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Situation: I called the contact center to reschedule my interview when I received the interview notice in August because my husband would be on a mandatory, two-week work trip in October, when our interview was scheduled. I received a letter from USCIS acknowledging the reschedule request for the N-400 case and confirming it would be rescheduled. I assumed since it was one interview, my rescheduling was confirmed. However, on the day of the original interview, the 751 was denied and closed. When I followed up, the contact center explained that my reschedule request had only been applied to the 400 application and not the 751—even though both were supposed to be adjudicated together at the same interview and this was what I requested the agent to do on the phone. The agent guaranteed my N-400 would still be rescheduled and both cases could still be adjudicated at that interview, which was definitely not true after I spoke to an immigration attorney.

 

Today, I have now received yet another denial letter for the N-400 and the reason given is that I failed to appear for my N-400 interview, despite the fact that I have a letter from the field office confirming my reschedule request for the N-400.

 

Do you think it's worth filing and I-290B/N-336 to save both applications since I have that reschedule confirmation from USCIS and I have proof that I contacted CIS in good timing to reschedule with documented evidence? Or do I need to file a fresh I-751? I am still happily married to my husband so this will not be a waiver case, and we are way past the 90-day deadline. My lawyer thinks I have a decent case for an I-290B but she's also very forthcoming and is clear that it could very well be denied. She wants to try a wait and see approach, but I don't mind filing an I-290B and a fresh I-751 together.

Edited by OfficialEJF
Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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Welcome to the forum, and terribly sorry to hear this news.

 

Another option would be to involve your U.S. Congressman's office (the immigration liaison there).

Given the time, expense, and uncertainty that you face, you have nothing to lose by trying this route.

They'll have a Release Form on their site to authorize their intercession with USCIS on your behalf.

Try this, and keep us apprised.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

Posted

Unfortunately, because the case has been closed, my congressman was not able to do anything. They basically asked me to submit the I-290B and then they'll reach out to USCIS to expedite that process.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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It's good that you tried.  It's up to you now whether to accept your lawyer's recommendation.  Keep us apprised.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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Posted (edited)
On 10/28/2025 at 10:17 AM, OfficialEJF said:

She wants to try a wait and see approach, but I don't mind filing an I-290B and a fresh I-751 together.

What does "wait and see" mean? It sounds like she wants to do nothing and wait to see if you get detained and put into removal proceedings? That would be a nice income boost for your lawyer.

 

Technically there is an argument to make that USCIS did not make any error because the letter confirms you only rescheduled the N-400.  Then the N-400 had to be denied since the I-751 was previously denied.

 

Its can be hard to make USCIS admit they messed up and it was really their fault.   Question, does filing the I-290B means that you will be out of status because your I-751 was denied?  If so, it might be better to get another extension letter by re-filing everything. But I really have no idea, you really should get several consults with multiple experienced immigration lawyers to find the best path forward.

Edited by W199
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Wait and see meaning filing the I-290B, waiting for the outcome on that, and then filing the I-751 if needed. I argue we should file both at the same time (I don't need her to file the I-751 as I did that by myself in the past). The I-290B does not restore my status if it gets denied. It might prevent an NTA (which is 50/50) but it does not necessarily restore status unless it is granted. 

 

Her reservation with filing a fresh I-751 is that I am past the 90 day deadline since I am still filling with my spouse, and I would need to show good cause and extenuating circumstances so convincing an officer might be difficult. 

Posted (edited)
56 minutes ago, OfficialEJF said:

Wait and see meaning filing the I-290B, waiting for the outcome on that, and then filing the I-751 if needed. I argue we should file both at the same time (I don't need her to file the I-751 as I did that by myself in the past). The I-290B does not restore my status if it gets denied. It might prevent an NTA (which is 50/50) but it does not necessarily restore status unless it is granted. 

 

Her reservation with filing a fresh I-751 is that I am past the 90 day deadline since I am still filling with my spouse, and I would need to show good cause and extenuating circumstances so convincing an officer might be difficult. 

Also wanted to add, the the reason stated for the N-400 denial was NOT because the I-751 was denied. It was denied because "On XXX date, you were requested to appear for an initial interview on your naturalization application to determine your eligibility for naturalization, but did not appear as requested", clearly stated in the N-400 denial letter. In the failure to attend notice posted on my I-751 case, while it does state the I-751 Petitions to Remove Conditions case at the top of the notice, it stated in the body that "You were scheduled to appear for an interview on your Application for Naturalization on XXX Date. Our records indicate you failed to appear for this interview." So CIS seems to be treating this as a naturalization interview, AND stating that I did not attend, while previously communicating to that my naturalization interview had/has been rescheduled. It's so very confusing. I don't wish this on my worst enemy.

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Posted (edited)

So that's another thing, they've sent me a denial for the N-400 BUT the case in MYUSCIS still says pending, unlike the I-751 which clearly states CLOSED, and I have not received a new date yet. I keep checking to see if I will receive one but, since they sent a denial letter for the N-400, idk if any more updates will be made to the N-400 case. A user on Reddit stated that when he rescheduled his, he got a DEscheduling notice on both his cases, something I did not receive. So it looks like they put in and accepted the rescheduling request, but did not not DEschedule the original interview, so the adjudicating officer ultimately determined I did not show up to my original interview. 

 

My lawyer wants to file an N-336 case for the N-400 within the 30 day deadline. Can't believe I am about to spend close to $10K for this. 

