Oklahoma targets illegal immigrants with tough new law

[athena_ny 1]

I didn't know my husband was out of status until the week before we got married.

And at that point, I didn't really care. (And no, he never lied to me, I just never asked. I didn't care.)

Sure glad we don't live in Oklahoma. Because it seems like this is going to affect legal immigrants in a bad way, too.

Well right now, the mantra is:

"The Tulsa County Sheriff's Office says the only Hispanic people who need to worry about being deported are the ones who are here illegally and are caught committing a crime." (as quoted from the kotv website)

I'm still carrying around all my paperwork everywhere I go.

That's an issue you have ... you really should care. I care very much about my wife's status ... and the location of her documentation ... and copies.

Thanks for the smartass remark, but as you can see, I said I didn't know until the week before we got married. Obviously I know now, and since we paid a couple thousand dollars to get his status fixed, obviously I care now. Nice job reading.

Not that knowing his legal status when I met him would have changed the way I felt about him.

Point is, if I was dumb enough to live in OK (thank God I'm not) now I'd be in trouble for moving in with my boyfriend because they'd just assume I knew.

And just because OK passes this doesn't mean other states will follow ... look at the NYS governor who wants to loosen the restrictions on driver's licenses, making it easier for an illegal to get a NYS driver's license.

Not cool, AT ALL.

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THat's a damn big thing NOT to know before you get married, esp a week out.

Psh, why?

I knew we'd have to do AOS, regardless of whether he was out of status or in status. So we did, and were approved in less than 2 months.

Not really a big problem.

And maybe it's not cool...but it's not somewhere I'd ever want to live So oh well. Sorry if I offended but I can't take it back.

Sorry dev...you know I love you buttt it's just how I feel.

Because you were a week way from committing your life to someone - and he held back some damn important & potentially damaging info. Things that could have affected your life.

And I got upset (because I wanted to know why he hadn't told me, not because my life path would be so different, because as you can see, it wasnt), we resolved it, we moved on. Am I supposed to go home and start throwing stuff at him because VJ tells me I should be more upset, almost a year later?

Edited November 5, 2007 by meow mix

[Peikko 1,575]

What I am saying if I have a traffic accident where the police are called out I would be highly suprised if they chose to put me in jail because I choose not to carry any form of identification or that they would question my legality. However, if I were to 'look wrong' there is a very high chance that I would get the 'treatment'. I know this from personal experience, although as a one off, it's highly anecdotal.

[SMOKE 1,426]

I didn't know my husband was out of status until the week before we got married.

And at that point, I didn't really care. (And no, he never lied to me, I just never asked. I didn't care.)

Sure glad we don't live in Oklahoma. Because it seems like this is going to affect legal immigrants in a bad way, too.

Well right now, the mantra is:

"The Tulsa County Sheriff's Office says the only Hispanic people who need to worry about being deported are the ones who are here illegally and are caught committing a crime." (as quoted from the kotv website)

I'm still carrying around all my paperwork everywhere I go.

That's an issue you have ... you really should care. I care very much about my wife's status ... and the location of her documentation ... and copies.

Thanks for the smartass remark, but as you can see, I said I didn't know until the week before we got married. Obviously I know now, and since we paid a couple thousand dollars to get his status fixed, obviously I care now. Nice job reading.

Not that knowing his legal status when I met him would have changed the way I felt about him.

Point is, if I was dumb enough to live in OK (thank God I'm not) now I'd be in trouble for moving in with my boyfriend because they'd just assume I knew.

And just because OK passes this doesn't mean other states will follow ... look at the NYS governor who wants to loosen the restrictions on driver's licenses, making it easier for an illegal to get a NYS driver's license.

1st thank you for not living in Oklahoma....we have enough liberals w/ chips on their shoulder.

if you have all your paperwork on you or a phone call away....i'm pretty sure, a simple "look here is my paperwork, sorry its out of date. i will get it up to date ASAP" would avoid a deportation.

[Peikko 1,575]

Oh, so OK only welcomes people from the right wing of the political spectrum? Nice to know.

[SMOKE 1,426]

Oh, so OK only welcomes people from the right wing of the political spectrum? Nice to know.

