So long, white boy

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Chomsky, ROFLMAO

[Jenn! 918]

Chomsky, ROFLMAO

What's so funny?

Fukc off

Edited September 17, 2007 by Jenn!

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smoke20 - I'm not going to have a conversation with you on PM. Bring it out in the open and maybe I'll have something to say.

[pedroh 21]

I was just trying to point out the elitism that oozes from this story. They don't give a very flattering view of the dems. I hope that isn't the prevailing view of people on the left.

I didn't see the elitism, personally. The article seems to suggest that a particular group don't hold as much sway over elections as they once did. Politics is run by polls and statistics these days - how what you say will increase your vote by x.x%. It would be nice to think that the people who want to have a say in running the country will speak their mind, regardless of the consequences, and run the risk of alienating certain voters. But that doesn't happen. One of the main things that people tend to say about politicians is that "there's not much between them', "they all say the same thing", etc. Maybe it's because they all listen to pollsters and funnel their soundbites accordingly.

Although elitism exists, some of it is self-imposed, I would argue. In the same way that there's nothing stopping me going to watch NASCAR, there's nothing stopping 'Bubba' from hitting the opera when he's in town. Politicians who try to downplay the fact that they may watch the occasional subtitled film or see a play are just ridiculous. These obligatory hunting photo ops are stupid. If I'm electing someone to make important decisions on complex subjects, I don't mind that they have broad interests, from sport to the arts. Why do I want a leader I could have a beer with? I'd rather they knew world geography than who won American Idol.

i dont think its elitist either.. the marketing/ad/campaigning effort needed on bubbas is minimum.. and that's not being elitist.. if it's the bubbas who didn't finish high school, and again are married to a close relative, and happen to be white (i've seen black and NA bubbas)..

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I think the real point here is the number of Bubba's in the voting population. If there were enough of them, the parties (both of them) would appeal to them a lot more than they do.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Chomsky, ROFLMAO

What's wrong with Chomsky?

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He's as electable as Keyes (who just joined the GOP race) or Kucinich.

[smoke20 0]

smoke20 - I'm not going to have a conversation with you on PM. Bring it out in the open and maybe I'll have something to say.

i'm not going to flame someone's nationality or race on this board. i don't see any need to offend people for no reason. unlike you i will take the high road on this one.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

smoke20 - I'm not going to have a conversation with you on PM. Bring it out in the open and maybe I'll have something to say.

i'm not going to flame someone's nationality or race on this board. i don't see any need to offend people for no reason. unlike you i will take the high road on this one.

Allrighty, then.

[mawilson 2,133]

smoke20 - I'm not going to have a conversation with you on PM. Bring it out in the open and maybe I'll have something to say.

Heh - I hate PM's myself.

You can do what I do - keep your mailbox full.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

He's as electable as Keyes (who just joined the GOP race) or Kucinich.

True – but he’d also probably not stand on principle of participating in an inherently corrupt system.

[pedroh 21]

i don't think noone's offending the male white voters from the south, unless u consider urself a bubba..

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

smoke20 - I'm not going to have a conversation with you on PM. Bring it out in the open and maybe I'll have something to say.

i'm not going to flame someone's nationality or race on this board. i don't see any need to offend people for no reason. unlike you i will take the high road on this one.

Allrighty, then.

Don't take the "high horse down the low road"

[Caladan 19]

If getting Bubba's vote means changing Democratic positions in order to be more in line with Bubba's opinions and interests, then of course, no we don't want Bubba's vote.

I think that's mostly it. The NASCAR dads are probably a lost cause as far as the Dems are concerned. In other news, the Republicans probably aren't going to campaign hard for the black vote. (Heck, Tancredo was the only one to even grace the NAACP with his presence at the Republican debate they invited them to.)

[almaty 19]

If getting Bubba's vote means changing Democratic positions in order to be more in line with Bubba's opinions and interests, then of course, no we don't want Bubba's vote.

I think that's mostly it. The NASCAR dads are probably a lost cause as far as the Dems are concerned. In other news, the Republicans probably aren't going to campaign hard for the black vote. (Heck, Tancredo was the only one to even grace the NAACP with his presence at the Republican debate they invited them to.)

true, both playinguyp to the votes than can count on...why waste time and money, when the votes will never be there