I-751 Questions

[VisaVisaVisaVisa 2]

59 minutes ago, OldUser said:

I think at least 80% of ROC interviews are waived.

 

They don't get waived if:

- Randomly selected

- Not enough evidence submitted

- They suspect fraud

 

Also, if one applies for N-400 while I-751 is pending the chances of ROC interview increases as far as I can tell.

Curious.. why would they suspect fraud after initially approving the conditional GC?

[OldUser 5,093]

19 minutes ago, VisaVisaVisaVisa said:

Curious.. why would they suspect fraud after initially approving the conditional GC?

They can suspect fraud at any stage, even at naturalization. Just because somebody got away the first time, doesn't mean isn't going to get caught further in the process.

 

Conditional is given for a reason. While initial GC can be approved with smaller set of evidence such as photos together, marriage certificate etc, the ROC requires proving the marriage is bonafide and develops over the time. As the normal marriage would.

 

At this stage, if couple lives apart, or they don't share finances - those are red flags that could indicate fraud. E.g. marriage looked fine to USCIS at the beginning, but doesn't look right anymore at ROC stage. There's been instances somebody got 2 year GC, immediately moved out and had a kid with a different person. Wouldn't that raise suspicion about the whole marriage and whether it was a scheme for becoming a LPR?

 

The immigration system is built to recheck immigrant at multiple stages.

 

Sometimes, USCIS can issue GC, US passport etc in error too. I'm not sure if you heard the story of a son of Iranian diplomat who has a US passport for his entire life, only to discover many decades later he was given it in error, when passport renewal failed. If US government acted on the premise "we checked the guy before, it's fine", this would never get discovered.

Edited January 23 by OldUser

[JKLSemicolon 331]

On 1/18/2024 at 10:59 AM, VisaVisaVisaVisa said:

Yes i meant GC holder uscis acct number. Optional?

It’s strange, but having a USCIS online account does not necessarily mean you have a USCIS online account number (which is usually assigned by USCIS via a mailed notice).

 

In our case, my wife has an account but still left Part 1, question 9 on the I-751 form blank.

[JKLSemicolon 331]

On 1/23/2024 at 7:25 AM, VisaVisaVisaVisa said:

How many of your had the ROC interview waived? 

I understand you’re curious and @OldUser has tried to provide some answers to your questions but at this stage I would keep it simple and just focus more on gathering as much quality evidence as possible and make sure you are following the form instructions to the letter. In the end that is the part under your control and will be in your best interest later on, interview or no interview.

[VisaVisaVisaVisa 2]

On 1/24/2024 at 4:56 PM, JKLSemicolon said:

I understand you’re curious and @OldUser has tried to provide some answers to your questions but at this stage I would keep it simple and just focus more on gathering as much quality evidence as possible and make sure you are following the form instructions to the letter. In the end that is the part under your control and will be in your best interest later on, interview or no interview.

Thanks. I know there has a to be good list of evidence guidance flowing around the forum and I am too unfamiliar with this. Can someone guide me and find it for me? Thanks

[VisaVisaVisaVisa 2]

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I'm just about ready to ship out my complete package. 
 

could someone please advise on how to properly assemble, label, order the package in a way that they've requested? 

[GeneO 10]

On 1/23/2024 at 5:17 PM, VisaVisaVisaVisa said:

Curious.. why would they suspect fraud after initially approving the conditional GC?

Looking at the stats, thankfully it appears most fraud cases seem to be weeded out by the 130/485 phase. They only deny under 3% of all 751 cases so it seems the system works pretty well to catch most of it in the early stages of the game. I have a feeling VAWA either currently is or is about to become the hot spot for a major focus on fraudulent cases, I see far too many attorneys online have started advertising they can get people a green card through VAWA for nearly any reason, one has a youtube show that seems to focus heavily on it as well. Its awful because it makes it so much harder for the people who are genuine victims of abuse. 

[Crazy Cat 39,658]

26 minutes ago, GeneO said:

They only deny under 3% of all 751 cases so it seems the system works pretty well to catch most of it in the early stages of the game.

I agree 100%.  But, if you consider how many I-751s actually go to court and win, I think the final denial rate is less than 1%.  No need for I-751s, imho.

Edited February 18 by Crazy Cat

[GeneO 10]

11 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

I agree 100%.  But, if you consider how many I-751s actually go to court and win, I think the final denial rate is less than 1%.  No need for I-751s, imho.

Good point. You are right, the true number is probably under 1%.