NO...just my personal view.....got anymore snarky accusation "statements" to make?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

some people can't stand it when their arguement is baseless & someone points it out.......just a statement

Probably not proof you will accept - but a cursory (quick) google search revealed this:

Black, Latino drivers fare worse in traffic stops

That and the infamous UK Sus Laws that contributed greatly to the Brixton riots in the early 80's.

As far as proving a generality goes I think we can safely say it happens. My opinion, sure, but one with a degree of foundation to it.

[Ban Hammer 14,294]

What I am saying if I have a traffic accident where the police are called out I would be highly suprised if they chose to put me in jail because I choose not to carry any form of identification or that they would question my legality. However, if I were to 'look wrong' there is a very high chance that I would get the 'treatment'. I know this from personal experience, although as a one off, it's highly anecdotal.

ph, they can run your name thru the database. same for the vehicle.

also, you may get a ticket for not having your dl with you

[SMOKE 1,426]

some people can't stand it when their arguement is baseless & someone points it out.......just a statement

Probably not proof you will accept - but a cursory (quick) google search revealed this:

Black, Latino drivers fare worse in traffic stops

That and the infamous UK Sus Laws that contributed greatly to the Brixton riots in the early 80's.

As far as proving a generality goes I think we can safely say it happens. My opinion, sure, but one with a degree of foundation to it.

yep you're right...not accepting....how about some proof it is happening or will happen in OK because of this law?

[Peikko 1,575]

I may, but it is unlikely, because of my 'ethnic profile' as much as anything else. As I said, I have anecdotal evidence to back this up.

[SMOKE 1,426]

I may, but it is unlikely, because of my 'ethnic profile' as much as anything else. As I said, I have anecdotal evidence to back this up.

anecdotal...is that code for no or non?

Edited November 5, 2007 by tapout

[Ban Hammer 14,294]

I may, but it is unlikely, because of my 'ethnic profile' as much as anything else. As I said, I have anecdotal evidence to back this up.

i don't believe i've ever seen a pic of you.

[Peikko 1,575]

No, that's code for 'because it happened to me, doesn't mean it's typical for everyone'.

Indeed true, as I said, I like the freedom to remain anonymous, should I so wish

[SMOKE 1,426]

No, that's code for 'because it happened to me, doesn't mean it's typical for everyone'.

Indeed true, as I said, I like the freedom to remain anonymous, should I so wish

you know you also have the right to remain silent too.

[Cassie 8]

I didn't know my husband was out of status until the week before we got married.

And at that point, I didn't really care. (And no, he never lied to me, I just never asked. I didn't care.)

Sure glad we don't live in Oklahoma. Because it seems like this is going to affect legal immigrants in a bad way, too.

Well right now, the mantra is:

"The Tulsa County Sheriff's Office says the only Hispanic people who need to worry about being deported are the ones who are here illegally and are caught committing a crime." (as quoted from the kotv website)

I'm still carrying around all my paperwork everywhere I go.

i didn't know canadians looked hispanic

not my point. I carry all my stuff around because you just never know when you need it.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

some people can't stand it when their arguement is baseless & someone points it out.......just a statement

Probably not proof you will accept - but a cursory (quick) google search revealed this:

Black, Latino drivers fare worse in traffic stops

That and the infamous UK Sus Laws that contributed greatly to the Brixton riots in the early 80's.

As far as proving a generality goes I think we can safely say it happens. My opinion, sure, but one with a degree of foundation to it.

yep you're right...not accepting....how about some proof it is happening or will happen in OK because of this law?

It was a general point, but as far as that goes I don't think OK is all that much different from the rest of the country. We're not talking Hawaii here After all - no man is an island. Neither is OK State. And it seems to me that if you were being honest here - you would actually acknowledge these points as something to further the discussion (whether you agree with them or not), rather than get outraged and indignant.

As far as that goes I'm a little bemused that you somehow expect me to expected to predict what will happen following the implementation of this law. I'm not H.G. Wells after all However if we're talking generalities - of what has happened in the past (in similar circumstances) well...

I guess you can just relax, smoke another cigar and be happy that just because I can't prove what will happen - that everything is therefore hunky dory.

Saying that of course I think I can probably predict what your response to this post will be - if only in general terms