Prenuptial agreement - anyone else do one?

[Lucas 0]

"Oriental People" is also considered a derogatory term. Regardless, it is disturbing that it is the common belief that Asian women marry American men simply to become American. I can't speak for Ding's wife, but I hope that is not the case. Look into yourself and see how you may be spreading this belief. No one should ever feel ashamed of their heritage.

[chuckandkim 0]

Ok, the consenseous here:

No 3rd world countries, no oriental (I think of wholesale rugs when I hear ORIENTAL.

Read more on Oriental

[bszoom42 0]

Just wondering if anyone else did a prenuptial agreement???

I found a good lawyer in Bangkok that knew a Thai lawyer who represented Lek.

The forms were duplicated in Thai, we met our attorneys in seperate areas, and had to sign our names 236 times!

For me, I just wanted the extra assurance that she couldn't be marrying me for ulterior motives ...(my stuff! ).

Did you really sign 236 times? Impressive.

If my fiancee asked me to sign a prenuptial, I would read it and sign. (Not that I don't love her, but paperwork is my thing, so it's my responsibility to do the reading.)

If I asked my fiancee to sign a prenuptial, she would just sign it without reading. (For all paperwork, I try to ask her to read, but she doesn't want to, and she can be rather convincing when she wants to be...)

All that being said, I could never ask my fiancee to sign a prenuptial, not because I am scared about her not trusting me or her not signing it; I just want her to have everything I have; no ifs, ands, or buts. I believe in the "what's mine is yours, and yours is mine" philosophy directly after marriage. Actually, I would give her half my stuff now, but I'm too lazy to do that much paperwork!

What I will be doing after marriage is quickly creating a will so that she is covered just in case something happens to me (probate court is no fun!). Now some people may say that putting her in the will the first day after marriage is too soon; and I say better safe then sorry.

[ding 1]

True on the will. I experienced an intestate secession (sp?) and it was no fun. Better to have it all on paper and spelled out -just in case.

As for other's opinions, I think your hearts are good and in the right place. Without full information you are right 100%.

But you are a bit off in this case. Wish I could go into it but don't want to go further. Funny that I got flamed when I thought the lying didn't extend into the marriage but was limited to social and work situations. BTW- I asked my wife about lying and she said 96-97% of Thais lie to save face etc.

Do you think she started lying to me again? Maybe she doesn't know what she's talking about?

She's a very smart woman, I'm going with her on this one.

As for forgiveness... I have never been through this much pain. Forgiveness was very hard and continues. There's no god-like position here. Just very very human, and it hurts. But all people make mistakes, like I have in the past. And it'll get easier in time.

[ladywhite 0]

What I will be doing after marriage is quickly creating a will so that she is covered just in case something happens to me (probate court is no fun!).

I have been one of the beneficiaries (other than his two sons) for my fiance's life insurance and we have not legally married yet...

We are with you for the philosophy: "Mine is yours and yours is mine."

[chuckandkim 0]

I'm with you!

Think of it this way, it's too late when you're married. She knows where you sleep at night, she knows where you take a #######, don't be caught with your strouse down. Why should you be worry that she may take your earthly possesion when the more important question I should be asking: We have No trust in our marriage, can this be everlasting, or We will be constantly looking out for each other? I wouldn't get married if that is the precondition!

[David-Hien 11]

I'm with you!

Think of it this way, it's too late when you're married. She knows where you sleep at night, she knows where you take a #######, don't be caught with your strouse down. Why should you be worry that she may take your earthly possesion when the more important question I should be asking: We have No trust in our marriage, can this be everlasting, or We will be constantly looking out for each other? I wouldn't get married if that is the precondition!

I agree with chuckandkim in this point. I'm sorry to say that I cannot completely understand what about the topic due to some strange words, but I can guess by the replies that you said about the "property contract" before marriage??

Ummm, don't think that only the Americans are the richest ones, and don't think that only the Americans can make more money than the others in USA.

The contract is only correct when your wife has nothing before you get married, if she had the house, private company, and her own business on her country, what would you do?? I think, at that time, she would set up the contract and ask you to sign the first.

Hien

[poppscc 0]

I think ding is doing the right thing. If you have read his case I think that most people will see that a prenup is the right thing to do. His other personal issues are just that, his personal issues

[David-Hien 11]

I think ding is doing the right thing. If you have read his case I think that most people will see that a prenup is the right thing to do. His other personal issues are just that, his personal issues

Well, it's up to each case to say, I also read so many articles on other websites which said about Vietnam tourist and the scam from Vietnam. Sincerely say, I feel ashame for Vietnamese to read that articles and feel sad. So, just do what you think that it can protect you for your happiness.

Hien

[nate&nid 0]

Ding, what happens personally between you and Lek is your own business, and as you probably already have found out, this forum was definately not the right place for this question. Sounds like it was already done anyway when you wrote it. So to answer your question, Nid and I did not nor will not do a prenup (really no need for me, my first ex-wife made absolutely sure I had nothing left). That was my decision. If you feel it is the best route for you and Lek, everyone here should respect your decision. BTW, who did the translations, your lawyer or her lawyer?

Thai's lie! American's lie! German's lie! Brit's lie! VN's lie! Lawyer's lie! Every person on this planet lies. That is 100% fact. If you would say "all white anglo-saxon male carbon-based bipeds in Maryland lie" I would have to agree. Good Luck to you and Lek, I am very happy that the two of you were able to reconcile and move ahead.

[bszoom42 0]

Every person on this planet lies. That is 100% fact.

I hear that 94.7% of statements use statistics that are fictitious.

[nate&nid 0]

Every person on this planet lies. That is 100% fact.

I hear that 94.7% of statements use statistics that are fictitious.

That all ... I would have guessed it much much higher ....

[LovelyTena 0]

This is a real hot topic!! I personally do not understand how a person can get marry to someone that he does not trust. Of course he say that he loves her but is this the only thing?? Think about that deeper. Why would a man go to the 3rd countries to find a wife?? It is just because modern women are not as easy to control. So the question here is should the woman not be more worried than the man? The woman is giving up her entire life to be with the man she loves and sorry for this expression but it sounds like she is treated like a piece of #######. She does not give up her life to be someones slave!!! Most of the cases I have read about where the "Thai" women are using their husband to get to the US....I have to say that the man is stupid enough to fall for that because if you would take your time to get to know the person better (and not decide to get marry so fast) than you do not have to worry that she is using you!

Of course the man got a reason to worry about this issue because reality is that there are that kind of person out there that uses the man but the man can control the situation!!

No offens to anybody....just my 2 cents!

So you are saying Thailand is a 3rd world country? That is pretty offensive.

Economically, Thailand is still considered a 3rd world country, though developing country is a better term.

SO is Indonesia a 3rd world country as well?

[LovelyTena 0]

Ding, what happens personally between you and Lek is your own business, and as you probably already have found out, this forum was definately not the right place for this question. Sounds like it was already done anyway when you wrote it. So to answer your question, Nid and I did not nor will not do a prenup (really no need for me, my first ex-wife made absolutely sure I had nothing left). That was my decision. If you feel it is the best route for you and Lek, everyone here should respect your decision. BTW, who did the translations, your lawyer or her lawyer?

Thai's lie! American's lie! German's lie! Brit's lie! VN's lie! Lawyer's lie! Every person on this planet lies. That is 100% fact. If you would say "all white anglo-saxon male carbon-based bipeds in Maryland lie" I would have to agree. Good Luck to you and Lek, I am very happy that the two of you were able to reconcile and move ahead.

ditto that!!

[TinTin and Samby 11]

Ay Naku! Way too much political correctness going on in this post..