Jump to content

38 posts in this topic

Recommended Posts

Filed: Timeline
Posted

nytlogo153x23.gif

September 19, 2007

WINES OF THE TIMES

Happiness for $10 or Less

By ERIC ASIMOV

HOW much do you want to spend on a bottle of wine? The intuitive answer, of course, is as little as possible. That stands to reason, except that the way people buy wine is anything but reasonable.

For most consumers, wine-buying is an emotional issue. The restaurant industry has a longstanding belief that the lowest-priced wine on the list will never sell. Nobody wants to be seen as cheap. But the second-lowest-priced wine, that's the one people will gobble up.

Buying retail is a slightly different experience. Most people don't feel as if their retail purchases are windows into their ignorant, miserly souls, the way they do in restaurants, and so are less inhibited.

Still, rationality doesn't often enter into buying decisions. For some, money is meaningless, whether that's true because of huge credit lines, daddy's millions or success in business. These people will buy whatever is most expensive. Others, in a vinous form of anti-intellectualism, insist that no wine can be worth more than — pick your figure — and that only dupes will spend more.

Whichever the case, the issue of value — the ratio of quality to price — rarely enters into it.

Leave it to the Dining section's wine panel to try to fill this vacuum. In a tasting of 25 red wines all $10 or under, we tried to pick out not only the best bottles but also the best regions to explore for good values.

Let's face it, you can find hundreds if not thousands of bottles in this price range, down to the lowest of the low. We cannot try them all and say, "Here are the 10 best." But we can give you some suggestions as to where to look, while offering up some good examples.

For the tasting, Florence Fabricant and I were joined by Jill Roberts, a portfolio manager for Valckenberg, an importer of German wines, and Chris Goodhart, the wine director of Balthazar in SoHo.

Tasting Report: Structure and Personality, With a Small Price Tag

Casa Cadaval Portugal Ribatejano , $8.99, ***

Padre Pedro 2002

Smoke, earth, cherry and spice flavors in a well-structured Old World wine (Importer: HGC Imports, San Jose, Calif.).

Domaine de l'Ameillaud France , $9, ** ½

Vin de Pays de Vaucluse 2005

Mild tannins with attractive, lingering flavors of berry, cassis and olive (David Bowler Wine, New York).

Viña Gormaz Spain Ribera del Duero , $9, **

Tempranillo 2005

Fresh and juicy with a lively spiciness (Classical Wines, Seattle).

Georges Duboeuf France , $9, **

Beaujolais-Villages 2006

Juicy, fruity and floral. Decent Beaujolais best served chilled (W. J. Deutsch & Sons, Harrison, N.Y.).

Altas Cumbres Argentina Mendoza , $9, **

Cabernet Sauvignon 2005

Lingering, jammy flavors of cherry and licorice (RV Distributors, Hoboken, N.J.).

Wyatt California Cabernet Sauvignon 2005 , $10, **

Big and almost over the top with dark fruit, oak and spice flavors.

J. Vidal-Fleury France , $10, **

Côtes-du-Ventoux 2005

Aroma of burnt rubber gives way to flavors of bitter cherry and spices (W. J. Deutsch & Sons, Harrison, N.Y.).

Domaine Monte de Luz , $7, **

Uruguay Tannat 2006

Rich and plummy with smoky, spicy cherry flavors (Baron Francois, New York).

Ravenswood California Vintner's Blend , $10, **

Merlot 2004

Fruit, floral and spice flavors; straightforward and pleasant.

Paringa , $9, * ½

South Australia Cabernet Sauvignon 2005

David Hickinbotham Individual Vineyard

Big and powerful with berry, oak and fruit flavors (Grateful Palate Imports, Oxnard, Calif.).

drinkblink14.gif
  • Replies 37
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Filed: K-3 Visa Country: Mexico
Timeline
Posted

they left two buck chuck out! :diablo:

Daniel

:energetic:

Ana (Mexico) ------ Daniel (California)(me)

---------------------------------------------

Sept. 11, 2004: Got married (civil), in Mexico :D

July 23, 2005: Church wedding

===============================

K3(I-129F):

Oct. 28, 2004: Mailed I-129F.

~USPS, First-Class, Certified Mail, Rtn Recpt ($5.80)

Nov. 3, 2004: NOA1!!!!

