I AM SO MAD!! This is total BS...

[elgringo 0]

Take a look at this. This is the sheet that they gave me.

Notice how it says that a conditional card is only "Proof of Legal Presence" and not "Proof of US Citizenship or Lawful Permanent Resident" (Which is total BS)

See how beside "Proof of Legal Presence" it has a check that says you can only get a CFD with it.....

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[YuAndDan 153]

Here in the state of Alabama they do not accept the greencard but at the State Troopers Post on Bankhead Highway in Birmingham and and one city in North Alabama and then Mobile I think for south Alabama (I did not keep the names of the other places since they were too far away).

His CR1 card was not valid at another other post in the state other than the three they use for intake and keeping track of aliens. This is per the Head of DMV in Montgomery Alabama.

Mary

Yup, I was told we had to go to another city to get a DL for James with his EAD. Although, they did say he can apply in our city with his greencard, do you know that that might be different since you seem to know about Alabama?

Alabama and Tennessee are two separate states, the DMV is a state department, so what one state does has nothing to do with how another one handles their driving privileges. There is no national standard with regards to how the states handle drivers licenses.

[Jasman0717 8]

Wow, that sucks!

[Miranda&James 8]

Here in the state of Alabama they do not accept the greencard but at the State Troopers Post on Bankhead Highway in Birmingham and and one city in North Alabama and then Mobile I think for south Alabama (I did not keep the names of the other places since they were too far away).

His CR1 card was not valid at another other post in the state other than the three they use for intake and keeping track of aliens. This is per the Head of DMV in Montgomery Alabama.

Mary

Yup, I was told we had to go to another city to get a DL for James with his EAD. Although, they did say he can apply in our city with his greencard, do you know that that might be different since you seem to know about Alabama?

Argh, that would mean Decatur for me. When I went to the DMV to get the booklet they told me that he could use his greencard just fine at the office in Huntsville. I guess we will have to call again. Thanks for the info!

Here in the state of Alabama they do not accept the greencard but at the State Troopers Post on Bankhead Highway in Birmingham and and one city in North Alabama and then Mobile I think for south Alabama (I did not keep the names of the other places since they were too far away).

His CR1 card was not valid at another other post in the state other than the three they use for intake and keeping track of aliens. This is per the Head of DMV in Montgomery Alabama.

Mary

Yup, I was told we had to go to another city to get a DL for James with his EAD. Although, they did say he can apply in our city with his greencard, do you know that that might be different since you seem to know about Alabama?

Alabama and Tennessee are two separate states, the DMV is a state department, so what one state does has nothing to do with how another one handles their driving privileges. There is no national standard with regards to how the states handle drivers licenses.

If you'll look in the quote in Mary's post you will see that that post was in response to a question I asked about Alabama, not to the OP.

Edited August 9, 2007 by Miranda&James

[elgringo 0]

Wait I don't understand, if A Conditional Green Card is considered "Proof of Legal Presence" by TN, then why didn't they give your wife a Drivers License?

Because "Proof of Legal Presence" and "Proof of US Citizenship or LPR Status" are 2 different things. In TN you can get a CFD if you are just here on a tourist visa. It just lets you legally drive, but cant be used as a legal state ID.

I don't get this comment. If someone has a passport with valid visa and I-94, then they can get a Drivers License. So why is that "a load of #######"?

Again, not in TN they cant. Here if you only have a passport and an I-94 you can just get a CFD, not a real driver's license that can be used as an official ID.

Sorry but I still think you're dealing with people who don't understand the rules. Your post has just confused me though!

I think you are confused on the difference between a driver's license and a CFD.

[YuAndDan 153]

Take a look at this. This is the sheet that they gave me.

Notice how it says that a conditional card is only "Proof of Legal Presence" and not "Proof of US Citizenship or Lawful Permanent Resident" (Which is total BS)

See how beside "Proof of Legal Presence" it has a check that says you can only get a CFD with it.....

Looks like they don't know how to read the sheet. Proof of Legal Presence is NOT needed for DL, the green-card IS.

Again visit the DMV in a larger city, and don't keep fighting moronic block heads.

Edited August 9, 2007 by YuAndDan

[Allie&Leo 0]

Hola ElGringo,

Nice to see another Mexico VJ member in TN. I am in Nashville. I am still waiting to get my husband's Temp green card. He does already have his Certificate of Driving license. I was hoping when we got his green card soon we could go switch it for actual drivers license. Keep me posted on what you find out.

P.S. He does show his CFD when carded at restaurants. No one has questioned it. Although we realize not a proof of ID -just driving purposes only. Now he also has his EAD card so that should help. However when traveling throughout country on airlines we bring his passport. It is a inconvenience though not to have a real drivers license.

