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Hello, my mom is 84. I have documents from both PSA and the LCR that they don't have a record of her birth. The LCR said they need two affidavits of disinterested, unrelated persons to process the late registration of her birth. Unfortunately we don't know anyone my mom's age or older who could sign. Has anyone else done this process or have any advice?

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What has she used up to now?

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On 7/23/2025 at 7:45 PM, lumpia_yum said:

Hello, my mom is 84. I have documents from both PSA and the LCR that they don't have a record of her birth. The LCR said they need two affidavits of disinterested, unrelated persons to process the late registration of her birth. Unfortunately we don't know anyone my mom's age or older who could sign. Has anyone else done this process or have any advice?

 

My wife’s sisters and brothers finally got their mom a 'very very very late registered' birth certificate.  They recon she was born sometime in the late 1960's.  There are absolutely zero records of her existence in the world before the late 1990's and there are so many discrepancies about her birth date I am convinced no one really knows when she actually born and there is ZERO possibility anyone could ever find out a correct date.

 

Neither my wife or myself were directly involved getting her late registered but I asked my wife and she said it was basically a number of in-person visits to the LCR where they would keep rejecting stuff and asking for something more.  Eventually they got enough to make the LCR happy and they issued the late registered birth certificate. It was a maddening exercise in typical Philippine bureaucracy.  You just have to go back and forth with the LCR until they are satisfied.

 

In classic Philippine style when she finally got her birth certificate it had her name misspelled in a way that did not even correlate to any of the multiple misspellings on her other documents.


I asked about the affidavits and my wife said it was persons who I know are family friends.  I'm not sure they are technically legit as a "disinterested persons” but it satisfied the LCR.  They were younger than her so age of the affiants didn’t seem to be a problem. was not a problem.  Maybe they just need to be mature adults,  like 40+y/o or something.

 

 

On 7/24/2025 at 7:02 AM, Boiler said:

What has she used up to now?

 

From previous decades there are huge numbers of older Filipinos, possibly even millions, who were born at home and their parents never registered the birth.  Parents saw it as a hassle, it cost a small fee, and they just saw no useful purpose or need of having birth certificates for their children. Housewives, farmers and others living in the province who work for cash, very easily live their whole lives with no one ever asking about a silly birth certificate.  More recently they are getting more strict about it but there are still plenty of children out there that don't don't get registered until they are old enough enroll in school, or even later.

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On 7/25/2025 at 11:34 AM, top_secret said:

 

My wife’s sisters and brothers finally got their mom a 'very very very late registered' birth certificate.  They recon she was born sometime in the late 1960's.  There are absolutely zero records of her existence in the world before the late 1990's and there are so many discrepancies about her birth date I am convinced no one really knows when she actually born and there is ZERO possibility anyone could ever find out a correct date.

 

Neither my wife or myself were directly involved getting her late registered but I asked my wife and she said it was basically a number of in-person visits to the LCR where they would keep rejecting stuff and asking for something more.  Eventually they got enough to make the LCR happy and they issued the late registered birth certificate. It was a maddening exercise in typical Philippine bureaucracy.  You just have to go back and forth with the LCR until they are satisfied.

 

In classic Philippine style when she finally got her birth certificate it had her name misspelled in a way that did not even correlate to any of the multiple misspellings on her other documents.


I asked about the affidavits and my wife said it was persons who I know are family friends.  I'm not sure they are technically legit as a "disinterested persons” but it satisfied the LCR.  They were younger than her so age of the affiants didn’t seem to be a problem. was not a problem.  Maybe they just need to be mature adults,  like 40+y/o or something.

 

 

 

From previous decades there are huge numbers of older Filipinos, possibly even millions, who were born at home and their parents never registered the birth.  Parents saw it as a hassle, it cost a small fee, and they just saw no useful purpose or need of having birth certificates for their children. Housewives, farmers and others living in the province who work for cash, very easily live their whole lives with no one ever asking about a silly birth certificate.  More recently they are getting more strict about it but there are still plenty of children out there that don't don't get registered until they are old enough enroll in school, or even later.

For the affiants, what was the age difference between them and wife's mom? 10 year difference?

 

For the LCR, it seems the initial requirements are secondary documents, 2 affidavit from disinterested persons, and ID for older applicants. For your mother in law, what other documents did they ask for?

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3 hours ago, lumpia_yum said:

For the LCR, it seems the initial requirements are secondary documents, 2 affidavit from disinterested persons, and ID for older applicants. For your mother in law, what other documents did they ask for?

Every LCR may have differences. First step is to go there and find out.

 
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