Nov. 5, 2004: Check Cashed!!

zzzz deep hibernationn zzzz

May 12, 2005 NOA2!!!! #######!!! huh???

off to NVC.

May 26, 2005: NVC approves I129F.

CR1(I-130):

Oct. 6, 2004: Mailed I-130.

~USPS, First-Class, Certified Mail, Rtn Recpt ($5.80)

Oct. 8, 2004: I-130 Delivered to CSC in Laguna Niguel.

~Per USPS website's tracking tool.

Oct. 12, 2004 BCIS-CSC Signs for I-130 packet.

Oct. 21, 2004 Check cashed!

Oct. 25, 2004 NOA1 (I-130) Go CSC!!

Jan. 05, 2005 Approved!!!! Off to NVC!!!!

===============================

NVC:

Jan. 05, 2005 ---> in route from CSC

Jan. 12, 2005 Case entered system

Jan. 29, 2005 Received I-864 Bill

Jan. 31, 2005 Sent Payment to St. Louis(I864)

Feb. 01, 2005 Wife received DS3032(Choice of Agent)

Feb. 05, 2005 Payment Received in St. Louis(I864)

Feb. 08, 2005 Sent DS3032 to Portsmouth NH

Feb. 12, 2005 DS3032 Received by NVC

Mar. 04, 2005 Received IV Bill

Mar. 04, 2005 Sent IV Bill Payment

Mar. 08, 2005 Received I864

Mar. 19, 2005 Sent I864

Mar. 21, 2005 I864 Received my NVC

Apr. 18, 2005 Received DS230

Apr. 19, 2005 Sent DS230

Apr. 20, 2005 DS230 received by NVC (signed by S Merfeld)

Apr. 22, 2005 DS230 entered NVC system

Apr. 27, 2005 CASE COMPLETE

May 10, 2005 CASE SENT TO JUAREZ

Off to Cd. Juarez! :D

calls to NVC: 6

===============================

CIUDAD JUAREZ, American Consulate:

Apr. 27, 2005 case completed at NVC.

May 10, 2005 in route to Juarez.

May 25, 2005 Case at consulate.

===============================

-- Legal Disclaimer:What I say is only a reflection of what I did, going to do, or may do; it may also reflect what I have read others did, are going to do, or may do. What you do or may do is what you do or may do. You do so or may do so strictly out of your on voilition; or follow what a lawyer advised you to do, or may do. Having said that: have a nice day!

Filed: K-3 Visa Country: Mexico
Timeline
Posted (edited)
Even Two-Buck Chuck is palatable, though I wouldn’t insult you by telling you it’s good.

:diablo:

blast them!

Daniel

:energetic:

Edited by AnaAndDaniel

Ana (Mexico) ------ Daniel (California)(me)

---------------------------------------------

Sept. 11, 2004: Got married (civil), in Mexico :D

July 23, 2005: Church wedding

===============================

K3(I-129F):

Oct. 28, 2004: Mailed I-129F.

~USPS, First-Class, Certified Mail, Rtn Recpt ($5.80)

Nov. 3, 2004: NOA1!!!!

Nov. 5, 2004: Check Cashed!!

zzzz deep hibernationn zzzz

May 12, 2005 NOA2!!!! #######!!! huh???

off to NVC.

May 26, 2005: NVC approves I129F.

CR1(I-130):

Oct. 6, 2004: Mailed I-130.

~USPS, First-Class, Certified Mail, Rtn Recpt ($5.80)

Oct. 8, 2004: I-130 Delivered to CSC in Laguna Niguel.

~Per USPS website's tracking tool.

Oct. 12, 2004 BCIS-CSC Signs for I-130 packet.

Oct. 21, 2004 Check cashed!

Oct. 25, 2004 NOA1 (I-130) Go CSC!!

Jan. 05, 2005 Approved!!!! Off to NVC!!!!