Please keep me posted.

Allie

[elgringo 0]

Looks like they don't know how to read the sheet. Proof of Legal Presence is NOT needed for DL, the green-card IS.

Again visit the DMV in a larger city, and don't keep fighting moronic block heads.

Yes, but the green card that my wife has is the conditional resident alien card. And according to this sheet, the only thing she can get with that is a CFD.

She cant get a real license because as you can see, a "real" I-551 is required for that.

Edited August 9, 2007 by elgringo

[Marilyn. 340]

Looks like they don't know how to read the sheet. Proof of Legal Presence is NOT needed for DL, the green-card IS.

Again visit the DMV in a larger city, and don't keep fighting moronic block heads.

Yes, but the green card that my wife has is the conditional resident alien card. And according to this sheet, the only thing she can get with that is a CFD.

She cant get a real license because as you can see, a "real" I-551 is required for that.

a 2 year card is real...

but I guess they don't see it that way...

[elgringo 0]

Hola ElGringo,

Nice to see another Mexico VJ member in TN. I am in Nashville. I am still waiting to get my husband's Temp green card. He does already have his Certificate of Driving license. I was hoping when we got his green card soon we could go switch it for actual drivers license. Keep me posted on what you find out.

Up until today I thought so too. I looked at the driver's manual and on the website and it never made any distinction at all between a I-551 and a conditional I-551. The first time I heard about it was today when my wife's DL came out of the machine and it was a CFD. I got pretty upset about it and the woman went and got her supervisor who handed me the paper that I've uploaded here.

a 2 year card is real...

but I guess they don't see it that way...

Yes, in TN they dont see it that way. They see it as being the same as an EAD, or worse, the same as just having a passport and I-94.....

[Allie&Leo 0]

If my husband has any luck in Nashville in the upcoming months I will let you know.

However I'm not liking your experience today and what you found out.

Irritates me just as much.

Allie

[Marilyn. 340]

Hola ElGringo,

Nice to see another Mexico VJ member in TN. I am in Nashville. I am still waiting to get my husband's Temp green card. He does already have his Certificate of Driving license. I was hoping when we got his green card soon we could go switch it for actual drivers license. Keep me posted on what you find out.

Up until today I thought so too. I looked at the driver's manual and on the website and it never made any distinction at all between a I-551 and a conditional I-551. The first time I heard about it was today when my wife's DL came out of the machine and it was a CFD. I got pretty upset about it and the woman went and got her supervisor who handed me the paper that I've uploaded here.

a 2 year card is real...

but I guess they don't see it that way...

Yes, in TN they dont see it that way. They see it as being the same as an EAD, or worse, the same as just having a passport and I-94.....

it is weird because it totally contradicts whet it says on their site....

like people have suggested I would print off the info from the site and if possible take it and go to a different DMV...

Edited August 9, 2007 by MarilynP

[elgringo 0]

If my husband has any luck in Nashville in the upcoming months I will let you know.

However I'm not liking your experience today and what you found out.

Irritates me just as much.

Allie

Yea, I think I'm about to write an email to my state senator and rep and ask them why TN feels the need to discriminate against valid permanent resident holders in the issuing of state driver's licenses.

What they should do is issue a valid driver's license but set it to expire at the same time the conditional green card expires. That would be a more rational thing to do than to say that they are ineligible for a driver's license.

Its almost enough to make me want to call a lawyer. Supposedly a permanent resident card gives a person the right to do EVERYTHING a citizen can do, except vote. So how can they discriminate against them in the issuing of driver's licenses?

[elgringo 0]

it is weird because it totally contradicts whet it says on their site....

like people have suggested I would print off the info from the site and if possible take it and go to a different DMV...

I dont think it totally contradicts what it says on their site. Their site just doesnt tell the whole story. (Which it should.)

I bet that if I print that off the internet and take it to another DMV, they'd say that yes, an I-551 is proof of LPR status, but that a "Conditional" I-551 is not. Which is BS, but thats what the DL laws in TN seem to say. It seems to me that I'd probably have more luck petitioning my elected representatives for a change in the laws than I would have arguing with people in the DMV over what the current laws say....

[Dr_LHA 3]

I think you are confused on the difference between a driver's license and a CFD.

Fair enough, time to leave TN I think. Why don't they just give out Drivers Licenses instead of this "CFD" thing? F***ing retarded if you ask me. Sounds like if I lived there I wouldn't have been able to get a Drivers license for the almost 8 years I was present here on a visa.