderators will step in and let me know.