Edited by OfficalE
Posted
4 hours ago, OfficalE said:

So that's another thing, they've sent me a denial for the N-400 BUT the case in MYUSCIS still says pending, unlike the I-751 which clearly states CLOSED, and I have not received a new date yet. I keep checking to see if I will receive one but, since they sent a denial letter for the N-400, idk if any more updates will be made to the N-400 case. A user on Reddit stated that when he rescheduled his, he got a DEscheduling notice on both his cases, something I did not receive. So it looks like they put in and accepted the rescheduling request, but did not not DEschedule the original interview, so the adjudicating officer ultimately determined I did not show up to my original interview. 

 

My lawyer wants to file an N-336 case for the N-400 within the 30 day deadline. Can't believe I am about to spend close to $10K for this. 


Could be a letter sent in error. We have seen that happen before. Not saying that's what it is for sure, but definitely not unheard of.

Question, is your attorney look to charge you a la carte for the appeals? 

Posted (edited)
On 10/30/2025 at 5:32 PM, Rekyrts said:


Could be a letter sent in error. We have seen that happen before. Not saying that's what it is for sure, but definitely not unheard of.

Question, is your attorney look to charge you a la carte for the appeals? 

Charged me $5K for the motion to reopen and attending the N-400 (before that was also denied). So far, I only paid $2,500 for the I-290B motion to reopen. Not sure if she will charge a separate fee for the N-336. I decided to file a fresh I-751 myself as well. 

Edited by OfficalE
Posted (edited)
On 10/30/2025 at 10:17 AM, OfficalE said:

@mindthegap I heard from the grapevine you would be a good resource to consult on this. Do you have any thoughts about filing an I-290b vs filing a fresh 751?

 

Sorry, was traveling overseas and didn't see this.

Cut your losses and refile a fresh I-751, and then a fresh N-400 which will hopefully speed it up.

 

Sure, an I290B may work in your favour, but it's an unkown time frame, has a very narrow specific criteria and application, and costs pretty much the same as a fresh I-751 off the bat (and thats before any lawyer to prepare the motion), which you ultimately may end up paying for the fresh I-751 anyway if the I-290B doesn't work.

The new I-751 is also a known quantity regarding absolutely still being in status vs the I290B which I can't comment on definitively in that regard. 

 

 

Take it from me, you are fighting a losing battle trying to get these clowns to admit they have made an error, or multiple errors. 

 

Just do the I-751 then an N-400. It'll be easier and cheaper in the long run and less stressful. 

Edited by mindthegap

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, mindthegap said:

 

Sorry, was traveling overseas and didn't see this.

Cut your losses and refile a fresh I-751, and then a fresh N-400 which will hopefully speed it up.

 

Sure, an I290B may work in your favour, but it's an unkown time frame, has a very narrow specific criteria and application, and costs pretty much the same as a fresh I-751 off the bat (and thats before any lawyer to prepare the motion), which you ultimately may end up paying for the fresh I-751 anyway if the I-290B doesn't work.

The new I-751 is also a known quantity regarding absolutely still being in status vs the I290B which I can't comment on definitively in that regard. 

 

 

Take it from me, you are fighting a losing battle trying to get these clowns to admit they have made an error, or multiple errors. 

 

Just do the I-751 then an N-400. It'll be easier and cheaper in the long run and less stressful. 

Hi, thanks! I ended up filing both an I-290B and a new I-751. Straightforward I-290Bs have been processed within 30 days, based on cases on Reddit and on here, so hoping I can get an answer soon. I'm based in NYC tho and that field office is extremely backlogged but hoping for the best.

 

For the N-400, I’m planning to file an N-336 since the government is required to schedule a hearing to review the denial. Because it was denied for “Failure to Appear,” and I have written confirmation that the interview was rescheduled, it should be a bit more straightforward. The hope is that my attorney can get them to reopen the I-751 during the hearing and adjudicate both cases together.

 

That said, you’re absolutely right about the challenge of getting USCIS to acknowledge an error — there’s still some risk, since they could argue I haven’t yet removed my conditions and therefore don’t currently qualify for naturalization.

Posted
On 11/4/2025 at 12:00 PM, OfficalE said:

Hi, thanks! I ended up filing both an I-290B and a new I-751. Straightforward I-290Bs have been processed within 30 days, based on cases on Reddit and on here, so hoping I can get an answer soon. I'm based in NYC tho and that field office is extremely backlogged but hoping for the best.

 

For the N-400, I’m planning to file an N-336 since the government is required to schedule a hearing to review the denial. Because it was denied for “Failure to Appear,” and I have written confirmation that the interview was rescheduled, it should be a bit more straightforward. The hope is that my attorney can get them to reopen the I-751 during the hearing and adjudicate both cases together.

 

That said, you’re absolutely right about the challenge of getting USCIS to acknowledge an error — there’s still some risk, since they could argue I haven’t yet removed my conditions and therefore don’t currently qualify for naturalization.

 

Well yes, thats exactly it.

I'll give you an example, of the many I have: my second to last denial, I had an N400 filed, and an interview scheduled. As per policy, they are supposed to interview and adjudicate any pending I-751 together at the same time, as a 'combo' interview. Instead, they denied the I-751 without interview (again), and I did the N-400 interview, tests (which I passed), and then denied the N-400 on the basis of my 'not being a permanent resident' (because they had denied the I-751).

Just a clucking clown show and one of many procedural errors they have made, contradicting both their own damn policies, and indeed, the law. 

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

 
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