===============================

NVC:

Jan. 05, 2005 ---> in route from CSC

Jan. 12, 2005 Case entered system

Jan. 29, 2005 Received I-864 Bill

Jan. 31, 2005 Sent Payment to St. Louis(I864)

Feb. 01, 2005 Wife received DS3032(Choice of Agent)

Feb. 05, 2005 Payment Received in St. Louis(I864)

Feb. 08, 2005 Sent DS3032 to Portsmouth NH

Feb. 12, 2005 DS3032 Received by NVC

Mar. 04, 2005 Received IV Bill

Mar. 04, 2005 Sent IV Bill Payment

Mar. 08, 2005 Received I864

Mar. 19, 2005 Sent I864

Mar. 21, 2005 I864 Received my NVC

Apr. 18, 2005 Received DS230

Apr. 19, 2005 Sent DS230

Apr. 20, 2005 DS230 received by NVC (signed by S Merfeld)

Apr. 22, 2005 DS230 entered NVC system

Apr. 27, 2005 CASE COMPLETE

May 10, 2005 CASE SENT TO JUAREZ

Off to Cd. Juarez! :D

calls to NVC: 6

===============================

CIUDAD JUAREZ, American Consulate:

Apr. 27, 2005 case completed at NVC.

May 10, 2005 in route to Juarez.

May 25, 2005 Case at consulate.

===============================

-- Legal Disclaimer:What I say is only a reflection of what I did, going to do, or may do; it may also reflect what I have read others did, are going to do, or may do. What you do or may do is what you do or may do. You do so or may do so strictly out of your on voilition; or follow what a lawyer advised you to do, or may do. Having said that: have a nice day!

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: England
Timeline
Posted
they left two buck chuck out! :diablo:

Daniel

:energetic:

thanks that reminded me I must go to Trader Joes and restock :thumbs:

What to expect at the POE - WIKI entry

IR-1 Timeline IR-1 details in my timeline

N-400 Timeline

2009-08-21 Applied for US Citizenship

2009-08-28 NOA

2009-09-22 Biometrics appointment

2009-12-01 Interview - Approved

2009-12-02 Oath ceremony - now a US Citizen

Filed: Timeline
Posted (edited)
HOW much do you want to spend on a bottle of wine? The intuitive answer, of course, is as little as possible.

That's counter-intuitive, if you want a good bottle of wine.

Well I have tried two of those on the Times' under $10 list and they were pretty decent. I guess I will have to try some of the others and see if I like them or not. I think what they were trying to say is one does not always have to spend a great deal to get a good bottle of wine. I mean I have had excellent wine at a little trattoria in Trastevere in Rome for a little of nothing and picked up a great French wine while vacationing in Paris at a small shop for under $20, so I think it just depends on what you are exposed to and what one has access to and no to mention just one's preference.

Edited by JODO
drinkblink14.gif
Filed: Country: United Kingdom
Timeline
Posted
I think what they were trying to say is one does not always have to spend a great deal to get a good bottle of wine.

That's true, but it's still counter-intuitive. Intuition tells you that a better bottle of wine should cost more money. :P

biden_pinhead.jpgspace.gifrolling-stones-american-flag-tongue.jpgspace.gifinside-geico.jpg
Filed: Timeline
Posted
I think what they were trying to say is one does not always have to spend a great deal to get a good bottle of wine.

That's true, but it's still counter-intuitive. Intuition tells you that a better bottle of wine should cost more money. :P

That's true,but luckily I think there are some deals to be had every now and then :)

drinkblink14.gif
Filed: Timeline
Posted
That's true,but luckily I think there are some deals to be had every now and then :)

Oh absolutely! A $10 bottle can taste much better than a $20 bottle, it's just counter-intuitive :P

You're determined to right counter-intuitive about my cheap wine listttt :bonk:

:lol: I hear ya.

drinkblink14.gif
 

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
- Back to Top -

Important Disclaimer: Please read carefully the Visajourney.com Terms of Service. If you do not agree to the Terms of Service you should not access or view any page (including this page) on VisaJourney.com. Answers and comments provided on Visajourney.com Forums are general information, and are not intended to substitute for informed professional medical, psychiatric, psychological, tax, legal, investment, accounting, or other professional advice. Visajourney.com does not endorse, and expressly disclaims liability for any product, manufacturer, distributor, service or service provider mentioned or any opinion expressed in answers or comments. VisaJourney.com does not condone immigration fraud in any way, shape or manner. VisaJourney.com recommends that if any member or user knows directly of someone involved in fraudulent or illegal activity, that they report such activity directly to the Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement. You can contact ICE via email at Immigration.Reply@dhs.gov or you can telephone ICE at 1-866-347-2423. All reported threads/posts containing reference to immigration fraud or illegal activities will be removed from this board. If you feel that you have found inappropriate content, please let us know by contacting us here with a url link to that content. Thank you.
×
×
  • Create New...